Anyone Gluten Sensitive?

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[quote]gregron wrote:
Just a sample of what I had yesterday that was GF:

Breakfast:
4 eggs
1 cup milk
1 cup oats
3 tbs peanut butter
1 tbs honey

Lunch:
1.5 cups rice
8oz beef
Salsa

Dinner:
Large salad: Kale, Spinach, white corn, cucumber, goat cheese, homemade balsamic
2 large chicken breast (marinated in olive oil, lemon juice and seasonings)

Snacks:
Some fruit here and there plus a few shakes.

All gluteen free and really good for you.

It takes a little getting used to but I don’t even mind it, I actually prefer it… BUT I will have a burger or something out at a Resturant from time to time.[/quote]

Very similar to the way I eat, Greg. My digestive issues are virtually non-existent since cutting out wheat products.

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[quote]gregron wrote:
I don’t see what the big deal is? It’s not like cutting out gluten is a hard thing to do. Just try it out and see how you feel after a couple weeks.

I don’t get why people get so upset whenever going gluten free is suggested?

My wife has a pretty big gluten intolerance (not celiac) and has been GF for almost 3 years now. Since she is GF I eat GF about 90% of the time. She has seen amazing results since going GF and I know a few other who have as well.

My cousins son has autism and since they cut out gluten (he’s almost 6) he has made amazing progress in his development. He’s been talking a lot more and is really coming along (the kid might be a genius)

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I think it upsets people for blanket nutritional recommendations to be made for everyone when the research and anecdotal evidence doesn’t support it.

BTW- I’m not arguing against gluten removal, or that it’s a bad idea as general rule of thumb :wink:

But, we tend to go down this road often demonizing one particular food substance, then what happens all these franken-foods start popping up :wink:

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[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
Just a sample of what I had yesterday that was GF:

Breakfast:
4 eggs
1 cup milk
1 cup oats
3 tbs peanut butter
1 tbs honey

Lunch:
1.5 cups rice
8oz beef
Salsa

Dinner:
Large salad: Kale, Spinach, white corn, cucumber, goat cheese, homemade balsamic
2 large chicken breast (marinated in olive oil, lemon juice and seasonings)

Snacks:
Some fruit here and there plus a few shakes.

All gluteen free and really good for you.

It takes a little getting used to but I don’t even mind it, I actually prefer it… BUT I will have a burger or something out at a Resturant from time to time.[/quote]

Very similar to the way I eat, Greg. My digestive issues are virtually non-existent since cutting out wheat products.
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Yeah my wife was the same way. She had stomach aches all the time and just thought it was normal to feel that way until she went GF. The stomach issues were gone after 3 weeks and within probably 5 months (or so?) she had lost 10lbs without increasing her time in the gym at all.

I honestly didn’t notice any big changes for myself while going GF but I do notice that now when I eat stuff with gluten it just doesn’t taste good like it used to. I don’t really desire it and am not satisfied when I eat it.

I did recently cut out Whey protein and the results have been INCREDIBLE! No more bloating, no more stomach issues, no more gas and no more dominating the toilet 4 times before lunch lol.

I didn’t even see those things as “issues” before I just thought they were normal until I cut out whey.

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[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
I don’t see what the big deal is? It’s not like cutting out gluten is a hard thing to do. Just try it out and see how you feel after a couple weeks.

I don’t get why people get so upset whenever going gluten free is suggested?

My wife has a pretty big gluten intolerance (not celiac) and has been GF for almost 3 years now. Since she is GF I eat GF about 90% of the time. She has seen amazing results since going GF and I know a few other who have as well.

My cousins son has autism and since they cut out gluten (he’s almost 6) he has made amazing progress in his development. He’s been talking a lot more and is really coming along (the kid might be a genius)

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I think it upsets people for blanket nutritional recommendations to be made for everyone when the research and anecdotal evidence doesn’t support it.

BTW- I’m not arguing against gluten removal, or that it’s a bad idea as general rule of thumb :wink:

But, we tend to go down this road often demonizing one particular food substance, then what happens all these franken-foods start popping up ;)[/quote]

Yeah I get that but I’m definitely not demo mixing gluten. I’m just saying try it out for yourself.

