Any Church Goers?

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[quote]simpstr1 wrote:

[quote]CSEagles1694 wrote:
Me and Jesus are tight. I go to church, but don’t like to follow any set religion, per se. I’m the kind of guy who was completely changed by the “Hate Religion, But Love Jesus” thing. My church is non-denominational, so we preach the gospel of Jesus and follow his teachings.

I don’t like a lot of rules and guidelines and do-this-and-you’re-going-to-hell type of thing. I believe that Christ is my one and only savior, he died for me and the rest of humanity, and that he’s the reason why I’m here today. Plain and simple; not much to it.

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Simpstr - I am not trying to be an ass…

but havent you stated in these threads that you love to have out-of-wedlock sex?

how does this coincide with a relationship to Christ?

srsly - I am not trying to judge, just curious as to how everybody can justify being a little sinful.

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[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]simpstr1 wrote:

[quote]CSEagles1694 wrote:
Me and Jesus are tight. I go to church, but don’t like to follow any set religion, per se. I’m the kind of guy who was completely changed by the “Hate Religion, But Love Jesus” thing. My church is non-denominational, so we preach the gospel of Jesus and follow his teachings.

I don’t like a lot of rules and guidelines and do-this-and-you’re-going-to-hell type of thing. I believe that Christ is my one and only savior, he died for me and the rest of humanity, and that he’s the reason why I’m here today. Plain and simple; not much to it.

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[quote]Edgy wrote:
Simpstr - I am not trying to be an ass…

but havent you stated in these threads that you love to have out-of-wedlock sex?

how does this coincide with a relationship to Christ?

srsly - I am not trying to judge, just curious as to how everybody can justify being a little sinful.[/quote]

I did and do. I’m a work in progress. I don’t pretend to be perfect in anyway shape or form.

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I dont go to church,I do believe in the higher power as creator and maintainer of the universe.This conclusion I draw from the arguement from design.
I have no religion as faith is not my thing.

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[quote]simpstr1 wrote:

[quote]Edgy wrote:
Simpstr - I am not trying to be an ass…

but havent you stated in these threads that you love to have out-of-wedlock sex?

how does this coincide with a relationship to Christ?

srsly - I am not trying to judge, just curious as to how everybody can justify being a little sinful.[/quote]

I did and do. I’m a work in progress. I don’t pretend to be perfect in anyway shape or form. [/quote]

thanks for not taking offense to that question, Simp -

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[quote]Edgy wrote:

[quote]simpstr1 wrote:

[quote]Edgy wrote:
Simpstr - I am not trying to be an ass…

but havent you stated in these threads that you love to have out-of-wedlock sex?

how does this coincide with a relationship to Christ?

srsly - I am not trying to judge, just curious as to how everybody can justify being a little sinful.[/quote]

I did and do. I’m a work in progress. I don’t pretend to be perfect in anyway shape or form. [/quote]

thanks for not taking offense to that question, Simp - [/quote]

YW! I’m far from where I need to be for even further from where I was.

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[quote]simpstr1 wrote:

[quote]Edgy wrote:

[quote]simpstr1 wrote:

[quote]Edgy wrote:
Simpstr - I am not trying to be an ass…

but havent you stated in these threads that you love to have out-of-wedlock sex?

how does this coincide with a relationship to Christ?

srsly - I am not trying to judge, just curious as to how everybody can justify being a little sinful.[/quote]

I did and do. I’m a work in progress. I don’t pretend to be perfect in anyway shape or form. [/quote]

thanks for not taking offense to that question, Simp - [/quote]

YW! I’m far from where I need to be for even further from where I was.[/quote]

As are we all who walk with Christ. We can’t NOT be sinners. That’s where the gift of grace comes in. Go to Him truly repentant each time we falter, and we’re covered.

