Are Republicans Crazy?

[force_of_one]

I don’t think Obama is a Muslim, but he is a radical leftist.
I don’t think Republicans are crazy, just leaderless and lacking in group identity.

But don’t worry. Assuming this country survives Barry’s administation, the post Obama backlash will be HUGE. Bigger than anything we have ever seen before. Bigger even than the horrible soul sucking megatrend liberalism has turned into.

I don’t think free healthcare for all is a bad idea in and of itself, but there’s just no way you can transorm THIS countries healthcare system to a socialistic model with out completely wrecking it. people say 'it will be like Canada" and “It will be like t3h UK”… Nope. It would be a lot worse.

It’s very popular in society these days to put down and demonize Republicans because Bush was a Republican. But personally I tend to resist the tug of popular sentiment and look at things objectively.

[DoubleDuce]

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
You know making that last post, I felt like an announcer trying to sell a music album, like dancing to the oldies, I am surprised many of the older people do not see right through the Republican bull shit, He pals around with terrorist, he is a Muslim, He is going to take away your guns, he is a Socialist He was not born in America and I am sure I have missed a lot. I guess lying is the Standard M.O. of the Republican party[/quote]

Could you please present the evidence to disprove this batshit crazy stuff?

[pittbulll]

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
You know making that last post, I felt like an announcer trying to sell a music album, like dancing to the oldies, I am surprised many of the older people do not see right through the Republican bull shit, He pals around with terrorist, he is a Muslim, He is going to take away your guns, he is a Socialist He was not born in America and I am sure I have missed a lot. I guess lying is the Standard M.O. of the Republican party

Could you please present the evidence to disprove this batshit crazy stuff?[/quote]

Ask the Republicans , it was what they were flapping their gums about in the Clinton Admin

[pittbulll]

[quote]force of one wrote:
I don’t think Obama is a Muslim, but he is a radical leftist.
I don’t think Republicans are crazy, just leaderless and lacking in group identity.

But don’t worry. Assuming this country survives Barry’s administation, the post Obama backlash will be HUGE. Bigger than anything we have ever seen before. Bigger even than the horrible soul sucking megatrend liberalism has turned into.

I don’t think free healthcare for all is a bad idea in and of itself, but there’s just no way you can transorm THIS countries healthcare system to a socialistic model with out completely wrecking it. people say 'it will be like Canada" and “It will be like t3h UK”… Nope. It would be a lot worse.

It’s very popular in society these days to put down and demonize Republicans because Bush was a Republican. But personally I tend to resist the tug of popular sentiment and look at things objectively.[/quote]

Don’t forget McCain was a Republican so was Sarah Palin, and don’t forget Bobby Jindal, do you realize both Sarah and Bobby have cast demons out of people, That is my definition of sanity

[DoubleDuce]

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
You know making that last post, I felt like an announcer trying to sell a music album, like dancing to the oldies, I am surprised many of the older people do not see right through the Republican bull shit, He pals around with terrorist, he is a Muslim, He is going to take away your guns, he is a Socialist He was not born in America and I am sure I have missed a lot. I guess lying is the Standard M.O. of the Republican party

Could you please present the evidence to disprove this batshit crazy stuff?

Ask the Republicans , it was what they were flapping their gums about in the Clinton Admin
[/quote]

That’s what I figured. you have none. Also, I thought you brought up the clintons.

[pittbulll]

[quote]malonetd wrote:
Jab1 wrote:
Anyone who doesn’t want national health care is pretty crazy I reckon.

Anyone who DOES want national health care is batshit insane I reckon.

Why would I chose a service provider – wait, scratch that. Why would I want to be forced to have a provider chosen for me? Does the government know my body better than me? What the fuck do a bunch of lifetime politicians know about health and medicine?[/quote]

I also think that the politicians don?t make the best decisions , but the INS. Companies are raping the public, They demand that me (being a cash paying customer) pay a percentage more than they ( A Big INS. Company) The INS. Companies make up the rules as they go along just to suit the present situation, They try to screw the doctors out of money so that the doctors can only make money on your co pay, so you find your self going back 3 times when it could have been done in 1 trip, just so the Doc. can make a profit. Some doctors are refusing certain INS. Maybe one regulation would be to standardize coverage
I am not going to say that MED. INS. Is not the best way to go, but they need some serious regulation

[pittbulll]

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
You know making that last post, I felt like an announcer trying to sell a music album, like dancing to the oldies, I am surprised many of the older people do not see right through the Republican bull shit, He pals around with terrorist, he is a Muslim, He is going to take away your guns, he is a Socialist He was not born in America and I am sure I have missed a lot. I guess lying is the Standard M.O. of the Republican party

Could you please present the evidence to disprove this batshit crazy stuff?

