It was in relation to other lifters in other lifting pursuits, and it was a deflection because he was failing in his argument that E2 is more androgenic than test and more of it is better no matter what for these pursuits. The change to ‘any Joe off the street’ is a further deflection. As a group, BBers are not as strong as PLers, Strongmen or O-lifters as groups. And it would be saying a ot about the quality of training protocols for the separate pursuits if it were otherwise.
Pile on? No. I was just hoping the responses would show how absurd his assertion is.
How much do you weigh?
Maybe you guys should settle it over some front squats.
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I was making a point, if you took the top 10 out of last years olympia, do you think there is ONE of them that couldn’t pull 500lbs or hasnt in their career?
Take 10 guys off the street, see how many can pull 500lbs
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but no, an average PL will total more than a good bodybuilder. its a different sport.
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Surely a bodybuilder is by definition someone who competes at bodybuilding?
In the same way that a footballer is someone who competes at the sport of football?
And this would prove your point only if you believe that a 500lbs deadlift qualifies you as “very strong”. I personally don’t, but you’re free to set your own standards.
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Probably, but that is not anywhere near overlapping WR stuff. Relative to other lifting sports, they are not as strong, and that should not be a surprise seeing as that’s not the goal.
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280 lbs. You can see a video in my training log if you need to.
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To the average population…normal people who don’t compete in sports…You are saying 500lbs isnt heavy?
id bet 90% of the population couldnt budge that fucking bar
Hell at my fitness gym i bet there is only a handful that could pull 500lbs
But no, I agree, for most BB and PL 500lbs is achievable with a few years of training
I don’t think that is how the term is used colloquially but then again English is not my native tongue.
Within my sphere of existence outside of the internet I have repeatedly heard the term “bodybuilder” used to describe a person that is
- somewhat lean, and
- whose primary form of exercise is lifting weights
By conversing I’ve been able to learn that people make the distinction rather arbitrarily (of course) and that depending on their familiarity with the persons training habits the term seems to be wielded moreso if the described individual trains using machines and dumbbells at all.
Again, when spoken, the equivalent to “weightlifter” in my language will mean more or less the same but betray a focus on performance and it’s more likely that when and if a person makes that distinction that the person being described does indeed compete.
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It is heavy, took me years to achieve that. But I don’t normally measure my worth at activities against the general untrained population, because that’s dumb. Comparing myself to people who aren’t competing seems like nothing more than an ego trip. Like outrunning people who don’t know they’re in a race.
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I agree. Like others have said, its all “relative” to what your talking about
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Indeed. People use language incorrectly all the time.
It feels irrelevant to this argument, so I won’t bang on about it too much but surely someone can only rightfully claim to be a bodybuilder if they’ve competed in the sport of bodybuilding? Ie. They’ve done a show.
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Where do you live and who are you exposed to daily? One can go to a crowded mall, beach, concert, or large business and likely find one or zero men who can deadlift 500 for reps, literally.
The average adult does not even lift, or lift by the definition we use here.
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This is what i was trying to say, the general public…and even most gym rats cant pull 500lbs.
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My point in asking your weight, was to show you how strong you are.
You can plug in your stats, and see for yourself. Keep in mind, that this is compared to other weigh lifters, and doesn’t account for the majority who don’t work out.
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I don’t know. Not my gate to keep.
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