I have NEVER met one person who has had negative effects from cutting out gluten. Here are all of the people in my life who have had positive experiences:

My wife: no more GI issues and a loss of 10lbs while not increasing workouts.
My cousins son w/ autism: increased growth, increased speech, increased social interaction (still very shy though)
My nephew: (5 years old) significant drop in “seasonal allergy” symptoms (I.E. sniffling, funny nose, itchy eyes/nose)
Wife’s best friend/maid of honor: no longer gets a skin rash/dryness that she used to get all the time. Slight weight loss as well. (her father actually has MS and she’s trying to get him to go GF)

That’s all that I can think of that have had specific symptomatic relief once cutting out gluten. I’d gluten bad for everyone? No, just like dairy products aren’t bad for everyone but for some people they are. I have never seen anyone have a negative effect from excluding gluten.

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[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
I don’t see what the big deal is? It’s not like cutting out gluten is a hard thing to do. Just try it out and see how you feel after a couple weeks.

I don’t get why people get so upset whenever going gluten free is suggested?

My wife has a pretty big gluten intolerance (not celiac) and has been GF for almost 3 years now. Since she is GF I eat GF about 90% of the time. She has seen amazing results since going GF and I know a few other who have as well.

My cousins son has autism and since they cut out gluten (he’s almost 6) he has made amazing progress in his development. He’s been talking a lot more and is really coming along (the kid might be a genius)

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I think it upsets people for blanket nutritional recommendations to be made for everyone when the research and anecdotal evidence doesn’t support it.

BTW- I’m not arguing against gluten removal, or that it’s a bad idea as general rule of thumb :wink:

But, we tend to go down this road often demonizing one particular food substance, then what happens all these franken-foods start popping up ;)[/quote]

Yeah I get that but I’m definitely not demo mixing gluten. I’m just saying try it out for yourself.

I have NEVER met one person who has had negative effects from cutting out gluten. Here are all of the people in my life who have had positive experiences:

My wife: no more GI issues and a loss of 10lbs while not increasing workouts.
My cousins son w/ autism: increased growth, increased speech, increased social interaction (still very shy though)
My nephew: (5 years old) significant drop in “seasonal allergy” symptoms (I.E. sniffling, funny nose, itchy eyes/nose)
Wife’s best friend/maid of honor: no longer gets a skin rash/dryness that she used to get all the time. Slight weight loss as well. (her father actually has MS and she’s trying to get him to go GF)

That’s all that I can think of that have had specific symptomatic relief once cutting out gluten. I’d gluten bad for everyone? No, just like dairy products aren’t bad for everyone but for some people they are. I have never seen anyone have a negative effect from excluding gluten.[/quote]

Interesting stuff huh. Guess that 30-40% estimate isn’t that far off :wink:

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[quote]gregron wrote:
Yeah my wife was the same way. She had stomach aches all the time and just thought it was normal to feel that way until she went GF. The stomach issues were gone after 3 weeks and within probably 5 months (or so?) she had lost 10lbs without increasing her time in the gym at all.
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Almost my story exactly. I had reduced my symptoms by half by taking digestive enzymes and HCL tablets, but when I went gluten free all my symptoms ceased within a matter of weeks. I kick myself in retrospect because for 5 years I lived with severe bloating every night and a hair trigger gastro-colic reflex and just thought it was normal.

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I will say that my wife would complain of bloating on a daily basis as well. Going GF, along with dairy free (even whey protein) has greatly improved her symptoms.

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since ive decreased my gluten consumption to one meal every 2 or 3 days, ive noticed less bloating every night and little to no flatulence. i always thought the nightly distended gut and “protein farts” were normal for somebody on a ‘bodybuilding’ diet, even while taking 3 digestive enzymes and betaine HCL pills with every meal.

i was the LAST person in the world who thought going gluten free was for everybody. i probably bashed a few posts on here over going gluten free too :wink:

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[quote]wannabebig250 wrote:
since ive decreased my gluten consumption to one meal every 2 or 3 days, ive noticed less bloating every night and little to no flatulence. i always thought the nightly distended gut and “protein farts” were normal for somebody on a ‘bodybuilding’ diet, even while taking 3 digestive enzymes and betaine HCL pills with every meal.

i was the LAST person in the world who thought going gluten free was for everybody. i probably bashed a few posts on here over going gluten free too ;)[/quote]

Ehh, that just makes you human. Most people don’t admit when change their minds, or worse yet, never do change their minds when faced with good evidence.

