Anyone Tried Superdrol Yet?

Diet and Nutrition
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[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:
conorh

i think it’s legal becuase it’s not explictitly said that it’s illegal. i’m sure it will be once somebody catches on…SHHHH!!!

Tenpi,

you can prolly get you t-levels back up if you don’t use longer than 3 weeks. however, at 18, you’re still producing a lot of test anyway, so you could prolly save your money and buy a good creatine and protein. also, try some ZMA…

i just started Supedrol at 30 mg per day in the morning on Monday. also, i lift when i get up, so that’s kinda why i take it then, plus i’ve seen a lot of articles that suggest it’s better to just take one dose of prohormones to prevent any sides…i’ll update everyone on my progress.[/quote]
You started out at 30? You plan on raising it or what? I’d be interested on hearing how it goes from starting at such a high dose. Please keep us posted. I appreciete the info. I already have Creapure creatine and ZMA and a few bottles of Grow!. I’m just interested in ph/ps’s and I’d like to investigate them further. This is just part of my research.

EDIT: Quick question. If I were running a 3 week cycle, what dosage would I be on. Would it be to much to do 10/10/20? Should I stick to 10 the whole way? Thanks.

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[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:
conorh

i think it’s legal becuase it’s not explictitly said that it’s illegal. i’m sure it will be once somebody catches on…SHHHH!!!

Tenpi,

you can prolly get you t-levels back up if you don’t use longer than 3 weeks. however, at 18, you’re still producing a lot of test anyway, so you could prolly save your money and buy a good creatine and protein. also, try some ZMA…

i just started Supedrol at 30 mg per day in the morning on Monday. also, i lift when i get up, so that’s kinda why i take it then, plus i’ve seen a lot of articles that suggest it’s better to just take one dose of prohormones to prevent any sides…i’ll update everyone on my progress.[/quote]

So, it’s legal. Where exactly can you purchase it? And what kind of PCT would be recommended? Would an endogenous T-booster like Alpha Male be sufficient? Or is something additional necessary? How bout during the Supedrol? Do you need to take an anti-estrogen? Would M be enough?

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To answer the loud mouth kid’s question, yes I think Alpha Male would do the trick for PCT, but not for a real AAS cycle where you want to make sure and have hi-po stuff in order, clomid, nolva and adimidex for example.

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I’m stacking Superdrol (30 mg/day) and a single dose of MAG-10 (6 pills/day) and I’m blowing up. I’ve already had good results with MAG-10 before but stacking it with Superdrol is way better. I’m into my second week and strength and size are up. I’ll give some more feedback at the end of this cycle. Superdrol is definitely the real deal.

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[quote]randman wrote:
I’m stacking Superdrol (30 mg/day) and a single dose of MAG-10 (6 pills/day) and I’m blowing up. I’ve already had good results with MAG-10 before but stacking it with Superdrol is way better. I’m into my second week and strength and size are up. I’ll give some more feedback at the end of this cycle. Superdrol is definitely the real deal.[/quote]

Sounds goods. Just superdrol and MAG-10 right now? What do you plan for when you cycle off?

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[quote]jsbrook wrote:
Sounds goods. Just superdrol and MAG-10 right now? What do you plan for when you cycle off?
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Yes, just Superdrol and MAG-10; nothing else. Post-cycle: Alpha Male, M, Carbolin 19, and Methoxy-7.

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[quote]randman wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
Sounds goods. Just superdrol and MAG-10 right now? What do you plan for when you cycle off?

Yes, just Superdrol and MAG-10; nothing else. Post-cycle: Alpha Male, M, Carbolin 19, and Methoxy-7.[/quote]

Good luck and good gaining!

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[quote]conorh wrote:
How is this stuff legal for sale?

