Anyone Tried Superdrol Yet?

[tenpi]

[quote]Rockscar wrote:
tenpi wrote:
Rockscar wrote:
At 18, you should not do it. Playing with T levels at your human growth stage is ill advised. Wait to 21. No lecture required.

No offense, but you dodged my question, and lectured me. Will using the proper T boosters during PCT get my T levels back where they should and keep them that way? It’s a yes or no question.

Ok, you little Jackass. I was being nice, and probably should have not answered becase your question was snotty in the first place.

I did not lecture you, read above, plain and simple. If I was lecturing you i’d tell your pubecent little ass to not think about it and it’s stupid to even think about. But instead, I see all you need is a quick BITCH SLAP![/quote]

… Dude… Look at your arms in that picture under your name… Now shut up. My forearms are bigger than that.

[tenpi]

If you?ve already heard the risks and heard the lecture, then why haven?t you been able to perform a cost:benefit analysis and decide for yourself if this is something you want to try?

Because I’m still unsure if my T levels, at this age, will be able to restore themselves back to normal.

[quote] Obviously you did no research at all on this site, or you would have a cursory knowledge of T boosters and how they figure into PCT. Further more, the boards, sites or other research sources you?ve looked at must be retarded if they talk about AAS or even prohormones and don?t discuss PCT in depth.

Read everything Cy Willson ever wrote on here for starters [/quote]

I’ve read alot of Cy Willson’s articles, and I know alot about PCT. What I’m worried about is MY AGE and T levels, stupid.
I read countless articles about PCT and normal adults, never about an 18 year old. If you can point to one article that talks about PCT for
18 year olds then I will personaly send you 100 dollars via paypal.

You want someone to hold your hand and say ?Take this much at this time and then take this for PCT? Well, tough shit. It?s obvious that there isn?t a lot of experience with this product on this board. Furthermore, you?re also obviously aware that no one thinks you need to spend your money on this at 18. I suggest you either bite the bullet and try the shit, using Alpha Male for PCT, or don?t. Do something, just don?t be such a prick about it. Don?t expect everyone to do your thinking and ?research? for you.

I’m not sure if this is a site error, but your entire lecture was filled with ?'s instead of the proper punctuation.
I think I was able to translate it. I know how much to take and what to take during PCT. I just want to have my question answered. Is it that hard to have one single question answered?
I’ve repeated it several times and no one has answered it yet… So sad really. You try to act out and be tough and try to shoot me down, yet you continue to dodge my origonal question.

I find it hard to believe you couldn?t form a logical regimen for evaluating this product if you had read even half of the AAS articles on this site, not to mention your other ?research?. If you had said ?I?m going to try this at X dosage, for X days with X PCT, what does everyone think?? your response would have been much more positive. Don?t start your query by telling us what dumb forum whores we are and expecting us to spoon feed you information

Like I’ve said before, I’m still researching. This IS my research. I don’t want any answers spoon fed to me, EXEPT THE ONE I ASKED. None of the articles on this site answer my questions. My offer still stands.

Also, don?t blow off Cy Willson’s response regarding the legality of this stuff, he forgot more about steroid biochemistry taking his morning shit than we?ll ever know. Have some respect.

I didn’t “blow it off”, what made you think I’m disregarding anything on this site? When did I blow it off? The site said it’s legal, it shipped just fine, no cops came looking for me, so I’m ok.

[sretsam]

[quote]tenpi wrote:
I don’t want any answers spoon fed to me, EXEPT THE ONE I ASKED.
[/quote]

So, you want someone to spoon feed you what you want to hear?

[jsbrook]

[quote]Cy Willson wrote:
T-Bone2 wrote:
Cy Willson wrote:
Given the definition in the updated law, I can’t see how this would be legal.

Cy,

Regardless of the legality, how would you rate this compound? Obviously some feedback that it is very useful during a mass phase, but not without some negative side effects, specifically with regard to cholesterol.

Oh, I couldn’t tell you as I don’t have any experience with it. I remember someone reporting ad claims about the compound being a “hybrid” of two androgens, which while fitting perfectly if we’re talking about plant genetics, does not fit so well in respect to medicinal chemistry.

That’s not to say the product isn’t effective, but some of the material I find on these products, or the ads rather, are ridiculous. In terms of efficacy, one would have to base that primarily on anecdotal data, which from what you’ve gathered, appears to be a useful compound. In short, I don’t doubt that this product is effective, but it should be clear that this is an anabolic steroid.

