'Anonymous' Maturing

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
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I do not get you , if it makes me happy to own 100 cars it is my right [/quote]

Ignoring natural rights v neo-liberal rights for the sake of argument, two things:

  1. You can’t put them on the road, which is a privlidge, without being subject to certain rules. If those rules require a credit check by an insurance company, you choose to put the car on the road, your freedom wasn’t assulted, you choose to be subject to that test.

  2. While you are trying to avoid my initial questions of your assertions, please note it hasn’t gone unnoticed. [/quote]

If I want want to own 100 cars no one can stop me , it is my right

we are back to the word semantics . It is my Right to drive a car if I comply with all the regulations

Freedom is assaulted if you allow Insurance companies to charge poor people more than rich with the same driving record

Keep it up I will confirm you a dolt yet :slight_smile:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

If I want want to own 100 cars no one can stop me , it is my right [/quote]

Yeah, I clarified my statement. As it was, I was wrong. So I re-worded it.

[quote] Freedom is assaulted if you allow Insurance companies to charge poor people more than rich with the same driving record

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What does a credit report have to do with poor v. rich people?
And no, you are still free to NOT get insurance. Or free to get it from a company that charges you as you see fair.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

If I want want to own 100 cars no one can stop me , it is my right [/quote]

Yeah, I clarified my statement. As it was, I was wrong. So I re-worded it.

[quote] Freedom is assaulted if you allow Insurance companies to charge poor people more than rich with the same driving record

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What does a credit report have to do with poor v. rich people?
And no, you are still free to NOT get insurance. Or free to get it from a company that charges you as you see fair. [/quote]

While I am not poor nor do I have a bad credit score (most) poor do not have the financial stability required to have a good credit score

[quote]pushharder wrote:

Careful less ye be knighted in the Order of Pacific Northwest Bozos.
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Time will tell who the real bozos are.

“A personality pattern reflecting a desire for security, order, power, and status, with a desire for structured lines of authority, a conventional set of values or outlook, a demand for unquestioning obedience, and a tendency to be hostile toward or use as scapegoats individuals of minority or nontraditional groups.”

And…

"Studies show that conservatives are more conscientious and sensitive to disgust but less tolerant of change; liberals are more empathic and open to new experiences.

But ideology does not have to be bipolar. It need not fall on a line from conservative to liberal. In a recently published paper, Ravi Iyer from the University of Southern California, together with Dr. Haidt and other researchers at the data-collection platform YourMorals.org, dissect the personalities of those who describe themselves as libertarian.

These are people who often call themselves economically conservative but socially liberal. They like free societies as well as free markets, and they want the government to get out of the bedroom as well as the boardroom…

The study collated the results of 16 personality surveys and experiments completed by nearly 12,000 self-identified libertarians who visited YourMorals.org. The researchers compared the libertarians to tens of thousands of self-identified liberals and conservatives. It was hardly surprising that the team found that libertarians strongly value liberty, especially the â??negative libertyâ?? of freedom from interference by others…

Perhaps more intriguingly, when libertarians reacted to moral dilemmas and in other tests, they displayed less emotion, less empathy and less disgust than either conservatives or liberals. They appeared to use “cold” calculation to reach utilitarian conclusions about whether (for instance) to save lives by sacrificing fewer lives. They reached correct, rather than intuitive, answers to math and logic problems, and they enjoyed “effortful and thoughtful cognitive tasks” more than others do.

The researchers found that libertarians had the most “masculine” psychological profile, while liberals had the most feminine, and these results held up even when they examined each gender separately, which "may explain why libertarianism appeals to men more than women."

I am gravitating where the real men are.

[quote]b89 wrote:
They claimed they would detonate an explosive device in a federal building back in November and didn’t follow through on it, probably because it’s easier to talk about it then face the consequences of backing it up. They also sided with Hamas in November during their conflict with Israel and they talked a big game then too, they even attacked Israeli sites. Personally, I don’t think much of them. I hope Israel gives them some special attention if they haven’t already.[/quote]
Did not know any of this. Thanks for the input. Will research.

[quote]JayPierce wrote:

[quote]b89 wrote:
They claimed they would detonate an explosive device in a federal building back in November and didn’t follow through on it, probably because it’s easier to talk about it then face the consequences of backing it up. They also sided with Hamas in November during their conflict with Israel and they talked a big game then too, they even attacked Israeli sites. Personally, I don’t think much of them. I hope Israel gives them some special attention if they haven’t already.[/quote]
Did not know any of this. Thanks for the input. Will research.[/quote]

When I read the above my thought was: Can we verify it wasn’t an anti-Anonymous group trying to liken them to terrorist?

