Why couldn’t they just kill this kid, now we have to pay for him to stay on Death Row forever.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]bigflamer wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]JoeGood wrote:
Politics in the US have been hijacked by rightwing nutjobs and leftwing nutjobs. All discourse has been reduced to those two sides yelling at each. Unless this changes we are going to see more of this, not less.[/quote]
I will agree there are left wing nut jobs , but they are not near as main stream as the right wing nuts are .The president is a Nazi , Socialist , Gay,Muslim,a bad Christian not born in America. I am sure I could go on
A double standard I have not heard any one make would be John Boenher crying . Could you imagine if Nancy Pelosi cried 1 time . [/quote]
How’s the kool aid, pittbull?
Remember when Bush was a nazi, anti christ, symbolism of pure evil, etc. Remeber when the left was writing books on the killing of Bush? Nope, no double standards here…
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Please post the you tubes of Brian Williams or Katie Couric calling Bush a Nazi, socialist or what ever . I can post you several main stream FAUX personalities stirring the pot of nut jobery[/quote]
LOL… don’t pigeon-hole the answer. You know Matthews, Obermann and Madcow have done all that. Tell me the last time Brtt Beir from FOX called the Left Nazis, Muslims, Communists???
Oh…“MATT DAAAAAAAAAMON!”
[quote]Rockscar wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]bigflamer wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]JoeGood wrote:
Politics in the US have been hijacked by rightwing nutjobs and leftwing nutjobs. All discourse has been reduced to those two sides yelling at each. Unless this changes we are going to see more of this, not less.[/quote]
I will agree there are left wing nut jobs , but they are not near as main stream as the right wing nuts are .The president is a Nazi , Socialist , Gay,Muslim,a bad Christian not born in America. I am sure I could go on
A double standard I have not heard any one make would be John Boenher crying . Could you imagine if Nancy Pelosi cried 1 time . [/quote]
How’s the kool aid, pittbull?
Remember when Bush was a nazi, anti christ, symbolism of pure evil, etc. Remeber when the left was writing books on the killing of Bush? Nope, no double standards here…
[/quote]
Please post the you tubes of Brian Williams or Katie Couric calling Bush a Nazi, socialist or what ever . I can post you several main stream FAUX personalities stirring the pot of nut jobery[/quote]
LOL… don’t pigeon-hole the answer. You know Matthews, Obermann and Madcow have done all that. Tell me the last time Brtt Beir from FOX called the Left Nazis, Muslims, Communists???
Oh…“MATT DAAAAAAAAAMON!”[/quote]
and mediamatters - which i dont view as a legit news source, but some people here seem to think they are.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]JoeGood wrote:
Politics in the US have been hijacked by rightwing nutjobs and leftwing nutjobs. All discourse has been reduced to those two sides yelling at each. Unless this changes we are going to see more of this, not less.[/quote]
I will agree there are left wing nut jobs , but they are not near as main stream as the right wing nuts are .The president is a Nazi , Socialist , Gay,Muslim,a bad Christian not born in America. I am sure I could go on
A double standard I have not heard any one make would be John Boenher crying . Could you imagine if Nancy Pelosi cried 1 time . [/quote]
you have got to be kidding me with this drivel… you mean bush wasnt hitler this or the Antichrist that?
and like others have said, should politics not take a back seat when A 9 YEAR OLD HAS BEEN KILLED?
[quote]Rockscar wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]bigflamer wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]JoeGood wrote:
Politics in the US have been hijacked by rightwing nutjobs and leftwing nutjobs. All discourse has been reduced to those two sides yelling at each. Unless this changes we are going to see more of this, not less.[/quote]
I will agree there are left wing nut jobs , but they are not near as main stream as the right wing nuts are .The president is a Nazi , Socialist , Gay,Muslim,a bad Christian not born in America. I am sure I could go on
A double standard I have not heard any one make would be John Boenher crying . Could you imagine if Nancy Pelosi cried 1 time . [/quote]
How’s the kool aid, pittbull?
Remember when Bush was a nazi, anti christ, symbolism of pure evil, etc. Remeber when the left was writing books on the killing of Bush? Nope, no double standards here…
[/quote]
Please post the you tubes of Brian Williams or Katie Couric calling Bush a Nazi, socialist or what ever . I can post you several main stream FAUX personalities stirring the pot of nut jobery[/quote]
LOL… don’t pigeon-hole the answer. You know Matthews, Obermann and Madcow have done all that. Tell me the last time Brtt Beir from FOX called the Left Nazis, Muslims, Communists???