As far as side effects, being 17 alpha-alkylated, almost exclusively, is associated with hepatotoxicity (perhaps overblown) and a negative alteration in blood lipids, including a substantial decrease in HDL. So, the side effects being noted aren’t of any surprise. In short, treat it as you would any alkylated androgen.[/quote]

Given this, do you think that Alpha Male would be inappropriate, Cy? Should something be used in addition post-cycle? Also, would you recommend anything during use of Superdrol? thanks

[jsbrook]

[quote]tenpi wrote:
If you?ve already heard the risks and heard the lecture, then why haven?t you been able to perform a cost:benefit analysis and decide for yourself if this is something you want to try?

Because I’m still unsure if my T levels, at this age, will be able to restore themselves back to normal.

[/quote]

That’s the entire reason why people tell children not to use such compounds. No one knows for sure. It’s very precarious. Somtimes people are fine, and sometimes they’ll continue to experience problems. If you want to take the risk, do it.

[conorh]

I’ve read, here on T-Nation, and backed by an abstract in the Journal of Endocrinology and Metabolism (I think) that adolescents are more sensitive to LH changes than older folks. Given that I would tend to believe that a T-booster working via that mechanism would be effective for your situation. Also, given the research done on TRIBEX with D1 university athletes, not much older than yourself, I would guess that to be true.

Now, that info was off of the top of my head, from what I’ve read on this site. Is it accurate? Who knows. People don’t do research with supplemental androgens and adolescents because it is unethical. No university would allow it. Does this mean it won’t work or that it will jack you up forever? Who knows?

Given the body of empirical evidence I would think that if a OTC T-booster weren’t enough for PCT with this product, you would have heard about it in your “research”.

It is with great misgivings that I posted this, but I want to emphasize the point that I have no great experience with AAS/PH and only a elementary formal education in chemistry, so everything I know I have gleaned from independent study. I suggest you learn to be tactful and effective in yours, instead of annoying and petty.

Next time don’t come off like such a whiny, dumb shit kid in your posts.

Oh, and I pretty much said the same thing in an earlier post.

[Rockscar]

[quote]tenpi wrote:
Rockscar wrote:
tenpi wrote:
Rockscar wrote:
At 18, you should not do it. Playing with T levels at your human growth stage is ill advised. Wait to 21. No lecture required.

No offense, but you dodged my question, and lectured me. Will using the proper T boosters during PCT get my T levels back where they should and keep them that way? It’s a yes or no question.

Ok, you little Jackass. I was being nice, and probably should have not answered becase your question was snotty in the first place.

I did not lecture you, read above, plain and simple. If I was lecturing you i’d tell your pubecent little ass to not think about it and it’s stupid to even think about. But instead, I see all you need is a quick BITCH SLAP!

… Dude… Look at your arms in that picture under your name… Now shut up. My forearms are bigger than that.[/quote]

Go pop some chest zits little boy. So unless I have 20" arms I should shut up? At least I have the balls to use my own image instead of a manufactured one. You make me laugh.

Go stroke it some more…

[Rockscar]

[quote]tenpi wrote:
Rockscar wrote:
tenpi wrote:
Rockscar wrote:
At 18, you should not do it. Playing with T levels at your human growth stage is ill advised. Wait to 21. No lecture required.

No offense, but you dodged my question, and lectured me. Will using the proper T boosters during PCT get my T levels back where they should and keep them that way? It’s a yes or no question.

Ok, you little Jackass. I was being nice, and probably should have not answered becase your question was snotty in the first place.

I did not lecture you, read above, plain and simple. If I was lecturing you i’d tell your pubecent little ass to not think about it and it’s stupid to even think about. But instead, I see all you need is a quick BITCH SLAP!

… Dude… Look at your arms in that picture under your name… Now shut up. My forearms are bigger than that.[/quote]

Oh, and please prove it.

[Rockscar]

Now… I say go for it. There are no side effects at all. Take a crap load too. It’s all good. Your T levels should come back just fine, in fact they should go through the roof after your little cycle is done.

[gottatrain]

Another young punk looking for the easy way to put on size. Let me guess, you’ve already reached your “genetic potential?” Instead of phucking with your T levels chemically at such a young age, why not try busting your ass more and eating more first?

[T_Bone2]

[quote]Cy Willson wrote:
In short, treat it as you would any alkylated androgen.[/quote]

Cy, Thanks for the reply.

[Rockscar]

I second the good info.

