Anyone Else Suddenly Start Being Religious After 30?

How can he not?

Doesn’t mix with

If you look closer this time you would see that it was you who has put limitations on God in the first place, not me.

He’s All Powerful and All Knowing, he always gets exactly what he wants every time

If you then look even closer again a second time, you might see that God doesn’t need to contradict himself either - that was just you contradicting yourself all along, inshaAllah

I’d like to see where that appears in the Bible?

But Jonah 3:10 clearly shows where God clearly changed His mind. That drives the Calvinists absolutely bonkers.

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Yes this is why I don’t believe in the bible as uncorrupted. How can God be defeated by Rabbis? This makes a mockery of Monotheism in my opinion.

That was not a defeat. That was VICTORY!

1 Cor 15:55, ā€œO death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?ā€

1 Cor 15:57, ā€œBut thanks to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.ā€

Salman al Farsi was a fire worshipper then he became a Christian and finally he accepted Islam. He constantly searched for a pure Monotheism, was enslaved, didn’t care about anything but worshiping one God alone.

Once you accept Monotheism and the theological and philosophical implications of it, you can never go back to anything that associates partners with God without dissonance. If God can be wrong he can’t be God. If God can be caught in a contradiction he can’t be God.

By saying he is not bound by logic or science?

Don’t tell God what He can or cannot be.

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I agree God is bound by logic, but science is different.

sciĀ·ence

noun

1. 1.

the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation, experimentation, and testing of theories against evidence obtained.

God cannot be bound by a study. We are trying to figure out how things work that God created.

Bound by whose logic? Human logic?

How can god be bound if he’s all powerful?

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Let’s assume I know everything. If I do something illogical, I would say that I made a mistake.

God is all knowing, and thus would not make a mistake. Thus God can be said to be ā€œboundā€ by logic.

I am open for you giving me an example of how God could be illogical.

Whose logic is god bound by?

I suppose I am a logic purest. And probably more logic minded than any one you know. I just don’t believe anyone owns logic.

So logic exists outside of god?

I would believe that nothing is outside of GOD

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Do you believe god is bound by logic? Can he do things humans would find illogical?

Its impossible for man but with GOD nothing is impossible

It was also explained to me once and i am paraphrasing

in order for GOD to be the creator and all knowing…he has to be outside of TIME, SPACE and MATTER

No, by contradicting yourself, by misapplying logic and limits

Not failed, instead All Powerful
Not experiment, instead All Knowing

Shirk not necessary, He doesn’t need a son