I had my first Test injection last week and am going in for my second today. They gave me 180 of Test for my first injection and prescribed Arimadex and Hydrocordothyazide(blood pressure is slightly high) for me. They included B-12 in the injection also.
They said to take 1mg of Arimadex on the day of the injection so I did. The next three days I felt like I had lots of energy, but no sex drive. The sex drive came back strong after 3 days.
2 Questions:
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I read on here that many people break up the Adex dose, so I am thinking of taking 0.5mg on the day of the Test injection, and then 0.25mg on Sunday and 0.25mg Tuesday. Thoughts on this?
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I asked about HCG and they said we had to wait 10 weeks to start it or else it causes my system to get “lazy”… I didn’t get this, can anyone explain?
Thanks!
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Yes break it up
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Bullshit
As an aside you need to be doing your own injections. Talk your doc into this. Twice per week
Were you on T prior to this?
If not I’m kind of surprised the doc put you on Arimidex without even knowing if you need it. Some guys get on TRT and their E2 levels don’t increase. Others, not the case.
If you need to be taking it- you’d probably be better off, like VT said, breaking up your dosages and spreading them throughout a week or so.
Ask your doc next time you’re in.
As for HCG, not really sure. I may have this wrong, but I think in long term use, HCG can cause the pituitary to stop or significantly reduce the amount of LH that is released. Plus I don’t think doctors typically use HCG for long term, more to jump start the testicles after stopping TRT or to increase fertility. I’m a newb so I could be wrong… Good luck either way!
[quote]lowTinTX wrote:
but I think in long term use, HCG can cause the pituitary to stop or significantly reduce the amount of LH that is released. ![/quote]
Ummm and exogenous testosterone DOESNT? The answer is “yes it does”…so to prescribe a primary compound (testosterone) that does this, and then claim that as the reason for not prescribing the scondary compound is disingenuous or ignorant–either way, not to be trusted.
So let me get this straight.
Arimidex shouldn’t be included from the get go. E2 levels should be monitored and if they become too high then it should be perscribed 1mg spread throughout the week.
And it would be wise to perscribe hcg from the start of trt? because exogenous testosterone will shut down an individual’s own production of lh and fsh. am i correct?
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I know several guys who do NOT use Arimidex. You do not want to use anything you don`t need. Get blood work first.
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If you plan on using HCG, it is better to start right away. If I recall correctly, Crisler used to start his patients on testosterone first and add HCG later, but then found that it made it harder to fine tune the correct dose of both testosterone and HCG when it was added at a later date.
Im not a doctor, but FWIW, I dont see any argument for waiting with HCG.
[quote]lowTinTX wrote:
Were you on T prior to this?
If not I’m kind of surprised the doc put you on Arimidex without even knowing if you need it. Some guys get on TRT and their E2 levels don’t increase. Others, not the case.
If you need to be taking it- you’d probably be better off, like VT said, breaking up your dosages and spreading them throughout a week or so.
Ask your doc next time you’re in.
As for HCG, not really sure. I may have this wrong, but I think in long term use, HCG can cause the pituitary to stop or significantly reduce the amount of LH that is released. Plus I don’t think doctors typically use HCG for long term, more to jump start the testicles after stopping TRT or to increase fertility. I’m a newb so I could be wrong… Good luck either way![/quote]
No, this is my first time on anything other than OTC supplements. They included the Arimidex because I expressed concern about Gyno and asked a question related to a skin condition I had about a year ago that the dermatologist said was related to high estrogen levels.
I have still been taking it, but breaking it up with .5mg on the day of the shot, .25 two days later, and .25 two days after that. Once I did this I didn’t notice a change in sex drive.
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
[quote]lowTinTX wrote:
but I think in long term use, HCG can cause the pituitary to stop or significantly reduce the amount of LH that is released. ![/quote]
Ummm and exogenous testosterone DOESNT? The answer is “yes it does”…so to prescribe a primary compound (testosterone) that does this, and then claim that as the reason for not prescribing the scondary compound is disingenuous or ignorant–either way, not to be trusted.[/quote]
Regarding the HCG, I asked the PA for the reason they delay starting it until after 10 weeks. He said that HCG causes Testosterone levels to rise, so they want to get the first two monthly blood tests in before starting it.