Ask the Republicans , it was what they were flapping their gums about in the Clinton Admin

That’s what I figured. you have none. Also, I thought you brought up the clintons.[/quote]

Do you think , I am making acusations against the Clintons or do you think I am critisizing the rEpublicans

[jj_dude]

[quote]sherekahn wrote:
Like the JFK assassination, i doubt we’ll ever know what really happened.
[/quote]

??? Try this on:

-JFK runs as an ardent anti-communist. Sponsors Bay of Pigs invasion.

-JFK seriously humiliates the Soviet Union in the Cuban missile crisis (footnote, Che Guevarra, head of the Cuban secret police, masterminded the missile deployment. What a sweetie.)

-Communist sympathizer shoots JFK.

-Dems remake themselves from being the Good Old Boy Party (not one of my redneck Southern relatives would be caught dead voting for a Republican, BTW) into the socially conscious eco-friendly doo-gooders.

-JFK gets a makeover with the party, and his assassination suddenly becomes a deeply mysterious affair probably all being a cover-up of some sort. Oliver Stone makes a simply ludicrous piece of dreck that ends up rewriting history.

If you really think there was a huge conspiracy or that it takes some gyrations to explain the JFK assassination, you’ve been duped.

And as always, I might just be full of shit…

– jj

[force_of_one]

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
force of one wrote:
I don’t think Obama is a Muslim, but he is a radical leftist.
I don’t think Republicans are crazy, just leaderless and lacking in group identity.

But don’t worry. Assuming this country survives Barry’s administation, the post Obama backlash will be HUGE. Bigger than anything we have ever seen before. Bigger even than the horrible soul sucking megatrend liberalism has turned into.

I don’t think free healthcare for all is a bad idea in and of itself, but there’s just no way you can transorm THIS countries healthcare system to a socialistic model with out completely wrecking it. people say 'it will be like Canada" and “It will be like t3h UK”… Nope. It would be a lot worse.

It’s very popular in society these days to put down and demonize Republicans because Bush was a Republican. But personally I tend to resist the tug of popular sentiment and look at things objectively.

Don’t forget McCain was a Republican so was Sarah Palin, and don’t forget Bobby Jindal, do you realize both Sarah and Bobby have cast demons out of people, That is my definition of sanity

[/quote]

I am not sure I understand what your talking about. But I do know this: There’s nothing wrong with Bobby Jindal except that he goes against the status quo. He spoke out against Obama and he told the truth. And all the Obama zombies started in on him exactly as expexted.

[Gambit_Lost]

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
You know making that last post, I felt like an announcer trying to sell a music album, like dancing to the oldies, I am surprised many of the older people do not see right through the Republican bull shit, He pals around with terrorist, he is a Muslim, He is going to take away your guns, he is a Socialist He was not born in America and I am sure I have missed a lot. I guess lying is the Standard M.O. of the Republican party

Could you please present the evidence to disprove this batshit crazy stuff?

Ask the Republicans , it was what they were flapping their gums about in the Clinton Admin

That’s what I figured. you have none. Also, I thought you brought up the clintons.[/quote]

Please, let us know how you know that Obama is a Kenya-born Muslim. We’ll see how “conservatives” and “republicans” respond to your accusations… This thread is asking just this question…

You are one of the “Birthers,” are you not?

[DoubleDuce]

[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
You know making that last post, I felt like an announcer trying to sell a music album, like dancing to the oldies, I am surprised many of the older people do not see right through the Republican bull shit, He pals around with terrorist, he is a Muslim, He is going to take away your guns, he is a Socialist He was not born in America and I am sure I have missed a lot. I guess lying is the Standard M.O. of the Republican party

Could you please present the evidence to disprove this batshit crazy stuff?

Ask the Republicans , it was what they were flapping their gums about in the Clinton Admin

That’s what I figured. you have none. Also, I thought you brought up the clintons.

Please, let us know how you know that Obama is a Kenya-born Muslim. We’ll see how “conservatives” and “republicans” respond to your accusations… This thread is asking just this question…

You are one of the “Birthers,” are you not?[/quote]

Islam is listed as his religion in his school documentation. I don’t think he was kenyan born, however, I do believe he legally lost his citezenship when he attended school living with his father. It’s really a technicality, whether that changes if he should be president or not, I don’t think it should.

