You made the analogy.
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Neither do I
Plato and Jesus both may have existed. Believing Plato existed and wrote some philosophy shouldnāt require the same level of evidence to believe as Jesus existed, was the son of God, died for our sins, rose from the dead, and ascended into heaven.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Being wrong about Plato existing doesnāt really matter. Some other guy may have wrote his works. Being wrong about Jesus has a lot of downstream effects. Our beliefs often impact our actions. The former being a wrong belief doesnāt matter much, canāt say that for the latter.
A. Prove you exist to me.
B. You made the case there was more evidence for Jesus having existed than figures like Plato and Aristotle. Thatās uneducated.
One the dumbest arguments uneducated people make is to claim we have no evidence or proof someone existed. I never met George Washington; so he must not have existed. The real imbecility behind it is that if these people never existed, it would mean that thousands of years ago some fraudster planned for just this moment. And he fooled all of the people along the way over those thousands of years. Like those who wrote about Aristotle a few years after he died. I guess they were all in on the joke.
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Youve completely misunderstood the point. I am saying that evidence for most secular historical figures is far weaker than both jesus and Mohammad. Yet this was the above point being made for why believing in those religions is dumb.
Aristotle and Plato have far less evidence but ive never met an atheist hyper sceptical about them and thus forms or Platonism etc on its face due to that.
But it isnāt weaker.
its far far weaker than the evidence Muhammad existed. We have actual letters written by Muhammads scribe to the Byzantine emperor and the emperors response. We have accounts of foreign dignitaries meeting him and writing to the Pope about him etc. We have tonnes of evidence there isnāt any doubt the man existed regardless of religious claims.
What evidence do we have that Plato existed?
I disagree
Experimentation and All Knowing donāt mix either
Itās God so anything is possible.
No this is fallacious. Asking can God create a square circle isnāt to say ha he isnāt omnipotent if he canāt, its a logical impossibility. Its to fundamentally misunderstand logical implications of speech.
Yes, because he was illiterate. So even your example uses second hand evidence.
Why do you even know that name? Figure that out and you have your evidence.
That puts a limit on God.
So a random person wrote pretending to do so for muhammad and he was able to not only get into the Byzantine court but through to meet the fucking emperor himself and given a response with the emperors seal?
Like Bro this is fucking delusional and you know it lol.
No it doesnāt it puts a limit on intelligence. If I ask God how does the colour red feel and he says it canāt feel thats not a lack of his knowledge its that the question is logically incoherent.
As the limit of āsā (side of the square) and ārā (radius of the circle) approach zero, the circle and square approach the same shape.
False. You did. But hereās my last attempt to explain what I mean, and Iāll even use an analogy 
You: ā-1,000 is an integer, and itās way less than zero. I think we can all agree that all integers are less than zero.ā
Me: āI donāt agree at all. Numbers like 7 or 9 are not less than zero.ā
You: āOh, so you think 7 is equal to -1,000?ā
Like what? 
I donāt think you can get even two people to agree on the above.
Is that what your analogy is trying to show?
Number classifications
- Natural numbers
- Whole numbers
- Integers
- Rational numbers
- Irrational numbers
- Imaginary numbers
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well said
Im not saying anything about jesus being God. I am saying the evidence he existed is better than that for plato.
Sure, but then it doesnāt matter much if we exclude the being part of the Trinity / God.
We have far better evidence of Jim Jones existing (who claimed to be divine / a reincarnation of Jesus, Buddha, etc). The person existing and leading a religious movement isnāt my hangup. Itās the other claims about being divine or having super powers that I am not convinced about.