Here’s it’s chemical name:

2a-17a-dimethyl-5a-androst-3-one

And here’s a brief description:

Superdrol (methasteron) is definitely not a prohormone: it is a very active form of a designer supplement. Superdrol gets its name from the fact that it is a super-saturated, or 2-reduced, form of Anadrol. Anadrol has a =C-OH at the 2nd position, and if this is totally saturated (reduced) with hydrogen, it gives -CH3. Another way to describe it is that it is a 2a-17a-dimethyl of drostanolone (Masteron). Masteron has a single methyl group at the 2nd position. Superdrol is a modification of this structure by adding another methyl group at the 17th position, like M1T or M-Dien

I’m no biochem genius, but it sounds like it definitely is a prohormone. Can someone explain this one to me?

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Given the definition in the updated law, I can’t see how this would be legal. It (the law) doesn’t require that any specific compound be named, rather, it covers those by simply stating any compound or hormonal substance which is chemically and pharmacologically related to testosterone, which this molecule is, very much so. The 17 alpha-alkylation certainly doesn’t help matters either.

They are correct, it’s not a pro-hormone nor a pro-steroid, but such a statement is preying upon the fact that most of the general public doesn’t understand the technical meaning. Most people think any steroid they find on the internet for body building purposes is a “pro-hormone”. A pro-hormone is quite literally a hormone or molecule rather, which is itself inactive, but is activated (generally enzymatically) to an active hormone. A pro-steroid is again, a compound which is itself, inactive, but when administered, produces an active metabolite. Anyhow, using such rhetoric, is only meant to confuse the customer by saying that it’s not a “pro-hormone” but a “designer supplement” but the fact is that while it’s true that it’s not a pro-hormone, as the parent molecule is itself very much active, it is by definition, an anabolic steroid.

This has to be illegal. I would be careful about assuming this product is legal on the basis that a small company on the Internet is selling it. I believe this is a case of one of two things. Either they don’t know what the law stated, or, they do realize it and are simply going to sell as much as possible before someone steps in and makes them stop.

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[quote]Cy Willson wrote:
conorh wrote:
How is this stuff legal for sale?

Here’s it’s chemical name:

2a-17a-dimethyl-5a-androst-3-one

And here’s a brief description:

Superdrol (methasteron) is definitely not a prohormone: it is a very active form of a designer supplement. Superdrol gets its name from the fact that it is a super-saturated, or 2-reduced, form of Anadrol. Anadrol has a =C-OH at the 2nd position, and if this is totally saturated (reduced) with hydrogen, it gives -CH3. Another way to describe it is that it is a 2a-17a-dimethyl of drostanolone (Masteron). Masteron has a single methyl group at the 2nd position. Superdrol is a modification of this structure by adding another methyl group at the 17th position, like M1T or M-Dien

I’m no biochem genius, but it sounds like it definitely is a prohormone. Can someone explain this one to me?

Given the definition in the updated law, I can’t see how this would be legal. It (the law) doesn’t require that any specific compound be named, rather, it covers those by simply stating any compound or hormonal substance which is chemically and pharmacologically related to testosterone, which this molecule is, very much so. The 17 alpha-alkylation certainly doesn’t help matters either.

They are correct, it’s not a pro-hormone nor a pro-steroid, but such a statement is preying upon the fact that most of the general public doesn’t understand the technical meaning. Most people think any steroid they find on the internet for body building purposes is a “pro-hormone”. A pro-hormone is quite literally a hormone or molecule rather, which is itself inactive, but is activated (generally enzymatically) to an active hormone. A pro-steroid is again, a compound which is itself, inactive, but when administered, produces an active metabolite. Anyhow, using such rhetoric, is only meant to confuse the customer by saying that it’s not a “pro-hormone” but a “designer supplement” but the fact is that while it’s true that it’s not a pro-hormone, as the parent molecule is itself very much active, it is by definition, an anabolic steroid.

