Bolt:
Hillary is also really putting on a concerted effort to appeal more to women. She is NOT taking their vote as being a “given”.
The feeling was that she had come off a little more “harsh and hardened” to women in the 2008 Primary race.
I guess time will tell if it is really working.
Mufasa
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Hillary’s sophists have also said she wants to “weave gender into matters of economic fairness and opportunity”.[/quote]
Sure, but that’s not inconsistent with a “purple” message.
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
Bolt:
Hillary is also really putting on a concerted effort to appeal more to women. She is NOT taking their vote as being a “given”.
The feeling was that she had come off a little more “harsh and hardened” to women in the 2008 Primary race.
I guess time will tell if it is really working.
Mufasa[/quote]
I think you’re right, and she also has to compensate for the loss of women who are now willing to vote for yhe GOP (even if they aren’t joining that party).
But I think the “first woman” aspect will win her a lot of votes. And I think the whole “purple warrior” theme is a very smart move to expressly distance herself from Obama, which is past time to do.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
You’re not necessarily wrong but the problem is history. Moderate Republicans just don’t win presidencies.
Romney
McCain
Dole
GHWB
Ford
The ones that do win run as conservatives: Reagan and GWB.
The '88 election of GHWB doesn’t really count in my opinion because his opponent, Dukakis, was an absolute caricature of a moronic, sissy-pants ding-dong cartoon character.[/quote]
Your list has a notable omission - how did Barry Goldwater do?
And Reagan wasn’t nearly as right-wing as those who now invoke his name would like - he raised taxes, supported amnesty, and if memory serves, was supportive of an assault weapons ban post-presidency. So, in a current primary, he’d be attacked as to the left of…Jeb Bush.
He was also wildly successful because he could connect with and get the votes of the so-called Reagan Democrats. Reagan could pierce traditional electoral lines. I don’t see that happening with the right-wingers in the mix now.
The only way a Cruz or a Paul wins a general election is on a theory that there are a bunch of dormant right-wing voters who keep staying at home because of moderate candidates, but who will turn out in legions if a true “conservative” is nominated. I don’t buy it. If they didn’t turn out to cast a vote against the hated socialist Obama - the vote of a lifetime to save the Republic from his machinations - they aren’t going to rally for a Ted Cruz or Rand Paul.
[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
If they didn’t turn out to cast a vote against the hated socialist Obama - the vote of a lifetime to save the Republic from his machinations - they aren’t going to rally for a Ted Cruz or Rand Paul.
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[quote]Mufasa wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
I would love to see some ex-military person run. I feel like that should be a requirement to hold a federal position. Maybe that’s too logical for the masses to elect someone with actually leadership experience. [/quote]
David Petraeus was certainly on a lot of people’s list. (Including my own).
His resignation was NOT the fault of the President. He is a Man of Honor whom felt that resignation was the best course, and that he had let HIMSELF down.
I believe him.
Mufasa
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While reading up on Patraeus, I saw this guy who criticized DP as having never been in shooting combat. A maverick for sure taking on the Army Chiefs, but we could use someone willing to confront the idiocies that seem to be growing.
Reagan to the left of Jeb Bush? Reagan wouldn’t have pandered to illegal immigrants(despite signing off on an amnesty for strong border deal that didn’t deliver on the later). He wouldn’t trash Americans and say they’re lazy and immigrants work harder and do jobs Americans won’t do and so on. You should read some of the stuff Jeb wrote in that book and what he’s been saying. He’s a puke. If a Democrat was running against him and I thought they might be not as bad as Jeb on immigration I’d support them over him for sure. What happened to the moderate Democrats anyway? They’re all radical leftists today.