Oh…“MATT DAAAAAAAAAMON!”[/quote]
I asked please post it, I want to see these guys stirring the pot of nut jobery
Save your breath guys - The left is totally blind. I’m waiting for Nancy Pelosi or one of the goons on the left to start blaming Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh for this. There is no end to their vile hatred.
But, why hasn’t it been touted that the killer was an atheist? From what I’ve read he was a very staunch atheist. Does anyone think that MSNBC or any of the other mainstream liberal media outlets will be talking about this?
Not a chance.
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
[quote]John S. wrote:
Can’t any of you let politics go for a second and show sympathy for a senseless act of violence? (Both Republicans and Democrats where killed he was a crazy guy and like others have said watch his youtube video’s, he was all over the place in his talks.)[/quote]
Why? How can you (or anyone else) act like the absolute hatred of left vs right wing has nothing at all to do with this? Didn’t Palin recently release an ad with gunsights on a bunch of democratic districts, including this very one?
I couldn’t give a fuck about the left or the right, but it seems obvious to me that the absolutely appalling behavior of right and left wing pundits leads DIRECTLY to a tragedy like this. No one is trying to turn it into some kind of left/right debate - only pointing out what the OBVIOUS cause of something like this is.
If we do not address this, and start making people accountable for the incendiary hate speech that flows from both sides on a fucking DAILY BASIS…well lets just say you can expect a lot more of this sick shit.
A 9 year old girl died - who gives a fuck about the goddamned politics? But this country needs to get its collective head out of its collective ass and start seeing the consequences of this ridiculous behavior…[/quote]
Switch to decaff dude…
I think you are shooting flies with an elephant gun here. The kid was beyond disturbed, this isn’t about speech from the left or right. He checked out of reality and flew off the handle. Unbelievably horrible yes, but this kid’s filter was either broken or missing. He lost a grip on what is right and wrong. Hate is a natural human emotion by the way, acting on it is a whole other Oprah.
[quote]siouxperman wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]siouxperman wrote:
edit: they also need to figure out where this guy got the gun.[/quote]
If we walk away with one lesson let it be that criminals always find a way to get a gun. Stricter gun control laws will only keep guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens. [/quote]
I agree. I tried not to frame it in the context of stricter gun control. More wondering if it was provided to him, or if it was improperly stored at home. Reports were that he lived with his parents.[/quote]
You agree?
You don’t want to know if he bought the gun legally?
Strange.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
Save your breath guys - The left is totally blind. I’m waiting for Nancy Pelosi or one of the goons on the left to start blaming Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh for this. There is no end to their vile hatred.
But, why hasn’t it been touted that the killer was an atheist? From what I’ve read he was a very staunch atheist. Does anyone think that MSNBC or any of the other mainstream liberal media outlets will be talking about this?
Not a chance.[/quote]
Vile hatred? Jesus, relax man. Again, all current evidence points to him being completely nuts. Just opining here, but from his videos it looks like he’s got a thought disorder. I’m sure what he wrote makes complete sense to him, and I’ll bet he can’t see why it wouldn’t make sense to someone else either. dude’s a psycho. what’s the atheism got to do with it? a christian has never killed anyone?
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
[quote]John S. wrote:
List of his favorite books from his youtube channel.
Animal Farm, Brave New World, The Wizard Of OZ, Aesop Fables, The Odyssey, Alice Adventures Into Wonderland, Fahrenheit 451, Peter Pan, To Kill A Mockingbird, We The Living, Phantom Toll Booth, One Flew Over The Cuckoo�?�¢??s Nest, Pulp,Through The Looking Glass, The Communist Manifesto, Siddhartha, The Old Man And The Sea, Gulliver�?�¢??s Travels, Mein Kampf, The Republic, and Meno[/quote]
Looks like his list is missing Catcher in the Rye.[/quote]
I chuckled.
[quote]Da Man reloaded wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]JoeGood wrote:
Politics in the US have been hijacked by rightwing nutjobs and leftwing nutjobs. All discourse has been reduced to those two sides yelling at each. Unless this changes we are going to see more of this, not less.[/quote]
I will agree there are left wing nut jobs , but they are not near as main stream as the right wing nuts are .The president is a Nazi , Socialist , Gay,Muslim,a bad Christian not born in America. I am sure I could go on
A double standard I have not heard any one make would be John Boenher crying . Could you imagine if Nancy Pelosi cried 1 time . [/quote]
you have got to be kidding me with this drivel… you mean bush wasnt hitler this or the Antichrist that?
and like others have said, should politics not take a back seat when A 9 YEAR OLD HAS BEEN KILLED?[/quote]
I am not talking about any of the victims , I am speaking about the nut jobs and those that incite the nut jobs . Pelosi has been criticized for being effective at her job , IMO Mr Crybaby has saome big shoes to fill.
