TBF, most of the blame is on the people who keep reponding and giving his nonsense a platform. We are quite terrible at ignoring gobbledygook.
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I genuinely think it’s because the vast majority of people on here have something productive and insightful to say or they are willing to learn.
Then you have the select few who are wrong and know they aren’t. At least that’s how I see it lol
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Maybe, but let’s be honest…a few posts in, we all should have gathered we have nothing to learn from OP. I think it’s just too fun to poke at trolls sometimes. Schadenfreude it’s a truly addictive force on the internet.
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absolutely. There’s been some great ones recently. From the power of celery to “Dan John meat sucker” (not a direct quote)
I learned a new word and I’m a fan of it
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I don’t think we have trolls as much as arrogant wannabes. I’ll appreciate a high-quality troll, but there have to be standards.
I was once told “Everyone has three hills they will die on. To be right, to be important, or to be liked.”
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I’d add hamburger hill to that list
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I do think there’s a legitimate case to be made, up to a point, of clarifying some things for lurkers. To your point, that was probably 90 posts ago.
The gobbledygook and the malarkey are what make Bigger, Stronger, Leaner so fun! Especially if arguments get heated. I’m here for the tea
max contraction training is exactly what im talking about heres a goddamm film abt it,. this entire forum is wrong and im righht!!! see!!!
This is certainly the crux of the thread. Why, then, open things up with a question?
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because that was the birth of my idea and now i find out its been done and is tried and true more effective just as i suspected via my own experimenting.
so i didn’t read about it and then do it and use some confirmation bias to this, i actually thought about it then did it and saw it worked and then i asked here.
and since i asked here i kept thinking on it and now iv concluded on this and its been done and tested on other subjects and has been valid damn near decade ago.
go watch the damn film . you all are complete idiots for disagreeing with me, because i came from a logical point and you just wanted to argue against it with “post your picture”
stick to your tradition, that’s all you guys are , you don’t want to know what works you want to follow tradition .
Fair point. As always, I’ve some real soul-searching in my immediate future.
I don’t care if you post a picture or not, and there’s valid reasons someone would not care to do so. However, these two sentences seem diametrically opposed: isn’t asking for a picture asking for evidence to learn if a method works?
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They are a thing – and quite an effective thing – just not for the reasons you’re promulgating.
You are not and never will be a professional athlete. You will never be an Olympian. You will never win a professional bodybuilding competition. You will never be a powerlifting champion nor compete as a professional strongman. This isn’t to denigrate you, but simply a statement of reality.
You keep talking about effectiveness; effective for what? This question has been asked numerous times and you ignore it. This is a typical ploy used by trolls. But giving you the benefit of the doubt, if what you’ve discovered is so effective, why haven’t you achieved anything? Why are you posting here instead of winning something? Why aren’t you at least competing in something? You call us all idiots but your lack of achievement isn’t really a glowing endorsement of your breakthrough training methodology.
You must agree that some “before and after” pics would greatly support your case. Most people think that I am from Missouri, the Show Me State.
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You bros did see two of the strongest dudes Ever using partial lifts in the hip belt, right?
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Sure, but the original question wasn’t whether there’s any validity to the movement; it was whether it’s a superior movement to the full-range squat.
Over the course of the thread, it appears to have morphed into whether the top-end partial belt squat is the only justifiable lower body exercise for all goals.
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The best will always be the best doing any approach. It’s like using equipment in powerlifting, the best equipment lifters are usually still the best raw lifters.
Most of this comes from determination and drive to keep doing something, genetics also plays a role like being 6’8 in a sport that wants people to load stones on a platform a 5’8” guy can’t even reach.
Starting young is a huge advantage too. If you follow Dan John since age 10 you’re going to be a specimen by age 18. An average adult following will most likely just become above average in the same amount of time.
Kids who start lifting early on, become specimens.
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Only if they are gifted with great genetics, IMO.
All things being equal, this is a genetics limited endeavor.
We can all make drastic improvement doing recognized, proven methods. In actuality we are competing against ourselves, because that is who is your greatest competition.
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How would you know? Approach matters at the highest levels because everyone is talented.