Personally, I’m somewhat on the other side, was a huge gluten basher, still to a degree, but realize not everyone has to cut it out.

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I got sick one time pretty bad flying on the way to Greece (old airplane food I think) and since then my stomach has been very sensitive. When I let go of my diet for a bit and start eating gluten containing foods (not even that much of it), I will start to get minor spasms in my intestines (not painful, just weird movement), bad bowel movements, and tenderness in my stomach (at one point I thought it was appendicitis but it wasn’t painful, and it went away). Anyways long story short, cutting out gluten gets rid of all these problems for me.

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[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

[quote]wannabebig250 wrote:
since ive decreased my gluten consumption to one meal every 2 or 3 days, ive noticed less bloating every night and little to no flatulence. i always thought the nightly distended gut and “protein farts” were normal for somebody on a ‘bodybuilding’ diet, even while taking 3 digestive enzymes and betaine HCL pills with every meal.

i was the LAST person in the world who thought going gluten free was for everybody. i probably bashed a few posts on here over going gluten free too ;)[/quote]

Ehh, that just makes you human. Most people don’t admit when change their minds, or worse yet, never do change their minds when faced with good evidence.

Personally, I’m somewhat on the other side, was a huge gluten basher, still to a degree, but realize not everyone has to cut it out.[/quote]

lol yea. i was always dead set on the fact i had no issues with gluten because being italian i grew up eating bread and pasta several times a day.

i guess thats why i was so hard headed that the whole gluten proposal was overblown and people were just being silly. guess not!

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[quote]wannabebig250 wrote:

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

[quote]wannabebig250 wrote:
since ive decreased my gluten consumption to one meal every 2 or 3 days, ive noticed less bloating every night and little to no flatulence. i always thought the nightly distended gut and “protein farts” were normal for somebody on a ‘bodybuilding’ diet, even while taking 3 digestive enzymes and betaine HCL pills with every meal.

i was the LAST person in the world who thought going gluten free was for everybody. i probably bashed a few posts on here over going gluten free too ;)[/quote]

Ehh, that just makes you human. Most people don’t admit when change their minds, or worse yet, never do change their minds when faced with good evidence.

Personally, I’m somewhat on the other side, was a huge gluten basher, still to a degree, but realize not everyone has to cut it out.[/quote]

lol yea. i was always dead set on the fact i had no issues with gluten because being italian i grew up eating bread and pasta several times a day.

i guess thats why i was so hard headed that the whole gluten proposal was overblown and people were just being silly. guess not![/quote]

I was talking to Dr. Walsh (he’s had an article or 2 on here) and he said he’s had clients go over to Europe and eat gluten containing foods with no problem. He’s not sure maybe it’s the way it’s produced or stored over here that’s different.

Though I believe anonym on here said that the wheat over there is produced the same, I’m not sure though.

Interesting nonetheless. Would be curious for someone I know who had an issue with gluten and be overseas and try it

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[quote]Patha wrote:
Can’t see your location but if there is a Trader Joes near you, it has gluten free waffles and pancakes that are better than most brands I have tried and much cheaper than them also.

The best bread products are made by “Udis”. They make sandwich bread, buns (burger and hot dog), and even bagels. Slightly toasted these are pretty darn close to the real thing and frankly I don’t miss the originals at all using them instead. I know that you can find Udis at Fred Meyer or Whole Foods.

Also check out the Indigo feed. Chris Shugart recommends some good ideas as indigo users are supposed to stay away from Gluten e.g. english muffins you can pick up at whole foods in the frozen section.

The best part about the gluten hype has made it much better for people with actual sensitivities and celiacs to find good substitutes. I am sure if you look around you will find place that makes gluten free pizza.

Best of luck with your health![/quote]

Thanks for the info. I have a Whole Foods and Trader Joes close by.