I was asking anybody show me a you tube with main stream media claiming Bush was anything other than . I will give you a hint I would try Stewart or Colbert .
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
[quote]John S. wrote:
Can’t any of you let politics go for a second and show sympathy for a senseless act of violence? (Both Republicans and Democrats where killed he was a crazy guy and like others have said watch his youtube video’s, he was all over the place in his talks.)[/quote]
Why? How can you (or anyone else) act like the absolute hatred of left vs right wing has nothing at all to do with this? Didn’t Palin recently release an ad with gunsights on a bunch of democratic districts, including this very one?
I couldn’t give a fuck about the left or the right, but it seems obvious to me that the absolutely appalling behavior of right and left wing pundits leads DIRECTLY to a tragedy like this. No one is trying to turn it into some kind of left/right debate - only pointing out what the OBVIOUS cause of something like this is.
If we do not address this, and start making people accountable for the incendiary hate speech that flows from both sides on a fucking DAILY BASIS…well lets just say you can expect a lot more of this sick shit.
A 9 year old girl died - who gives a fuck about the goddamned politics? But this country needs to get its collective head out of its collective ass and start seeing the consequences of this ridiculous behavior…[/quote]
Switch to decaff dude…
I think you are shooting flies with an elephant gun here. The kid was beyond disturbed, this isn’t about speech from the left or right. He checked out of reality and flew off the handle. Unbelievably horrible yes, but this kid’s filter was either broken or missing. He lost a grip on what is right and wrong. Hate is a natural human emotion by the way, acting on it is a whole other Oprah.
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When you are dealing with billions of people there are going to be many with broken minds.When people make absurd claims there are going to be many that believe these absurd claims.
I personally think it to be absurd to think it a good thing to kill illegal immigrants as they cross the border. Besides being MORALLY REPULSIVE the point of an American citizen crossing and getting killed and suing for a quadrillion dollars, it is also a bad business decision.
[quote]siouxperman wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
Save your breath guys - The left is totally blind. I’m waiting for Nancy Pelosi or one of the goons on the left to start blaming Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh for this. There is no end to their vile hatred.
But, why hasn’t it been touted that the killer was an atheist? From what I’ve read he was a very staunch atheist. Does anyone think that MSNBC or any of the other mainstream liberal media outlets will be talking about this?
Not a chance.[/quote]
Vile hatred? Jesus, relax man. Again, all current evidence points to him being completely nuts. Just opining here, but from his videos it looks like he’s got a thought disorder. I’m sure what he wrote makes complete sense to him, and I’ll bet he can’t see why it wouldn’t make sense to someone else either. dude’s a psycho. what’s the atheism got to do with it? a christian has never killed anyone?[/quote]
Timothy McVey was a good Christian boy
[quote]siouxperman wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
Save your breath guys - The left is totally blind. I’m waiting for Nancy Pelosi or one of the goons on the left to start blaming Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh for this. There is no end to their vile hatred.
But, why hasn’t it been touted that the killer was an atheist? From what I’ve read he was a very staunch atheist. Does anyone think that MSNBC or any of the other mainstream liberal media outlets will be talking about this?
Not a chance.[/quote]
Vile hatred? Jesus, relax man. Again, all current evidence points to him being completely nuts. Just opining here, but from his videos it looks like he’s got a thought disorder. I’m sure what he wrote makes complete sense to him, and I’ll bet he can’t see why it wouldn’t make sense to someone else either. dude’s a psycho. what’s the atheism got to do with it? a christian has never killed anyone?[/quote]
I work at the Jail in Tucson and I hope for the shooters sake that he really is batshit crazy because in my pod I have more than a few inmates that have said they would “take care” of him if he was housed with them. What sucks is he probably wont go to trial for at least a year so we will have deal with this POS until then.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]siouxperman wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
Save your breath guys - The left is totally blind. I’m waiting for Nancy Pelosi or one of the goons on the left to start blaming Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh for this. There is no end to their vile hatred.
But, why hasn’t it been touted that the killer was an atheist? From what I’ve read he was a very staunch atheist. Does anyone think that MSNBC or any of the other mainstream liberal media outlets will be talking about this?