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[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]simpstr1 wrote:

[quote]Edgy wrote:

[quote]simpstr1 wrote:

[quote]Edgy wrote:
Simpstr - I am not trying to be an ass…

but havent you stated in these threads that you love to have out-of-wedlock sex?

how does this coincide with a relationship to Christ?

srsly - I am not trying to judge, just curious as to how everybody can justify being a little sinful.[/quote]

I did and do. I’m a work in progress. I don’t pretend to be perfect in anyway shape or form. [/quote]

thanks for not taking offense to that question, Simp - [/quote]

YW! I’m far from where I need to be for even further from where I was.[/quote]

As are we all who walk with Christ. We can’t NOT be sinners. That’s where the gift of grace comes in. Go to Him truly repentant each time we falter, and we’re covered. [/quote]

but to sin, and to know that you are sinning, and repent. yet do the same sin again…

is that part of grace? or is that an intent to sin?

and isnt an intent to sin the same as sinning?

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[quote]simpstr1 wrote:
…any church goers in here? anybody belief in a higher power?[/quote]

Well, not exactly a church.

But yes, I do worship the G-d of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob, whom I understand Christians to worship, as well.

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[quote]Christine wrote:
I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.

Mohandas Gandhi

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Interestingly, I like the Gandhi that is the public relations Ghandi.

The actual real-life Ghandi who sought to ally with Nazi Germany and encouraged the extermination of my people, however, was not a prize.

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Regarding Christians, I like serious Christians who know their Bible, as written, and not as read through the lens of some of the nastier historical theologies.

There are obvious theological differences, but the evangelical Christians are great friends to my people and their love of G-d and desire to obey Him is very real and wonderful.

Indeed, some of the best people I’ve met.

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[quote]Edgy wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]simpstr1 wrote:

[quote]Edgy wrote:

[quote]simpstr1 wrote:

[quote]Edgy wrote:
Simpstr - I am not trying to be an ass…

but havent you stated in these threads that you love to have out-of-wedlock sex?

how does this coincide with a relationship to Christ?

srsly - I am not trying to judge, just curious as to how everybody can justify being a little sinful.[/quote]

I did and do. I’m a work in progress. I don’t pretend to be perfect in anyway shape or form. [/quote]

thanks for not taking offense to that question, Simp - [/quote]

YW! I’m far from where I need to be for even further from where I was.[/quote]

As are we all who walk with Christ. We can’t NOT be sinners. That’s where the gift of grace comes in. Go to Him truly repentant each time we falter, and we’re covered. [/quote]

but to sin, and to know that you are sinning, and repent. yet do the same sin again…

is that part of grace? or is that an intent to sin?

and isnt an intent to sin the same as sinning?
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You’re right, Edgy. It’s definitely NOT a free-pass! The things we battle alone are WAY easier to overcome with Christ. If you’re truly a follower, He’ll reside in you and these temptations are easier to resist, if not completely lose the desire for. It IS a process. It’s not always easy, because the flesh is so lustful in so many ways. That’s why it’s important to have an open dialogue with Him daily. No need to bow down, hands clasped to make yourself heard. Faith is KNOWING He’s there when things aren’t going well. We’re often so blinded by what’s before us, we fail to see that He’s right next to us.

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[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Christine wrote:
Nope.

I believe that one only needs rules if they have no internal moral compass.

Empathy doesn’t require religion.[/quote]

So empathy is the purpose of life? And define “morals” or which direction is best. Something shapes yours as well as, say, Ted Bundy’s.[/quote]

Very asute.

The Nazis (to use the easy example) thought they were doing great things that fit their moral compass.

There is an objective measure of good and evil in this world. G-d is a very forgiving father and grades on a curve. He does, however, expect you to put your name on the paper and give it a try. With His help, you will (eventually) suceed.

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[quote]ZMorris83 wrote:
Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’
38 This is the first and greatest commandment.
39 And the second is like it: â??Love your neighbor as yourself.’
40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.â??

Lot of people forget this. [/quote]

That’s actually a summary of the Law originally formulated by Rabbi Hillel a couple hundred years before Yeshua of Nazareth riled you guys all up.