This has to be illegal. I would be careful about assuming this product is legal on the basis that a small company on the Internet is selling it. I believe this is a case of one of two things. Either they don’t know what the law stated, or, they do realize it and are simply going to sell as much as possible before someone steps in and makes them stop.[/quote]

Well they do know the law. I read something on another BBing site that said that they are barely getting past the law, but some dumb technicallity probably. Probably what you were saying before.

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[quote]Cy Willson wrote:
Given the definition in the updated law, I can’t see how this would be legal.[/quote]

Cy,

Regardless of the legality, how would you rate this compound? Obviously some feedback that it is very useful during a mass phase, but not without some negative side effects, specifically with regard to cholesterol.

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[quote]tenpi wrote:
Well they do know the law. I read something on another BBing site that said that they are barely getting past the law, but some dumb technicallity probably. Probably what you were saying before.[/quote]

They do know the law? Really? And what in the world are you basing this on? Because they are trying to use some clever means of going around it until they get nailed?

Love the fact that anyone who tells you not to use the stuff at 18 is a “forum whore” and we have to be limited to answering a yes or no question. Guess what? If it’s a stupid question, then no, we’re not limited. I love how we are getting an influx of 18 year old geniuses on here these days who won’t listen to advice from anyone. Is there something in the water supply causing a proliferation of prodigies that I’m unaware of?

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Thanks Kuz, that’s exactly what I was thinking. Everything about that post of his oozed know-it-all.

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[quote]Kuz wrote:
tenpi wrote:
Well they do know the law. I read something on another BBing site that said that they are barely getting past the law, but some dumb technicallity probably. Probably what you were saying before.

They do know the law? Really? And what in the world are you basing this on? Because they are trying to use some clever means of going around it until they get nailed?
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Yes, they do know. Should I say it again? Should I say it slower?

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Love the fact that anyone who tells you not to use the stuff at 18 is a “forum whore” and we have to be limited to answering a yes or no question. Guess what? If it’s a stupid question, then no, we’re not limited. I love how we are getting an influx of 18 year old geniuses on here these days who won’t listen to advice from anyone. Is there something in the water supply causing a proliferation of prodigies that I’m unaware of?[/quote]

Uhh nice job putting shit in my mouth. I wasn’t saying EVERYONE who says that is. I was using that term as a deterrent for you brainless morons who think I’ve never been lectured on the use of anibolics at my age. I’m not limiting it to anything, I’m just telling you what I want. If you can’t handle that then don’t post.

This isn’t the first time I’ve posted in a BBing forum. You’re never limited to answering, regardless of it being a “stupid question” or not. It’s obviously not a stupid question because you can’t answer it. I do listen to advice, I’ve heard the same advice over and over again and I’m still listening. Just because I ask a question that you don’t like doesn’t mean I’m not listening. You have no clue what my intentions are. You haven’t/can’t answer my question, so keep your out-of-shape ass out.

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[quote]conorh wrote:
Thanks Kuz, that’s exactly what I was thinking. Everything about that post of his oozed know-it-all.[/quote]

Ok, when you’re done blowing him, maybe we can get back to the topic at hand.

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Guys, Superdrol has been out for sometime now and consquently, there’s copious feedback on most BB boards across the internet. There are other “designer” compounds of this nature that are cropping up as well, which are equivalent to Superdrol, with a chemical structure “similar” to that of other AS’s (Winstrol to name one).

The feedback so far is that they definitely work on par with the real deal in some cases.

As stated earlier, I would be cognizant of negative blood lipid changes when using Superdrol. This may be common with AS use, I have no idea, but something to think about all the same. For more info., google it and you’ll find the feedback.

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[quote]T-Bone2 wrote:
Cy Willson wrote:
Given the definition in the updated law, I can’t see how this would be legal.

Cy,

Regardless of the legality, how would you rate this compound? Obviously some feedback that it is very useful during a mass phase, but not without some negative side effects, specifically with regard to cholesterol.

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Oh, I couldn’t tell you as I don’t have any experience with it. I remember someone reporting ad claims about the compound being a “hybrid” of two androgens, which while fitting perfectly if we’re talking about plant genetics, does not fit so well in respect to medicinal chemistry.

