Another Mass Grave Found

[quote]John S. wrote:
Tokoya wrote:
John,

I think that Lixy would appreciate you requesting his permission to post anything to do with the Holocaust.

Evidently, Lixy is the (self appointed?) definitive authority on what constitutes legitimate material for the politics forum.

I love that peevish self-importance he projects.

Your right, I forgot Lixy was the Deity of this forum. Please forgive me Lixy.[/quote]

John,

You can make it up to him by posting something more up his alley of expertise. Anything negative about the US or Israel. That will put you two on good footing again.

[quote]Tokoya wrote:
John S. wrote:
Tokoya wrote:
John,

I think that Lixy would appreciate you requesting his permission to post anything to do with the Holocaust.

Evidently, Lixy is the (self appointed?) definitive authority on what constitutes legitimate material for the politics forum.

I love that peevish self-importance he projects.

Your right, I forgot Lixy was the Deity of this forum. Please forgive me Lixy.

John,

You can make it up to him by posting something more up his alley of expertise. Anything negative about the US or Israel. That will put you two on good footing again. [/quote]

I would, but me being the Right wing nut job that I am, the only thing left to say is FUCK YOU LIXY.

[quote]lixy wrote:
Oh, he has every right to. But, it’s not about what he posts. It’s rather about how the posting is done.

Simply pasting an article gives absolutely no added value whatsoever. I prefer a thread that asks pertinent questions and goes straight to the point. Threads that are purely informative are rather low value. Look at the ensuing discussion for proof. I see congratulations but no debate.

Forum posting 101: Respect the time of others. Quote only the most relevant bits of articles and include your own insight. These are not rules written in stone. They are merely guidelines to make the experience more constructive and enjoyable.[/quote]

Says the guy who’s only been here a few months.

Thanks for making the rules. It was total chaos out here before you showed up.

[quote]tGunslinger wrote:
Says the guy who’s only been here a few months.

Thanks for making the rules. It was total chaos out here before you showed up.[/quote]

Mere etiquette.

Look at the level of discussion in this thread or Zap’s one where he relates a bit of trivia about Belgians and caterpillars. Contrast with the threads where a thought provoking point is stated by the OP.

Purely informative threads have little to no value.

[quote]lixy wrote:
tGunslinger wrote:
Says the guy who’s only been here a few months.

Thanks for making the rules. It was total chaos out here before you showed up.

Mere etiquette.

Look at the level of discussion in this thread or Zap’s one where he relates a bit of trivia about Belgians and caterpillars. Contrast with the threads where a thought provoking point is stated by the OP.

Purely informative threads have little to no value.[/quote]

But if it was a muslim mass grave you would be singing my praises. This was not for discussion since there is nothing to discuss im just stating they are finding more of these graves.

[quote]John S. wrote:
lixy wrote:
tGunslinger wrote:
Says the guy who’s only been here a few months.

Thanks for making the rules. It was total chaos out here before you showed up.

Mere etiquette.

Look at the level of discussion in this thread or Zap’s one where he relates a bit of trivia about Belgians and caterpillars. Contrast with the threads where a thought provoking point is stated by the OP.

Purely informative threads have little to no value.

But if it was a muslim mass grave you would be singing my praises. This was not for discussion since there is nothing to discuss im just stating they are finding more of these graves.[/quote]

John, you are really pushing your luck here. Lixy has just stated above that purely informative posts have “little to no value”.

Try something a bit more anti-capitalist and anti-American, and watch the “value” of your post skyrocket…

Evidently, there is a new sheriff in town.

[quote]Tokoya wrote:
John S. wrote:
lixy wrote:
tGunslinger wrote:
Says the guy who’s only been here a few months.

Thanks for making the rules. It was total chaos out here before you showed up.

Mere etiquette.

Look at the level of discussion in this thread or Zap’s one where he relates a bit of trivia about Belgians and caterpillars. Contrast with the threads where a thought provoking point is stated by the OP.

Purely informative threads have little to no value.

But if it was a muslim mass grave you would be singing my praises. This was not for discussion since there is nothing to discuss im just stating they are finding more of these graves.

John, you are really pushing your luck here. Lixy has just stated above that purely informative posts have “little to no value”.

Try something a bit more anti-capitalist and anti-American, and watch the “value” of your post skyrocket…

Evidently, there is a new sheriff in town. [/quote]

HAHA

[quote]lixy wrote:
tGunslinger wrote:
Says the guy who’s only been here a few months.

Thanks for making the rules. It was total chaos out here before you showed up.

Mere etiquette.

Look at the level of discussion in this thread or Zap’s one where he relates a bit of trivia about Belgians and caterpillars. Contrast with the threads where a thought provoking point is stated by the OP.

Purely informative threads have little to no value.[/quote]

Such as your thread titled “Bush and Hitler” or some such nonsense?

