Armed Robots In Iraq

[quote]Lorisco wrote:
lixy wrote:
Sloth wrote:
That’s cool. A robot can’t panic out of fear for it’s life. And, I don’t see soldiers losing their cool after a robot rolls over a mine, etc. Which is all good for civilians. Seems it’s purpose is to make everyone safer.

Somehow, I’m uncomfortable with the making killing a banal thing. It’s gonna turn into a very realistic first person shooter. It sure the hell out of a Wii or anything of the sort. Kids may join just for that exhilarating feel.

If this becomes standard – and it will – there’s little to deter you from invading every country that’s too weak to strike back (read 90% of the world).

And what is the difference between shooting robots and a bomber pilot pressing a button at 10,000 feet and taking out an entire city? War has been dehumanized since we got the bomb.

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They thought the invention of the sling and the bow dehumanized war. Unless you are slitting your enemies throut and feeling the blood wash on your hands youare not getting the full experience.

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
They thought the invention of the sling and the bow dehumanized war. Unless you are slitting your enemies throut and feeling the blood wash on your hands youare not getting the full experience.[/quote]

Since you mention it, many Muslim scholars forbade the use of the catapult (and hence the subsequent modern bombs) in warfare. The argument was that anything that increases the likelihood of hurting a lot of non-combatants should be avoided.

I never heard anybody make that argument about the the sling and bow though. I don’t see how you can massacre a village “accidentally” using those.

[quote]lixy wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
They thought the invention of the sling and the bow dehumanized war. Unless you are slitting your enemies throat and feeling the blood wash on your hands you are not getting the full experience.

Since you mention it, many Muslim scholars forbade the use of the catapult (and hence the subsequent modern bombs) in warfare. The argument was that anything that increases the likelihood of hurting a lot of non-combatants should be avoided.

I never heard anybody make that argument about the the sling and bow though. I don’t see how you can massacre a village “accidentally” using those.[/quote]

Your fellows are certainly doing a fine job massacring villages now with car bombs, suicide bombers and more traditional weapons. You must be proud.

[quote]lixy wrote:
hedo wrote:
The hellfire is a missle not a bomb. It isn’t dropped on a target it is fired at it.

I’ll have you know that that particular definition of a bomb (i.e: airdropped, unpowered explosive weapons) is nothing more than military jargon. Outside of that circle, a missile still falls under the “bomb” category.

I shouldn’t have used the term “dropped” though.

It is apparent your knowledge of most subjects is only “Wikpedia Deep” at best.

Yeah, those silly editors failed to mention the Hellfire was a missile. Oh wait…

You calling anyone an imbecile is ironic.

I called Rainjack an imbecile because he implied that I’m OK with car bombs and airplane hijacks.

The next generation will be much more deadly.

Really? I was under the impression that the next generation was supposed to launch roses and violets? Oh well…[/quote]

A missle and a bomb are two different things. The words Bomb and Missle are actually correctly referred to as “terminology” inside the military. Jargon would be a slang word or phrase such as “Jihad Johnny annihilator” or an “NYFD payback”. The circle you refer to must be very small since the word bomb and missle are never used interchangeably in common English useage.

The next generation will be autonomous. Can’t wait. Maybe two years.

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Your fellows are certainly doing a fine job massacring villages now with car bombs, suicide bombers and more traditional weapons. You must be proud.[/quote]

They’re not Muslims in my book.

Here’s a question for you: Were there many car bombs prior to your invasion?

[quote]lixy wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Your fellows are certainly doing a fine job massacring villages now with car bombs, suicide bombers and more traditional weapons. You must be proud.

They’re not Muslims in my book.

Here’s a question for you: Were there many car bombs prior to your invasion?[/quote]

Several in Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Tanzania, Kenya, Bali, Turkey, Morocco, Jordan, did I miss any?

[quote]lixy wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Your fellows are certainly doing a fine job massacring villages now with car bombs, suicide bombers and more traditional weapons. You must be proud.

They’re not Muslims in my book.

Here’s a question for you: Were there many car bombs prior to your invasion?[/quote]

Nooo, the US brought the car bombs with them to Iraq and gave them to the terrorists just to make it fair!

Actually, prior to our invasion Shaddam would just take women, children, old men (basically anyone who was not his religion or that he did not like) and had them shot. I guess bullets were cheaper than car bombs.

