The really sad thing is that it’s other men playing these games. Simps everywhere. White knighting is the new most popular sport amongst men it seems.
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That’s correct. Imagine a man suffering from loneliness, alienation, or being taken to the cleaners from divorce, logs onto a forum for some guidance or solace and then is put down by other men. That’s exactly what happens.
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You had me until here, I was reading intently, albeit not knowing what the hell I was reading until this:
“Children out of wedlock increases since the 60s are atrocious in every community”.
Maybe you chose the wrong word, atrocious? I don’t know what the mentality of the community you’ve been talking about is, but I’m assuming it looks down upon children of unmarried individuals?
I think you’re taking the wrong message from his wording, which is dangerous. He specifically states the increases are atrocious
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Whats wrong with the increase? Can’t non married people have children?
You’re taking it out of context. I don’t believe he looks down on children born out of wedlock. I am one of those people born out of wedlock and I do not see his words that way at all. Simply stated the number of people born out of wedlock has increased a lot since the 60’s.
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Just because I’m in a mood, then why atrocious? Why tie a negative connotation to it? If the increase is atrocious, does that not imply its a problem?
He is simply touching upon the assault on the family unit. People expected marriage because it showed the kids would have a family unit.
Have you ever lived or worked in towns with a high out-of-wedlock birthrate?
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It sure can be problematic. See above post.
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I do believe it is a problem when there is a much higher chance for someone living in a single parent household (usually the mother) go to prison at a much higher rate.
EDIT: to expand on this, I was raised by my father, not my mother. But I guarantee if I had been raised by my mother, knowing the woman she is (she kind and loves me to death but also turns a blind eye when I do dumb shit) I would’ve ended up in jail or prison
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No, they’re literally incapable of doing so. That’s why every man is born with a chastity belt affixed to his appendage from birth. The key of which is only obtained after he gets married.
In all seriousness, unmarried people can have kids and a child out of wedlock doesn’t have to spell disaster. I happen to anecdotally know of a case like this. Loving couple, been together for almost a decade. They’ll probably be together until the end, yet they have no explicit interest in ceremoniously tying the knot… But they have a kid (infant)
Generally speaking a child out of wedlock = one or more absent parents, thus equating to a lack of prime influential role models and instilled moral fundamentals growing up. Going through the foster care is no picnic. As a result you’ve got a higher likelihood of the child associating with bad crowds, engaging in reckless, risky, dangerous and impulsive behaviours down the track etc.
It’s not the environment you’d want your kid to grow up in. A stable family dynamic is preferable to foster care and/or letting a kid “figure it out” on his/her own.
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For many years. Worked in, lived in, and actively worked with people affected by this. Many of those folks didn’t have the same opportunities a lot of others had, I’m assuming the number has more to do with socioeconomic status than it does ethical and moral ideals. Sorry to interrupt the discussion, just hit a nerve.
It has actually been shown that single-parent households headed by men have better life outcomes for children compared to single-mother headed homes.
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I thinks this is a much better way of saying it. I think it has more to do with parental involvement than whether or not they’re “legally” married.
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You just proved my point.
I’m on a testosterone forum discussing the family unit. Second point for you I’d say. I should know better.
I don’t intend to argue and I’m not confrontational. It was simply a point, nothing more. I’ll move along.
@unreal24278 @lordgains
I’m stepping out. Thread is getting derailed too much.
@dptfit I apologize.
No apology necessary, I should have left it alone. Back to floppy deca dicks!
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I know you didn’t ask me, but I’ll answer anyway.
No. Emphatically no. It looks down on men who refuse to be fathers to those children. The children are innocent and free of judgment. The adult men, on the other hand, do not get a free pass.
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