You break Godwin’s law with the title and you are preaching etiquette?

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Such as your thread titled “Bush and Hitler” or some such nonsense? [/quote]

You mean “Hitler, Bush, and Torture”?

http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1593524

You can’t tell me that you’d consider it purely informative, or that the level of debate in it got as low and useless as the one on this thread or on your “caterpillar” rant.

You might disagree with what Sullivan wrote, but you can’t accuse me of simply pasting the whole thing without giving it any added value.

[quote]lixy wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Such as your thread titled “Bush and Hitler” or some such nonsense?

You mean “Hitler, Bush, and Torture”?

http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1593524

You can’t tell me that you’d consider it purely informative, or that the level of debate in it got as low and useless as the one on this thread or on your “caterpillar” rant…[/quote]

Show me my “rant”. It was a humorous article and I did not feel any commentary was necessary.

Go back to your trolling.

[quote]pat36 wrote:
This should please Just the Facts and Wreckless. That is unless the holocaust didn’t happen.[/quote]

Because I like you, here’s an easy $200,000 for you…

The National Association of Forensic Criminologists, Archeologists, Skeptics and Historians

$200,000 REWARD - For locating JUST ONE of the alleged “HUGE MASS GRAVES” OF TREBLINKA

You must SCIENTIFICALLY - FORENSICALLY prove the grave’s EXACT location, its EXACT dimensions and its EXACT volumetric density. The cremated remains must total AT LEAST one percent of the alleged mass murder.

Find only ONE PERCENT of the remains of 870,000 people – get $200,000
http://www.nafcash.com/

Let us know when you have the money.

[quote]JustTheFacts wrote:
pat36 wrote:
This should please Just the Facts and Wreckless. That is unless the holocaust didn’t happen.

Because I like you, here’s an easy $200,000 for you…

The National Association of Forensic Criminologists, Archeologists, Skeptics and Historians

$200,000 REWARD - For locating JUST ONE of the alleged “HUGE MASS GRAVES” OF TREBLINKA

You must SCIENTIFICALLY - FORENSICALLY prove the grave’s EXACT location, its EXACT dimensions and its EXACT volumetric density. The cremated remains must total AT LEAST one percent of the alleged mass murder.

Find only ONE PERCENT of the remains of 870,000 people – get $200,000
http://www.nafcash.com/

Let us know when you have the money.[/quote]

I know you like me, I am not Jewish.

[quote]JustTheFacts wrote:
pat36 wrote:
This should please Just the Facts and Wreckless. That is unless the holocaust didn’t happen.

Because I like you, here’s an easy $200,000 for you…

The National Association of Forensic Criminologists, Archeologists, Skeptics and Historians

$200,000 REWARD - For locating JUST ONE of the alleged “HUGE MASS GRAVES” OF TREBLINKA

You must SCIENTIFICALLY - FORENSICALLY prove the grave’s EXACT location, its EXACT dimensions and its EXACT volumetric density. The cremated remains must total AT LEAST one percent of the alleged mass murder.

Find only ONE PERCENT of the remains of 870,000 people – get $200,000
http://www.nafcash.com/

Let us know when you have the money.[/quote]

Hey JTF, I have a assignment for you, Look up the camp they are trying to call out.

[quote]pat36 wrote:
I know you like me, I am not Jewish.[/quote]

Coulda’ fooled me.

[quote]John S. wrote:
Hey JTF, I have a assignment for you, Look up the camp they are trying to call out.[/quote]

I have. So what are you trying to get at?

[quote]JustTheFacts wrote:
John S. wrote:
Hey JTF, I have a assignment for you, Look up the camp they are trying to call out.

I have. So what are you trying to get at?[/quote]

Then you know what they did to the bodies at that camp. If you know that then you should know that site is full of crap. You realize they burned every body.

[quote]John S. wrote:
Then you know what they did to the bodies at that camp. If you know that then you should know that site is full of crap. You realize they burned every body.[/quote]

And if you actually looked at the site, they explain that nonsense fully. The bodies were supposedly burned using wood on “open air” grates as told by “eye witnesses”.

Here in a simple visual experiment, it takes 135 lbs of wood just to cremate a single 12.5 lb leg of lamb on an open air grate.
Video #23 - http://www.codoh.com/video/onethird.html

Also for a little more reference:

Electric funeral pyres may be the answer to India’s shortage of wood for cremations, but they are not popular. The 21,000 Hindus who die each day consume 18-million pounds of wood, or 560-acres of forest.