But I had to present a certified birth certificate to get my license. He won’t present it in order to be president. I just don’t like that he had all his medical and school records sealed regardless of the natural born argument.

[jj_dude]

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
You know making that last post, I felt like an announcer trying to sell a music album, like dancing to the oldies, I am surprised many of the older people do not see right through the Republican bull shit, He pals around with terrorist, he is a Muslim, He is going to take away your guns, he is a Socialist He was not born in America and I am sure I have missed a lot. I guess lying is the Standard M.O. of the Republican party

Could you please present the evidence to disprove this batshit crazy stuff?

Ask the Republicans , it was what they were flapping their gums about in the Clinton Admin

That’s what I figured. you have none. Also, I thought you brought up the clintons.[/quote]

Just because I’ve been sick as Hell and am grumpy I’m going to have a rant.

THE MUSLIMS HAVE IT 100% RIGHT!!!

'bout what?

That there is no difference between religion and politics. See, for the vast majority of folks they use the same machinery for one as the other. Uh-huh, yup. The Muslims rightly see this as being a direct threat to their own religion and treat it as a scourge to be eradicated. Mudslinging in the US by Left, Right and whoever else wants to just shows they are right. You get upset that the Republicans who thought Foster was assassinated? Or the Dems claiming Bush invaded Iraq for the money? Sorry but they are all idiots and the fact you are aren’t calling them on it (AND THAT INCLUDES THE PEOPLE YOU AGREE WITH) means you are no damn better. Period.

So since I am an historian, I’ll finish by telling you that the fundamental innovation in US politics was the separation of Church and State. Religion was to be kept out and it is clear from the writings of Adams and Jefferson they meant the agenda-driven proselytizing we just accept. Sorry folks but you all are failing on that count. (Do any of you even know about the smear campaign against Jefferson for supporting Freedom of Religion? You think this type of politics is new to the US?)

Think about it. When someone makes a grandiose claim, reflect on how it would be. Easy target is 9-11 conspiracy nuts. If you read their accounts and don’t chafe at the casual insinuation of mass murder you really shouldn’t be voting. What if I said in public that you killed 3,000 people and covered it up? Your first reaction would be shocked laughter since it is so silly. But concerned citizens snarf up slander without batting an eye. What then if I really insist I’m right? Weirdly, the more sincere I am the more people are willing to give me the benefit of a dooubt rather than telling me to go fuck myself.

Sorry. I've been sick & running a fever, but this just tripped my trigger.

As always, I might just be full of shit.

– jj

[Gambit_Lost]

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
You know making that last post, I felt like an announcer trying to sell a music album, like dancing to the oldies, I am surprised many of the older people do not see right through the Republican bull shit, He pals around with terrorist, he is a Muslim, He is going to take away your guns, he is a Socialist He was not born in America and I am sure I have missed a lot. I guess lying is the Standard M.O. of the Republican party

Could you please present the evidence to disprove this batshit crazy stuff?

Ask the Republicans , it was what they were flapping their gums about in the Clinton Admin

That’s what I figured. you have none. Also, I thought you brought up the clintons.

Please, let us know how you know that Obama is a Kenya-born Muslim. We’ll see how “conservatives” and “republicans” respond to your accusations… This thread is asking just this question…

You are one of the “Birthers,” are you not?

Islam is listed as his religion in his school documentation. I don’t think he was kenyan born, however, I do believe he legally lost his citezenship when he attended school living with his father. It’s really a technicality, whether that changes if he should be president or not, I don’t think it should. But I had to present a certified birth certificate to get my license. He won’t present it in order to be president. I just don’t like that he had all his medical and school records sealed regardless of the natural born argument.[/quote]

I could have sworn you were more adamant in your accusations before. Have you come to the realization that “everyone is wrong but the internetz hold the right answer” is a foolish sentiment? Pardon if I’ve confused you with another “Birther.”

Regardless, what is this technicality you speak of which led him to lose his citizenship? Having personally interacted with a number of American citizens living with their children abroad, I’d like to let them know if and how they’re putting their child at risk of no longer being an American!!

[pittbulll]

[quote]force of one wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
force of one wrote:
I don’t think Obama is a Muslim, but he is a radical leftist.
I don’t think Republicans are crazy, just leaderless and lacking in group identity.