I would also note that the Law of Noah is what gentiles are required to follow, not the Levitical and other stuff that seems to hang you guys up so bad. Those rules are required for Jewish folk only (although others are welcome to follow as there is great value in the reasons behind them).

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[quote]Marzouk wrote:
Every Rabbi is rich as fuck and deals jewels on the side.
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This is true. We also control the world banking system, send sharks to Eqypt to eat tourists, and have spy vultures.

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[quote]Edgy wrote:
but to sin, and to know that you are sinning, and repent. yet do the same sin again…

is that part of grace? or is that an intent to sin?

and isnt an intent to sin the same as sinning?
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Your objection is that of those who use G-d’s forgiveness as a “license” to sin.

It’s an old, old concern, and many Rabbis have struggled with that issue, as do Christians, I suppose.

From the Jewish perspective, the belief is their will likely be worldly consequences from such bad acts, and perhaps other-worldly consequences from such acts, but you will ultimately be forgiven if your repentance is real.

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I only believe in what I experience. Part of this is of course inevitably religious culture around me, but no I don’t believe in god.

I don’t go around trying to change people and I expect others to do the same. I don’t think people should be going around doing things “in the name of god”. Some people live like that, fuck. Make that groups of people and we are a step away from terrorism.

Bottom line, I see religion more as a culture and a way of not forgetting your childhood values rather than something pure. It’s something you feel, and you fuck up when you try and define it.

Make sense?

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[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]Edgy wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]simpstr1 wrote:

[quote]Edgy wrote:

[quote]simpstr1 wrote:

[quote]Edgy wrote:
Simpstr - I am not trying to be an ass…

but havent you stated in these threads that you love to have out-of-wedlock sex?

how does this coincide with a relationship to Christ?

srsly - I am not trying to judge, just curious as to how everybody can justify being a little sinful.[/quote]

I did and do. I’m a work in progress. I don’t pretend to be perfect in anyway shape or form. [/quote]

thanks for not taking offense to that question, Simp - [/quote]

YW! I’m far from where I need to be for even further from where I was.[/quote]

As are we all who walk with Christ. We can’t NOT be sinners. That’s where the gift of grace comes in. Go to Him truly repentant each time we falter, and we’re covered. [/quote]

but to sin, and to know that you are sinning, and repent. yet do the same sin again…

is that part of grace? or is that an intent to sin?

and isnt an intent to sin the same as sinning?
[/quote]

You’re right, Edgy. It’s definitely NOT a free-pass! The things we battle alone are WAY easier to overcome with Christ. If you’re truly a follower, He’ll reside in you and these temptations are easier to resist, if not completely lose the desire for. It IS a process. It’s not always easy, because the flesh is so lustful in so many ways. That’s why it’s important to have an open dialogue with Him daily. No need to bow down, hands clasped to make yourself heard. Faith is KNOWING He’s there when things aren’t going well. We’re often so blinded by what’s before us, we fail to see that He’s right next to us.

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Very true…sometimes he will remove people in your path that you think you need to have in your path but you really don’t. I have FWB’s (I’m human)and lately they’ve been either fading away or deciding that they don’t want to do it anymore. I had to ask myself “is there something that I’ve done?” but I think its just GOD removing those that aren’t good for me, those that don’t have my best interest at heart so I may not be strong enough to stop but HE will stop it for me.
Make sense?
Sorry if that was TMI

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[quote]pushharder wrote:
Funny thing how that Ghandi is so…so…so unknown. Those who quote him might want to study a little more about the man before they readily use his convenient “eloquence.”

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Well, they’re shallow thinkers. If it doesn’t fit on a bumpersticker, it’s too complicated.

Maybe they could try this quote, from one of Ghandi’s many letters to his self-described “greatest friend” Adolph Hitler:

“We have no doubt about your bravery or devotion to your fatherland, nor do we believe that you are the monster described by your opponents [the Jewish people].”

Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi of India to Adolph Hitler of Germany