That’s not to say the product isn’t effective, but some of the material I find on these products, or the ads rather, are ridiculous. In terms of efficacy, one would have to base that primarily on anecdotal data, which from what you’ve gathered, appears to be a useful compound. In short, I don’t doubt that this product is effective, but it should be clear that this is an anabolic steroid.

As far as side effects, being 17 alpha-alkylated, almost exclusively, is associated with hepatotoxicity (perhaps overblown) and a negative alteration in blood lipids, including a substantial decrease in HDL. So, the side effects being noted aren’t of any surprise. In short, treat it as you would any alkylated androgen.

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[quote]tenpi wrote:
Rockscar wrote:
At 18, you should not do it. Playing with T levels at your human growth stage is ill advised. Wait to 21. No lecture required.

No offense, but you dodged my question, and lectured me. Will using the proper T boosters during PCT get my T levels back where they should and keep them that way? It’s a yes or no question.[/quote]

Ok, you little Jackass. I was being nice, and probably should have not answered becase your question was snotty in the first place.

I did not lecture you, read above, plain and simple. If I was lecturing you i’d tell your pubecent little ass to not think about it and it’s stupid to even think about. But instead, I see all you need is a quick BITCH SLAP!

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[quote]tenpi wrote:
conorh wrote:
Thanks Kuz, that’s exactly what I was thinking. Everything about that post of his oozed know-it-all.

Ok, when you’re done blowing him, maybe we can get back to the topic at hand. [/quote]

This guy is GoatsofReach and SizewnotSize… I bet.

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But here’s the real question Cy, since you don’t seem to be dancing around any lectures:

After a 3-4 week Superdrol cycle, would it be possible for an 18 year old to get his T levels back to where they should be during PCT if the proper suplements were used? Please elaborate.

NOTE: For those of you too ignorant to see what I’m doing, I’m conducting research. I’m NOT, however, looking for the same old “you’re too young” lecture. Thank you.

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The fact of the matter is that “they” will tell you anything to get you to buy their products, as long as it doesn’t put them in jail. There are certain companies that will push the limit of what the law will allow. I can think of one that routinely makes pseudo legal products and sells the shit out of them until the FDA forces them to stop. Who’s to say this isn’t the same deal.

Note, I never claimed it actually was illegal or that it didn’t work. All I’m saying is that I wouldn’t be surprised if it turns up on a banned list at some point in the near future.

If you?ve already heard the risks and heard the lecture, then why haven?t you been able to perform a cost:benefit analysis and decide for yourself if this is something you want to try?

Obviously you did no research at all on this site, or you would have a cursory knowledge of T boosters and how they figure into PCT. Further more, the boards, sites or other research sources you?ve looked at must be retarded if they talk about AAS or even prohormones and don?t discuss PCT in depth.

Read everything Cy Willson ever wrote on here for starters.

You want someone to hold your hand and say ?Take this much at this time and then take this for PCT? Well, tough shit. It?s obvious that there isn?t a lot of experience with this product on this board. Furthermore, you?re also obviously aware that no one thinks you need to spend your money on this at 18. I suggest you either bite the bullet and try the shit, using Alpha Male for PCT, or don?t. Do something, just don?t be such a prick about it. Don?t expect everyone to do your thinking and ?research? for you.

I find it hard to believe you couldn?t form a logical regimen for evaluating this product if you had read even half of the AAS articles on this site, not to mention your other ?research?. If you had said ?I?m going to try this at X dosage, for X days with X PCT, what does everyone think?? your response would have been much more positive. Don?t start your query by telling us what dumb forum whores we are and expecting us to spoon feed you information.

Also, don?t blow off Cy Willson’s response regarding the legality of this stuff, he forgot more about steroid biochemistry taking his morning shit than we?ll ever know. Have some respect.