Not a chance.[/quote]
Vile hatred? Jesus, relax man. Again, all current evidence points to him being completely nuts. Just opining here, but from his videos it looks like he’s got a thought disorder. I’m sure what he wrote makes complete sense to him, and I’ll bet he can’t see why it wouldn’t make sense to someone else either. dude’s a psycho. what’s the atheism got to do with it? a christian has never killed anyone?[/quote]
Timothy McVey was a good Christian boy[/quote]
It’s McVeigh.
No, he was not a “good Christian boy”. He was part of one of the most bigoted and intolerant forms of “Christianity,” it was the Christian Identity movement.
[quote]Wreckless wrote:
[quote]siouxperman wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]siouxperman wrote:
edit: they also need to figure out where this guy got the gun.[/quote]
If we walk away with one lesson let it be that criminals always find a way to get a gun. Stricter gun control laws will only keep guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens. [/quote]
I agree. I tried not to frame it in the context of stricter gun control. More wondering if it was provided to him, or if it was improperly stored at home. Reports were that he lived with his parents.[/quote]
You agree?
You don’t want to know if he bought the gun legally?
Strange.
[/quote]
Wreckless! Welcome back, man! Seriously! Your POV has been missed around here.
[[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]siouxperman wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20027918-503544.html[/quote]
Granted I know as little as anyone else, but I have reservations about bringing something like that into the fray. From the information out there the guy seems like a paranoid schizo or something, and I doubt that something Palin said would be the impetus for this. However, I doubt that we’ll see her “targeting” anyone in the future.[/quote]
I think we have to hold the rhetoric suspect.[/quote]
Good for the goose.
“Congress woman Gifford is dead to me”
Of course, Kos is scrubbing it from the site.
The internet never forgets though
cached version here.
http://hillbuzz.org/2011/01/08/my-congresswoman-voted-against-nancy-pelosi-and-is-now-dead-to-me-eerie-daily-kos-hit-piece-on-gabrielle-giffords-just-two-days-before-assassination-attempt-on-her/
Or this one? Since you think “targeting” amounts to inciting violence…
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/25/1204/74882/511/541568
“Who to primary? Well, I’d argue that we can narrow the target list by looking at those Democrats who sold out the Constitution last week. I’ve bolded members of the Blue Dogs for added emphasis.”
Gifford’s name is there.
[quote]Racer377 wrote:
[[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]siouxperman wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20027918-503544.html[/quote]
Granted I know as little as anyone else, but I have reservations about bringing something like that into the fray. From the information out there the guy seems like a paranoid schizo or something, and I doubt that something Palin said would be the impetus for this. However, I doubt that we’ll see her “targeting” anyone in the future.[/quote]
I think we have to hold the rhetoric suspect.[/quote]
Good for the goose.
“Congress woman Gifford is dead to me”
Of course, Kos is scrubbing it from the site.
The internet never forgets though
cached version here.
http://hillbuzz.org/2011/01/08/my-congresswoman-voted-against-nancy-pelosi-and-is-now-dead-to-me-eerie-daily-kos-hit-piece-on-gabrielle-giffords-just-two-days-before-assassination-attempt-on-her/
Or this one? Since you think “targeting” amounts to inciting violence…
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/25/1204/74882/511/541568
“Who to primary? Well, I’d argue that we can narrow the target list by looking at those Democrats who sold out the Constitution last week. I’ve bolded members of the Blue Dogs for added emphasis.”
Gifford’s name is there.
[/quote]
I did not read any of those sites TOO WELL , but i have never heard of them either . I think everyone has heard of Glen Beck , Rush Limpdick , Sara Palin and Faux news an obscure site that no one has heard of will never equate to the power the right wing has put into swirling nutjobery.
If I did miss something on that level ,please point it out
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
…had Mein Kampf and the Communist Manifesto amongst other classics of literature .[/quote]
OH NO! It was little Ryan.
[quote]siouxperman wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
Save your breath guys - The left is totally blind. I’m waiting for Nancy Pelosi or one of the goons on the left to start blaming Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh for this. There is no end to their vile hatred.
But, why hasn’t it been touted that the killer was an atheist? From what I’ve read he was a very staunch atheist. Does anyone think that MSNBC or any of the other mainstream liberal media outlets will be talking about this?
Not a chance.[/quote]
Vile hatred? Jesus, relax man. Again, all current evidence points to him being completely nuts. Just opining here, but from his videos it looks like he’s got a thought disorder. I’m sure what he wrote makes complete sense to him, and I’ll bet he can’t see why it wouldn’t make sense to someone else either. dude’s a psycho. what’s the atheism got to do with it? a christian has never killed anyone?[/quote]
I was not referring to anything you posted - There are a couple of seriously sick lefty’s on this site.