But don’t worry. Assuming this country survives Barry’s administation, the post Obama backlash will be HUGE. Bigger than anything we have ever seen before. Bigger even than the horrible soul sucking megatrend liberalism has turned into.

I don’t think free healthcare for all is a bad idea in and of itself, but there’s just no way you can transorm THIS countries healthcare system to a socialistic model with out completely wrecking it. people say 'it will be like Canada" and “It will be like t3h UK”… Nope. It would be a lot worse.

It’s very popular in society these days to put down and demonize Republicans because Bush was a Republican. But personally I tend to resist the tug of popular sentiment and look at things objectively.

Don’t forget McCain was a Republican so was Sarah Palin, and don’t forget Bobby Jindal, do you realize both Sarah and Bobby have cast demons out of people, That is my definition of sanity

I am not sure I understand what your talking about. But I do know this: There’s nothing wrong with Bobby Jindal except that he goes against the status quo. He spoke out against Obama and he told the truth. And all the Obama zombies started in on him exactly as expexted.

[/quote]

The Daily Beast

What did Jindal tell the truth about? If you will be more specific, I will try to answer your questions

[DoubleDuce]

[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
You know making that last post, I felt like an announcer trying to sell a music album, like dancing to the oldies, I am surprised many of the older people do not see right through the Republican bull shit, He pals around with terrorist, he is a Muslim, He is going to take away your guns, he is a Socialist He was not born in America and I am sure I have missed a lot. I guess lying is the Standard M.O. of the Republican party

Could you please present the evidence to disprove this batshit crazy stuff?

Ask the Republicans , it was what they were flapping their gums about in the Clinton Admin

That’s what I figured. you have none. Also, I thought you brought up the clintons.

Please, let us know how you know that Obama is a Kenya-born Muslim. We’ll see how “conservatives” and “republicans” respond to your accusations… This thread is asking just this question…

You are one of the “Birthers,” are you not?

Islam is listed as his religion in his school documentation. I don’t think he was kenyan born, however, I do believe he legally lost his citezenship when he attended school living with his father. It’s really a technicality, whether that changes if he should be president or not, I don’t think it should. But I had to present a certified birth certificate to get my license. He won’t present it in order to be president. I just don’t like that he had all his medical and school records sealed regardless of the natural born argument.

I could have sworn you were more adamant in your accusations before. Have you come to the realization that “everyone is wrong but the internetz hold the right answer” is a foolish sentiment? Pardon if I’ve confused you with another “Birther.”

Regardless, what is this technicality you speak of which led him to lose his citizenship? Having personally interacted with a number of American citizens living with their children abroad, I’d like to let them know if and how they’re putting their child at risk of no longer being an American!!

[/quote]

He attended school in Indonesia. In order to register for school there you had to be a citizen. Indonesia at the time didn’t provide for dual citizenship. Technically he was no longer a citizen and should have had to be naturalized back into US citizenship.

I don’t know that the constitution is specific enough to deny him if he was natural born and at some point lost citizenship.

I’m more curious as to other things that might be in those sealed records. I mean if he obviously is a citizen, then there should seem some other reason to keep them hidden.

[BSrunner]

[quote]pat wrote:
BSrunner wrote:
Ha Ha, I think Republics are crazy. To pin their hopes on a Bobby Jindal/Sarah Palin 2010 ticket.

Or Michael Steele/ Rush Limbaugh 2010. actually maybe I would like to see that…

Are you assuming that obama, biden and pelosi will be impeached and removed from office by 2010?
LOL![/quote]

My bad: 2010 is the year I graduate, i definitely meant 2012. Yes, republicans would be crazy to hope for the presidency by 2010

[Gambit_Lost]

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

Gambit_Lost wrote:
Regardless, what is this technicality you speak of which led him to lose his citizenship? Having personally interacted with a number of American citizens living with their children abroad, I’d like to let them know if and how they’re putting their child at risk of no longer being an American!!

He attended school in Indonesia. In order to register for school there you had to be a citizen. Indonesia at the time didn’t provide for dual citizenship. Technically he was no longer a citizen and should have had to be naturalized back into US citizenship.[/quote]

Wait, you think some school’s rules supersede American law?