[i]A formal Hindu cremation - in which a dead body is burned for more than six hours in a 1m-high open-air pyre - can consume more than 400kg [882 lbs] of wood to reduce the body to ashes[i]
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21892724-1702,00.html

So imagine:
“The ash content of a human body makes up about 5.6% of the body’s weight; given a 132 lb. body, this comes to 7.3 lbs. The ashes from the 875,000 burned bodies would thus have weighed 6,387,500 lbs. The total quantity of ashes - wood ashes plus human ashes - would therefore have weighed almost 4,000 metric tons, or 8.6 million pounds, all of which (according to the witnesses) were then mixed with the soil and thrown back into the pits.”

So you seem to be implying that ALL traces of this crime are “vanished”, but in reality, the cremated remains of 875,000 people is still around 3000 tons – all buried inside the perimeters of the camp.

This capacity crowd times 9 - inside a 22 acre camp

Even more ridiculous is that we are to suppose these people were first buried for a few months before they were all dug back up and burned, and then reburied.

Not only did 3 weeks of ground penetrating radar analysis and core samples not show any mass graves, the radar analysis didn’t even show that the sediment layers had EVER even been disturbed as would if you had just simply dug a hole and filled it back in again.

The whole gist of the challenge is that if the Treblinka story is true, you should have a hard time NOT finding evidence. You should literally be able to stick your hand into the soil anywhere in the camp and pull out evidence.

I find it entirely odd that ANYONE would be offended by such a reasonable request as to find 1% of these astronomical amount of remains and collect $200,000 to boot.

[quote]JustTheFacts wrote:
John S. wrote:
Then you know what they did to the bodies at that camp. If you know that then you should know that site is full of crap. You realize they burned every body.

And if you actually looked at the site, they explain that nonsense fully. The bodies were supposedly burned using wood on “open air” grates as told by “eye witnesses”.

Here in a simple visual experiment, it takes 135 lbs of wood just to cremate a single 12.5 lb leg of lamb on an open air grate.
Video #23 - http://www.codoh.com/video/onethird.html

Also for a little more reference:

Electric funeral pyres may be the answer to India’s shortage of wood for cremations, but they are not popular. The 21,000 Hindus who die each day consume 18-million pounds of wood, or 560-acres of forest.

[i]A formal Hindu cremation - in which a dead body is burned for more than six hours in a 1m-high open-air pyre - can consume more than 400kg [882 lbs] of wood to reduce the body to ashes[i]
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21892724-1702,00.html

So imagine:
“The ash content of a human body makes up about 5.6% of the body’s weight; given a 132 lb. body, this comes to 7.3 lbs. The ashes from the 875,000 burned bodies would thus have weighed 6,387,500 lbs. The total quantity of ashes - wood ashes plus human ashes - would therefore have weighed almost 4,000 metric tons, or 8.6 million pounds, all of which (according to the witnesses) were then mixed with the soil and thrown back into the pits.”

So you seem to be implying that ALL traces of this crime are “vanished”, but in reality, the cremated remains of 875,000 people is still around 3000 tons – all buried inside the perimeters of the camp.

This capacity crowd times 9 - inside a 22 acre camp

Even more ridiculous is that we are to suppose these people were first buried for a few months before they were all dug back up and burned, and then reburied.

Not only did 3 weeks of ground penetrating radar analysis and core samples not show any mass graves, the radar analysis didn’t even show that the sediment layers had EVER even been disturbed as would if you had just simply dug a hole and filled it back in again.

The whole gist of the challenge is that if the Treblinka story is true, you should have a hard time NOT finding evidence. You should literally be able to stick your hand into the soil anywhere in the camp and pull out evidence.

I find it entirely odd that ANYONE would be offended by such a reasonable request as to find 1% of these astronomical amount of remains and collect $200,000 to boot. [/quote]

Actually If you knew anything about it there where many ditches that where on fire at all times. Like I said do some research.

[quote]John S. wrote:
Actually If you knew anything about it there where many ditches that where on fire at all times. Like I said do some research.[/quote]

So what if it was a million ditches? That has no bearing what-so-ever on what remains of a body after cremation…

“Cremated remains, depending on the bone structure of the deceased, will weigh between three and nine pounds”
http://www.funeralplan.com/funeralplan/cremation/cremationprocessing.html

And this from an actual crematorium furnace, not an INEFFICIENT OPEN AIR PIT.

[quote]JustTheFacts wrote:
John S. wrote:
Actually If you knew anything about it there where many ditches that where on fire at all times. Like I said do some research.

So what if it was a million ditches? That has no bearing what-so-ever on what remains of a body after cremation…

“Cremated remains, depending on the bone structure of the deceased, will weigh between three and nine pounds”
http://www.funeralplan.com/funeralplan/cremation/cremationprocessing.html

And this from an actual crematorium furnace, not an INEFFICIENT OPEN AIR PIT.[/quote]

They had these bodies burning constantly, your not going to find ash thats why this site is saying really retarded things, and in your never ending hate of the jewish people you are willing to believe there unbelievable stupid arguments.