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In addition there is the Stem Cell Institute in Panama City, Panama. I believe Governor Rick Perry has traveled there and received adult stem cell work. But for what, I can’t remember. There treatments are not clinical studies and will not be covered by health insurance. I have had e-mail correspondence and a phone conversation with the patient coordinator.

There protocol is different from Dr. Burt’s in the sense that they use fat derived stem cells and cord blood stem cells w/o the use of chemotherapy and immunosuppressant drugs which are a part Dr. Burt’s process. The patient coordinator at The Stem Cell Institute told me I can return to work as soon as I get back in the states. So their process is less invasive with a far easier recovery time. But you will have to pay out of pocket.

I encourage anyone who has or know someone who has an autoimmune disease to check out both protocols. I believe the Stem Cell Institute is working in conjunction with the University of Miami using adult stem cells for spinal cord problems.

Try stemcellresearchfacts.org and type in Stem Cell Institute into a search engine to get up to speed with these amazing treatment options.

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[quote]gregron wrote:

I did recently cut out Whey protein and the results have been INCREDIBLE! No more bloating, no more stomach issues, no more gas and no more dominating the toilet 4 times before lunch lol.

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Don’t tell them what you replaced it with, Greg. DON’T.DO.IT.

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[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

I did recently cut out Whey protein and the results have been INCREDIBLE! No more bloating, no more stomach issues, no more gas and no more dominating the toilet 4 times before lunch lol.

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Don’t tell them what you replaced it with, Greg. DON’T.DO.IT.[/quote]

hahaha mostly with whole foods but I wont say what else lol

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[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

Ehh, that just makes you human. Most people don’t admit when change their minds, or worse yet, never do change their minds when faced with good evidence.

Personally, I’m somewhat on the other side, was a huge gluten basher, still to a degree, but realize not everyone has to cut it out.[/quote]

Well I’ll be. I thought that 30-40% post was same ol’ JF, but good on you.

I seriously doubt anyone would be hurt by ceasing consumption of gluten, but that’s not the point. The point that angers people like me is when some nonsensical magic bullet theory proposes that all diseases of affluence are the result of one thing. A reasonably intelligent individual has to be extremely skeptical of any such proposal, and anecdotes shouldn’t change that. Control for carbohydrate intake, put it in a clinical intervention and then we’ll talk.

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[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
OP, I seriously hope you aren’t getting scammed by some con artist. What exactly is a functional medicine doctor, who performed the “gluten sensitive” tests, and what were they even measuring? Did you read everything you could about that test?

We’d all love to never have to take medication for diseases of affluence, and I commend you for seeking alternative opinions. But then again, some people really do have ailments that are only managed with medication.[/quote]

If you want to learn a bit about functional medicine go to Functionalmedicine.org He did not perform the test but drew the blood that was sent to a laboratory.

I was having 3 to 6 flare-ups a day prior to seeing this doctor. After starting his regimen that fell down to 1 or 2 flare-ups. With somedays not having any at all. Everything is all natural except for a mild antibiotic he had me on for the first 30 days.

My mother passed away last year after a 20 year bout with Parkinson’s disease. All the doctors ever did was prescribe another pill for her which eventually led to wild hallucinations. The more and more I read the more I turn my back on misguided Western medicine when it applies to disease as opposed to acute problems. All they do is treat symptoms rather than the cause.
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Fair. Their goals line up pretty closely to how I think, actually, so I’ll simply say, ‘good luck.’ Preventative medicine should be much more celebrated than it is.

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[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Sorry to hear, Zep.

I’m aware there’s more to it than that, though.

This woman’s vid has had quite an impact on many people.

Fantastic.

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Just got back from the doctors and my gluten sensitivity chart is really bad. So I asked him if I could have Celiac Disease. He said it’s a possibility and that is usually determined through a stomach biopsy. He told me it is a moot point to have it done because either way I need to be gluten free.

Also my Vitamin D level was a 29. It needs to be in the 70-90 range. I’m getting another blood test in a month. He has me supplementing with 10,000 I.U. a day. I’ve been doing so for about 4 weeks now. Apparently Vitamin D is very anti-inflammatory.

I continue to take 4 capsules of Flameout a day. In my first visit he had me bring any medications and supplements I was taking. He was impressed with the DHA level in Flameout and that I was taking Astaxanthin on my own.