[quote]forlife wrote:
Women shouldn’t be self-reliant and can’t hunt deer, build fires, or change a tire? My mom eats my step dad for lunch on “self-reliance”.[/quote]
No one is saying women shouldn’t be self reliant, and you know that. You just made that shit up in a pathetic attempt to claim the moral high ground. If you had been paying the least bit of attention since you’ve been posting here, you would have realized that the male posters on this site are the kind who find self reliant women to be sexy.
Here is the entire conversation in a nut shell. Try to follow.
Someone asked, are men obsolete? Women can do any job a man can, or at least, you can find an example of a woman who is suceeding at every job that was once considered to be for men only. My argument was that women can do a lot of these manual labor jobs because technology has reached the point that men’s natural advantage in strength/testosterone is no longer needed. You don’t need the strong back of John Henry to dig a tunnel when you’ve got dynamite and a bulldozer, both of which a woman of average strength can use just as easily as a man. However, most of these jobs are still done by men because women don’t want them. They’re tiring and dirty.
And, this was PRCal’s point, even though women are scoring as high as men in Math and Science, most still don’t choose to pursue degrees and careers in engineering and other hard sciences. No one is blocking their way, they just aren’t interested. My sister always got straight A’s in Math and Science, and she chose to get a very useful degree in Art History. She got those A’s because they were expected of her, not because she had any affinity for the subjects. And this is after several decades of concerted efforts in our culture to get girls interested in math and science.
Oh, and my Father and uncles would have been happy to teach my sister how to change her own oil or take her fishing or hunting, but she wasn’t the least bit interested.