[SkyzykS]

I love it when some stupid kid starts reading and thinks he is doing research. Research is done by people with Ph.Ds in a controlled environment, among a chosen population, documented, analyzed, and then presented for review.
What you are doing is reading.
Get over yourself.

[Kuz]

[quote]tenpi wrote:
Kuz wrote:
tenpi wrote:
Well they do know the law. I read something on another BBing site that said that they are barely getting past the law, but some dumb technicallity probably. Probably what you were saying before.

They do know the law? Really? And what in the world are you basing this on? Because they are trying to use some clever means of going around it until they get nailed?

Yes, they do know. Should I say it again? Should I say it slower?

Love the fact that anyone who tells you not to use the stuff at 18 is a “forum whore” and we have to be limited to answering a yes or no question. Guess what? If it’s a stupid question, then no, we’re not limited. I love how we are getting an influx of 18 year old geniuses on here these days who won’t listen to advice from anyone. Is there something in the water supply causing a proliferation of prodigies that I’m unaware of?

Uhh nice job putting shit in my mouth. I wasn’t saying EVERYONE who says that is. I was using that term as a deterrent for you brainless morons who think I’ve never been lectured on the use of anibolics at my age. I’m not limiting it to anything, I’m just telling you what I want. If you can’t handle that then don’t post.

This isn’t the first time I’ve posted in a BBing forum. You’re never limited to answering, regardless of it being a “stupid question” or not. It’s obviously not a stupid question because you can’t answer it. I do listen to advice, I’ve heard the same advice over and over again and I’m still listening. Just because I ask a question that you don’t like doesn’t mean I’m not listening. You have no clue what my intentions are. You haven’t/can’t answer my question, so keep your out-of-shape ass out.

[/quote]

Like I thought - just an ignorant punk. You cannot even answer my questions as to how this company knows this stuff to be legal. Wow, you read it on another BB web site? Gee, I’m sold! I guess I should go throw out my bar admissions and law school diploma and rely on anything written on Internet forums as gospel! Who knew it would be so easy???

Well, you are quickly proving yourself to be another SinewNotSize/XCelticX punk - so wise beyond your years, who will pout and cry and call people out of shape if they refuse to kowtow to his questions. Who cares if everyone and their brother lets you know you are too young to use this stuff? Ohh, because you are doing “research” that makes it all OK.

And FYI, if you as you say, “I do listen to advice, I’ve heard the same advice over and over again and I’m still listening.” that ain’t listening. That’s just hoping someone gives you the answer you want (i.e. have a blast and use the crap). That’s arrogance, and even worse, arrogance from someone who has posted here all of 10 times and has not shown one damn thing to earn an ounce of respect. Nice job. Enjoy your time on T-Nation. I’m guessing it will turn out like some of our other recent “friends”.

[Rockscar]

The Kuz and I are out of shape and have small arms because we work out and eat a lot and take anabolics too. Don’t do it BOOGIE BOY!

[rainjack]

How fucking fat are you, little man? That might have a lot to do with what your PCT should look like - or if you would see any benefit from “Superdrol”

Most little pricks like you that come into a forum like this and waste their first 10 goddamn posts trying to look like they don’t have their head stuck 18 inches up their ass, are also fat, lazy little dinks that don’t have the balls to post their stats in their profile.

SO answer my question, needle dick - How fucking fat are you? My guess is that you are an lazy, obese estrogen factory.

Maybe you should take your two day old membership here and go somewhere where folks will kiss your pimpled, fat ass.

[ScottL]

It is legal because it was released at the last minute and has not been added to the appropriate list. It can certainly be. Its sales were stopped right after the ban, but then various people have started selling it again.

Of course right now a number of companies are pushing things…and when the gov’t decides to push back, it may not be pretty.

[Kuz]

[quote]ScottL wrote:
It is legal because it was released at the last minute and has not been added to the appropriate list. It can certainly be. Its sales were stopped right after the ban, but then various people have started selling it again.

Of course right now a number of companies are pushing things…and when the gov’t decides to push back, it may not be pretty.[/quote]

Given the fact that prohormones and prosteroids are classified as “controlled substances” in the same way as AAS or any other banned drug, it’s going to get ugly in a hurry for anyone continuing to push this. Amazing that anyone would even try.

[Joebob]

If I was 18 and didn’t know anything about PCT and had a fucked up attitude and had bigger forearms than all you guys put together I would do countless cycles of this stuff. I mean come on guys, 18 is the perfect age to start using steroids. Don’t ya’ll know anything.jeez

[Rockscar]

And He’s outaa here.