Anyone Else Suddenly Start Being Religious After 30?

Im not saying he existed therefore true claim of divinity. You are changing the entire conversation.

I agree with you. I just don’t see the merit of pointing out that we aren’t sure that either Jesus or Plato existed, but perhaps there is more evidence of Jesus.

Not necessarily, it could all be a simulation started 20 seconds ago

My point is this is what is called tactical scepticism. Hyper sceptic of all claims for certain things. Its a very common thing. For example patriotism has no logical foundation and it was certainly artificially created by modern nation states as a way to destroy the feudal order. But if you went up to the average atheist and told them love of country was as metaphysical as belief in God they would not internalize that or have a logical reason why they love America but reject other forms of metaphysical idealism.

Google Prester John.

Agree. Even among religious people. I’d say most people make exceptions for their religion, or no religion generally.

They could have good reasons to be patriotic, or not so good reasons (given they are patriotic). Good (and demonstrable) reasons would be things the country provides to them.

Can God make a rock too heavy for Him to lift?

But it isn’t.

What does that have to do with rape or taxes? I say rape is objectively wrong because no one wants to get raped. Not even rapists. Rapists don’t believe rape is right or good; they just don’t bother to care about that or, they do it because it is wrong.

If there was something God couldn’t do he would cease to be God. So the question is what is called a logical absurdity. The question is invalid. Can God create a square circle? No because a square can’t be circle. That isn’t a challenge to omnipotence it is a question that is logically absurd.

Can God make himself not God? Again if he amde hismelf not God he couldn’t be God because God can’t be contingent and if he is then he ceases to be God. And God is eternal so that is a logical absurdity.

So to simplify, let us give another example.

You have a gun that can shoot through anything. And a shield that can protect from anything. What happens when you shoot that shield with that gun?

Answer: there is a contradiction in question. Either gun can shoot through anything or shield can protect from anything. They cannot coexist. This would mean that one of the statements is not true.

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God is not bound by logic or science. Just because you can’t see a way doesn’t mean He can’t make one.

A square circle can’t exist that is a paradox. This is fundamentally the issue. Asking can God not exist is again a paradox as he is eternal and ever living. This is actually the pillar of the question. Can God create something that makes him cease to be all powerful? God is all powerful so how can such a thing exist?

Idk man! You started comparing rape to taxes! I never mentioned rape. You said anything we don’t like doing is wrong. I said i disagree, i hate taxes but they’re not wrong. I merely disagreed with your definition. Jeez,
Then you kept bringing up rape. Stop :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Doesn’t mix with

Quran 2:42. And mix not truth with falsehood, nor conceal the truth while you know

Funny how they mix the arguments when it suits them isn’t it. Need a haq and batil detector.

Whether a particular portion is corrupted or not is open to guessing and interpretation

You might be interested in a book:

MUHAMMAD IN THE BIBLE by
PROF. DAVID DAVID BENJAMIN KELDANI BENJAMIN KELDANI
B.D., a Roman Catholic (BISHOP OF URAMIAH )

I read it but it was mostly over my head, I’m not very familiar with the Bible. You might enjoy it

I think it touches on this verse you’ve raised, I tried checking, but couldn’t remember where it would be

I think he could be amongst those that would benefit from reminders

Quran 51:55

My aim is to tire confuse and weaken the petty, fearful, animalistic side of man. Not to harm or destroy it

This way was sent as a guidance and a mercy, that’s also how it spreads

Thanks for the offer and information. But if I am reading spiritual literature it will be the Bible, or apologies by others who believe the Bible. I consider myself a student of the Bible who can never graduate. I believe in the inerrancy of the Bible, so why investigate literature that doesn’t?

I think you could be convinced that the Qur’an came from God. You have to believe the Torah and pslams and Gospel are from God to be a Muslim. The message of Monotheism actually makes so much sense if you accept Islam as another revealed scripture from God.

This way you don’t have the contradiction of the trinity and it is the same core message given to Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad. All of the same Prophets all of the same stories. People were given the message to worship God alone and to be righteous and do good deeds. People corrupted the message, they began to worship messengers. Islam claims for itself the final revelation and the seal of the Prophets.

And you will certainly find that the people most hostile against the believers are the Jews and the ones who ascribe partners to Allah. You will certainly find that the closest of them in friendship with the believers are those who say, “We are Christians.”That is because among them there are priests and monks, and because they are not arrogant.

I consider myself the same with the Quran, I can relate

You obviously don’t have to. It could make sense if a similar student were to look for errors in the investigated literature and/or using it as (an) opening(s) to spread the word