[quote]John S. wrote:
[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:
If only there was a good way to screen for and treat these kinds of psychopaths before they become violent.[/quote]
He lived with his parents, they should have seen something. So should anyone who saw his youtube video’s before this incident.[/quote]
The fact that, so far of what I have seen, he is incoherent would tell me that he has problems.
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]John S. wrote:
[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:
If only there was a good way to screen for and treat these kinds of psychopaths before they become violent.[/quote]
He lived with his parents, they should have seen something. So should anyone who saw his youtube video’s before this incident.[/quote]
The fact that, so far of what I have seen, he is incoherent would tell me that he has problems.[/quote]
He also got kicked out of school for shouting incoherent thoughts and was told he could not come back till he had an psych evaluation done.
http://nation.foxnews.com/jared-loughner/2011/01/09/arizona-assassin-seriously-disturbed-history
Sounds like he fell through the cracks somehow or another. Sad for everyone involved.
This video sounds like a rant from someone in an institution. The talking about him feeling like he is sleepwalking sounds like he was on ritalin, this video makes me want to know about his medical history.
Holy crap, how did he never see a therapist or psychiatrist…
This is even crazier.
This is the crazist one.
Where the fuck where the parents.
This is his first video I believe.
This one will make your blood boil, any ties to the tea party can stop here.
Interview with the father of the 9 yr old girl that died. I cried listening to it.
[quote]John S. wrote:
This is his first video I believe.
This one will make your blood boil, any ties to the tea party can stop here.[/quote]
Yeah, that guy is a total nut job and you’re right many people are going to use this for political spin. After looking at those videos you posted, I’d have to imagine that anything could have set this young man off. I’ve read of people who knew him stating that he was “unstable”. Unstable? This kid is stark raving bat shit fucking crazy!!!
Yeah… there’s nothing political about who’s a total nutjob and who isn’t. I wonder if his defense in court will pull the crazy card.
[quote]MickD wrote:
[quote]John S. wrote:
This is his first video I believe.
This one will make your blood boil, any ties to the tea party can stop here.[/quote]
Yeah, that guy is a total nut job and you’re right many people are going to use this for political spin. After looking at those videos you posted, I’d have to imagine that anything could have set this young man off. I’ve read of people who knew him stating that he was “unstable”. Unstable? This kid is stark raving bat shit fucking crazy!!!
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He saw a bird on his shoulder, posted this on youtube and yet his parents didn’t think anything was up.
It really makes my blood boil when people to to politicize something before they check the facts, or before facts come in.
[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:
Yeah… there’s nothing political about who’s a total nutjob and who isn’t. I wonder if his defense in court will pull the crazy card. [/quote]
If they don’t then they aren’t doing their jobs. I’m not a lawyer, but if I was I would. I’m American and believe that all people are allowed a fair trail, but… Man, it’s hard to think of what this lunatic did and not want justice to be swift and harsh.
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
Why? How can you (or anyone else) act like the absolute hatred of left vs right wing has nothing at all to do with this? Didn’t Palin recently release an ad with gunsights on a bunch of democratic districts, including this very one?
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Palin actually did that?
Oh and the guy just seems like he got his ideas from anywhere and everywhere. Neither left or right, no matter how either side wishes he was the opposite
[quote]Bambi wrote:
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
Why? How can you (or anyone else) act like the absolute hatred of left vs right wing has nothing at all to do with this? Didn’t Palin recently release an ad with gunsights on a bunch of democratic districts, including this very one?
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Palin actually did that?
Oh and the guy just seems like he got his ideas from anywhere and everywhere. Neither left or right, no matter how either side wishes he was the opposite[/quote]
The point is that the rhetoric coming from right-wing pundits with extremely large audiences has been increasingly violent since President Obama was elected. There is no corollary on the left. There are and have always been extreme elements on the fringes of both parties, but paranoia and themes of anti-government violence have not been part of the mainstream discussion in at least a hundred years.
The violently antagonistic atmosphere of mainstream politics in our country is the fault of a collection of players: the Tea Party organizers and funders, pundits like Beck and Limbaugh, and a number of politicians (mainly governors and junior senators) who are playing to the more extreme elements.
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[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]bigflamer wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]JoeGood wrote:
Politics in the US have been hijacked by rightwing nutjobs and leftwing nutjobs. All discourse has been reduced to those two sides yelling at each. Unless this changes we are going to see more of this, not less.[/quote]
I will agree there are left wing nut jobs , but they are not near as main stream as the right wing nuts are .The president is a Nazi , Socialist , Gay,Muslim,a bad Christian not born in America. I am sure I could go on
A double standard I have not heard any one make would be John Boenher crying . Could you imagine if Nancy Pelosi cried 1 time . [/quote]
How’s the kool aid, pittbull?
Remember when Bush was a nazi, anti christ, symbolism of pure evil, etc. Remeber when the left was writing books on the killing of Bush? Nope, no double standards here…
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Please post the you tubes of Brian Williams or Katie Couric calling Bush a Nazi, socialist or what ever . I can post you several main stream FAUX personalities stirring the pot of nut jobery[/quote]
You have to ask yourself this question; do Brian Williams and Katie Couric have news shows, or do they have entertainment opinion shows? It’s an important distinction that you really should’ve been able to make already. Perhaps you could answer the questions I’ve already presented to SkyNett. Colbert and Stewart have said some across the board crazy and funny shit while they’ve skewered political figures on the right, but guess what? They have politically motivated comedy shows! Who gives a flying fuck? I would expect that, and so should you.
Bottom line here is this; the left will try to spin this into everything from a gun control issue, to the same lame argument that you’re making about prominent right wing commentators “fanning the flames of radicalism”. Please stop pretending that the right has a monopoly on political influence through media. Personally, I’m a big fan of free speech, and not looking to diminish it in any way. We’re a nation of big boys and girls, we can handle it.
And yes, even in the case where a movie was made about the assassination of a sitting president, I would support that film makers right to do so. Even if it was in bad taste. The interesting point to ponder in that case, was not the making of the movie, but the selective criticism (or lack thereof) from the left. If that same movie was made today, about our current president, you could only imagine the fervor that would erupt from the left and the MSM.
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That is what the left believes is the best course of action , I personally disagree with it. I also hold the Rhetoric the Tea party , Glen Beck , Rush Limpdick Sarah Palin and FAUX news spew
responsible for inciting this nut job.I also think there are others out there just as crazy
Sarah Palin pulled down her crosshairs ad within minutes of this news being reported, but the foul cunt won’t come out and say a damned thing about it.
You all can argue the politics of this shit, but most of the evidence points toward the hateful attitude of the right, Teabaggers, etc promoting violence against the left.
Even Joe Scarborough said the right needs stop with the hateful violent rhetoric.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Sarah Palin pulled down her crosshairs ad within minutes of this news being reported, but the foul cunt won’t come out and say a damned thing about it.
You all can argue the politics of this shit, but most of the evidence points toward the hateful attitude of the right, Teabaggers, etc promoting violence against the left.
Even Joe Scarborough said the right needs stop with the hateful violent rhetoric.[/quote]You can’t be serious with this. Really.
The left not calling for violence, wow. OK? keep smokin’
Riots and such are violence.
Everyone is an individual and makes their own choices. The one responsible is the one who pulled the trigger. And as it appears he should have been placed in a mental ward well before this happened.
To keep blaming the right or the left is only going to cause further discourse and further separation. Plus you sound idiotic except to a few within your circle.
I feel very badly for the family of the 9 year old.