Indonesia allowing dual citizenship or not doing so has no bearing whatsoever on American law or citizenship laws. We Americans don’t follow Indonesian law. Further, if some school made an exception, broke their own rules, made some stupid rule, or Barak’s 'rents simply lied to the school doesn’t have any relation to American laws… You’re not actually serious, are you?

[quote]
I don’t know that the constitution is specific enough to deny him if he was natural born and at some point lost citizenship.

I’m more curious as to other things that might be in those sealed records. I mean if he obviously is a citizen, then there should seem some other reason to keep them hidden.[/quote]

Please elaborate on these “sealed records.”

[tom63]

[quote]Jab1 wrote:
tom63 wrote:
Jab1 wrote:
Anyone who doesn’t want national health care is pretty crazy I reckon.

And people actually think Obama is a muslim? You know there is a reason why the world image of the States is a lumbering idiot. It’s a shame, because there are a hell of a lot of smart people in the country.

Worry about England and your great health care system. Average wait for a gall bladder operation in England, 9 months.

I had mine done in less than two weeks and it could have been sooner if I didn’t have to adjust my office schedule. How is that waiting in the parking lot in an ambulance for hours because the mandated no one waits over 4 hours law?

You are truly a fool.

Yeah it’s true. I’m a fool. It’s not like me and everyone else I know has had pretty much universally good experiences with the NHS or anything. I’m such an idiot for getting first rate professional health care for free.

This is not to diminish the awfulness of what you said though. Those things do happen and they should not. The NHS isn’t perfect. I’ve worked in a hospital so I know first hand how bad things can be.

[/quote]

so you are a fool. I have health insurance, and tell me why I should get lesser care to care for someone who does not have it. why shoudl my care be diluted.

You have good experiences if you are young and healthy and don’t need it. Get a problem and you ahve a problem.

[tom63]

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
You know making that last post, I felt like an announcer trying to sell a music album, like dancing to the oldies, I am surprised many of the older people do not see right through the Republican bull shit, He pals around with terrorist, he is a Muslim, He is going to take away your guns, he is a Socialist He was not born in America and I am sure I have missed a lot. I guess lying is the Standard M.O. of the Republican party

Could you please present the evidence to disprove this batshit crazy stuff?

Ask the Republicans , it was what they were flapping their gums about in the Clinton Admin

That’s what I figured. you have none. Also, I thought you brought up the clintons.

Please, let us know how you know that Obama is a Kenya-born Muslim. We’ll see how “conservatives” and “republicans” respond to your accusations… This thread is asking just this question…

You are one of the “Birthers,” are you not?

Islam is listed as his religion in his school documentation. I don’t think he was kenyan born, however, I do believe he legally lost his citezenship when he attended school living with his father. It’s really a technicality, whether that changes if he should be president or not, I don’t think it should.

But I had to present a certified birth certificate to get my license. He won’t present it in order to be president. I just don’t like that he had all his medical and school records sealed regardless of the natural born argument.[/quote]

If you give up your citizenship, it does matter and does not allow you to serve as president.

[DoubleDuce]

[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:

Gambit_Lost wrote:
Regardless, what is this technicality you speak of which led him to lose his citizenship? Having personally interacted with a number of American citizens living with their children abroad, I’d like to let them know if and how they’re putting their child at risk of no longer being an American!!

He attended school in Indonesia. In order to register for school there you had to be a citizen. Indonesia at the time didn’t provide for dual citizenship. Technically he was no longer a citizen and should have had to be naturalized back into US citizenship.

Wait, you think some school’s rules supersede American law?

Indonesia allowing dual citizenship or not doing so has no bearing whatsoever on American law or citizenship laws. We Americans don’t follow Indonesian law. Further, if some school made an exception, broke their own rules, made some stupid rule, or Barak’s 'rents simply lied to the school doesn’t have any relation to American laws… You’re not actually serious, are you?

[/quote]
What? I really think you are missing the point. in order to of legally attended school in Indonesia he would have had to renounce US citizenship. It has nothing to do with school rules “superseding” American law. It has to do with him renouncing his own citizenship. It’s possible his father lied, or cheated to get around Indonesian law, but that part of the equation would be pure speculation. If he was legally attending school, he was no longer a US citizen.

[quote]

I don’t know that the constitution is specific enough to deny him if he was natural born and at some point lost citizenship.

I’m more curious as to other things that might be in those sealed records. I mean if he obviously is a citizen, then there should seem some other reason to keep them hidden.

Please elaborate on these “sealed records.” [/quote]

Uh, he never released his school or medical records.