I thought that, too, so I also looked for a denial of Hamas support from A, and didn’t find one.

To be honest, I’m not a blind supporter of Israel, anyway, and I have no in-depth knowledge of the real situation over there. Not sure what to think about the Palestine/Israel conflict.

Domestic terrorism is the major issue for me, so I need to take some time and carefully verify or disprove that claim. Same idea applies, though.

I caught those stories on a blog I like to read, I don’t really go out of my way to read about them or what they do. Feel free to research it for yourself, I’m no expert on them.

The biggest reason why organizations like Anonymous and Wikileaks exist is because the main stream press is not doing there job of reporting on government and corporate corruption. Because they themselves are corporations whose interest is profit above anything else.

Five Secrets Anonymous Should Steal From China

http://www.cfr.org/china/five-secrets-anonymous-should-steal-china/p28015

Finally had a few minutes to do a bit of research, and it was pretty easy to find numerous rebuttals and disavowals from seemingly real A folks. First thought in my mind when a bomb threat was mentioned was “that’s not their style or skillset”. Here’s a link that sums it up well enough:

A guy in Ontario tried to fight…but the government is pretty good at sending a message…

http://www.thespec.com/opinion/columns/article/790182--pussy-riot-meet-bruce-montague

Poo has been flung. For the love of God, guard the fan.

Operation Last Resort has begun, apparently. Tried to visit www.ussc.gov several times today, and there’s nothing there.

[quote]JayPierce wrote:
Poo has been flung. For the love of God, guard the fan.

Operation Last Resort has begun, apparently. Tried to visit www.ussc.gov several times today, and there’s nothing there.

its back up now.

Yep. Finally got it to come up.

I had never heard of the USSC before this. Kinda just figured the sentences were written into the laws and were otherwise up to judges’ discretion.

I have no clue as to what information they could have gotten from the USSC server or if it was just a precursor or what.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

If I want want to own 100 cars no one can stop me , it is my right [/quote]

Yeah, I clarified my statement. As it was, I was wrong. So I re-worded it.

[quote] Freedom is assaulted if you allow Insurance companies to charge poor people more than rich with the same driving record

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What does a credit report have to do with poor v. rich people?
And no, you are still free to NOT get insurance. Or free to get it from a company that charges you as you see fair. [/quote]

I agree with this. The credit score has nothing to do with your ability to pay. What it shows to the Insurance company is your ability to drive and fix the car yourself if it is a minor ding. People with low credit scores have shown they will make claims on their insurance for a minor ding because they do not have the savings to pay for it themselves. A low credit score shows your inability to manage your finances, so the insurance company will pay more out than a person with a good credit score.

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

If I want want to own 100 cars no one can stop me , it is my right [/quote]

Yeah, I clarified my statement. As it was, I was wrong. So I re-worded it.

[quote] Freedom is assaulted if you allow Insurance companies to charge poor people more than rich with the same driving record

[/quote]

What does a credit report have to do with poor v. rich people?
And no, you are still free to NOT get insurance. Or free to get it from a company that charges you as you see fair. [/quote]

I agree with this. The credit score has nothing to do with your ability to pay. What it shows to the Insurance company is your ability to drive and fix the car yourself if it is a minor ding. People with low credit scores have shown they will make claims on their insurance for a minor ding because they do not have the savings to pay for it themselves. A low credit score shows your inability to manage your finances, so the insurance company will pay more out than a person with a good credit score.
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While I do not like it I have to admit it makes sense .

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

I agree with this. The credit score has nothing to do with your ability to pay. What it shows to the Insurance company is your ability to drive and fix the car yourself if it is a minor ding. People with low credit scores have shown they will make claims on their insurance for a minor ding because they do not have the savings to pay for it themselves. A low credit score shows your inability to manage your finances, so the insurance company will pay more out than a person with a good credit score.
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While I do not like it I have to admit it makes sense .
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The only people that like this are the people with a 720 or higher credit score. Just pay all of your bills on time all the time and your credit score will stay above 720 with ease.

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

I agree with this. The credit score has nothing to do with your ability to pay. What it shows to the Insurance company is your ability to drive and fix the car yourself if it is a minor ding. People with low credit scores have shown they will make claims on their insurance for a minor ding because they do not have the savings to pay for it themselves. A low credit score shows your inability to manage your finances, so the insurance company will pay more out than a person with a good credit score.
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While I do not like it I have to admit it makes sense .
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The only people that like this are the people with a 720 or higher credit score. Just pay all of your bills on time all the time and your credit score will stay above 720 with ease.[/quote]

My Ins is pretty cheap , I don’t know my credit score , that is the wife’s job :slight_smile:

USSC website down again. Has been for days