[quote]Gkhan wrote:
lixy wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Your fellows are certainly doing a fine job massacring villages now with car bombs, suicide bombers and more traditional weapons. You must be proud.

They’re not Muslims in my book.

Here’s a question for you: Were there many car bombs prior to your invasion?

Several in Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Tanzania, Kenya, Bali, Turkey, Morocco, Jordan, did I miss any?

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And one big assed boat bomb in Yemen. But their shared hatred of the jews makes it okay for lixy to overlook any act of aggression on her allies’ part.

Lixy is a delusional, jew-hating, pro-terrorist. His/her posts define him/her every time he/she posts.

[quote]lixy wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Your fellows are certainly doing a fine job massacring villages now with car bombs, suicide bombers and more traditional weapons. You must be proud.

They’re not Muslims in my book.
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Since you claim to be a socialist libertarian muslim I suspect you are an apostate in their book. Perhaps you can go to Iraq/Philippines/Palestine/Pakistan…and show them the error of their ways.

[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Several in Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Tanzania, Kenya, Bali, Turkey, Morocco, Jordan, did I miss any [/quote]

Not all car bombs, but bombs nonetheless. Anyway, I was referring to Iraq (the topic of the thread, remember?).

[quote]Lorisco wrote:
Nooo, the US brought the car bombs with them to Iraq and gave them to the terrorists just to make it fair! [/quote]

It’s a joke to you (since you don’t suffer the consequences) but it was ultimately the US invasion that brought terrorists to Iraq.

I don’t see why a self-professed secular would shoot people based on religion alone. Could you explain?

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Since you claim to be a socialist libertarian muslim I suspect you are an apostate in their book. Perhaps you can go to Iraq/Philippines/Palestine/Pakistan…and show them the error of their ways.[/quote]

You haven’t been paying much attention now have you?

They (Al-Qaeda, Takfirists, etc…) consider 99% of Muslims apostates.

[quote]lixy wrote:
Not all car bombs, but bombs nonetheless. Anyway, I was referring to Iraq (the topic of the thread, remember?).
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Yes, I understand. But the car bomb is not unique to Iraq and predates the war by almost 2 decades.

[quote]lixy wrote:

I don’t see why a self-professed secular would shoot people based on religion alone. Could you explain?[/quote]

what’s there to explain? People have been killing one another because of religion for centuries. Saddam killed Shia because they are a majority in Iraq and a threat to his regime. As if you didn’t already know this.

[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Yes, I understand. But the car bomb is not unique to Iraq and predates the war by almost 2 decades.[/quote]

Two decades? More like a century.

But that’s besides the point which was that there were no car bombing in Iraq prior to the invasion. Can we agree on that?

[quote]Gkhan wrote:
what’s there to explain? People have been killing one another because of religion for centuries. Saddam killed Shia because they are a majority in Iraq and a threat to his regime. As if you didn’t already know this.[/quote]

If you read Lorisco’s post, you can probably see that in his mind, Saddam was killing people because of their religion. To the best of my knowledge (and apparently yours as well), such things didn’t happen under his rule. That’s the reason I asked him nicely to explain his position. Now, go read Lorisco’s post more carefully.

[quote]pookie wrote:
Apparently, they had a lot of problems getting the robots to work in Iraq.

They kept getting the message:

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[b]Illegal War Error.

[A]bort, [R]etry, [F]ail?[/b][/center]

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Aren’t you ever discouraged that so many of your great jokes just fly by, wasted?

[quote]billy martin wrote:
EXCELLENT!!! Hurry up and develope the terminators.[/quote]

What do you mean? T-1 is already here.

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Aren’t you ever discouraged that so many of your great jokes just fly by, wasted?[/quote]

I prefer to see it as having had the final word.

I’m pretty good as deceiving myself convincingly.

As an added bonus, it keeps you away from the coveted Denis Leary of T-Nation plaque I had made and put on my wall. Shipping to Japan is expensive, you know.

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
pookie wrote:
Apparently, they had a lot of problems getting the robots to work in Iraq.

They kept getting the message:

[center]
[b]Illegal War Error.

[A]bort, [R]etry, [F]ail?[/b][/center]

Aren’t you ever discouraged that so many of your great jokes just fly by, wasted?[/quote]

Oh now, come come…we all get it. His humor is not wasted, just minimal.