I’m gonna tell you honestly that although Deep Water worked well for me, I could have done anything I normally do without even much of a plan and achieved similar results over the same period of time with a similar diet. I was just bored and wanted to try something new.
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No. Its obstinate defiance.
I literally tried to over throw student government in 5th grade… ![]()
And now?
I make friends with the leader and convince them to do wha I want
Nah. Thats just titillation.
Think deeper. How does this actually affect you or prevent you from achieving your goals?
Life goals, not piddly student group stuff.
I personally beg to differ… deepwater has done absolute wonders for me both body comp wise and strength… in the past 6 ish months my lifts have improved quite a bit. Not necessarily during my deepwater experience, but after.
The diet really clicked with me, and I personally didn’t have to change much to get it to fit into my lifestyle because I was already close to eating that way anyway. I think that if you run it without being restricted to just fat and protein you’ll still make great progress… BUT the calories have to be there to fuel it. I tried running advanced with low/restricted calories and I felt like absolute death. I immediately added food back in, and am super happy I did.
Yup. Not sure who told her DW wasn’t good for 1rms, but that person is an idiot. I hit the highest strict press I’d ever done in my life because of that program.
And diet.
In fact, here’s a deal: you are allowed to eat WHATEVER you want AFTER you eat ALL the required food for the diet. Have as much honeycomb as you want. And I’m not sure who told you Jon Andersen wasn’t ok with quest bars @anna_5588 , but once again, that person was an idiot and you should definitely not listen to them. I have a book from him where he specifically advocates for them by name, and saw an interview with him where he talked about eating 10 a day.
Jesus, I’m an idiot and even I can see that Deep Water is an awesome foundation for increasing 1RM when fueled appropriately.
Just to flesh out my understanding here, and the big strong guys @dt79 @T3hPwnisher are free to correct me:
The process for increasing your 1RM in powerlifting is to build muscle, then learn to use that muscle to move more weight. Deep Water will help you build the muscle if fueled appropriately, then you would find a more intensity based program to help you learn how to use said muscle to hit higher 1RMs
Yup. Dan John sums this up well. AIT: Accumulation, Intensificaiton, Transformation. You make muscles stronger by making them bigger, then you get better at using those stronger muscles by spending time practicing lifting high percentage weights.
Correct me if I’m wrong but you just ran Candito’s linear progression program, which is more of a peaking thing than anything else.
Now you’re going to run the 9 week squat program, which is also a peaking program.
I feel that you would do better running something with volume for a bit. And eating of course, but that horse has been beaten.
I think Anna has been doing a lot of volume for a very long time.
IMO the program she chooses to follow will have little importance. It’s what she does outside of the program (rest days, limiting steps, adequate sleep, enough calories, etc.) that really matters.
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Okay, I will give deepwater beginner a try starting Monday or Tuesday (depends on when family friend has time to help set up barbell
I’ve been lifting for 6 years not. I think I should be ready. Having done a 10x10 squat and 10x10 dl workout did help me build confidence. It’s going to be fun doing it in the heat.
Question: I don’t have a DL platform or rubber flooring. Will I destroy my bumper plates if I don’t set EVERY rep down gently (probably not going to happen by the end of some of the workouts)
Also do do not have access to a bench. I could improvise but it would take basically rearranging the garage and causing a huge commotion+ time suck. IDK if that’s worth it. I’ll find a substitute
… and the pullups aren’t going to work. I’ll just do my 100 swings instead
I wouldn’t worry too much about if you have enough experience to do the program, as much as if you’re going to embrace and follow the principles that come with it (especially the recovery based ones!).
There’s what, 4 days of lifting and a 5th (30 min?) active recovery day? I’d say spend your weekends doing nothing. No miles of walking, no conditioning, no burpees, no swings, nothing. Save that for when you have built up to a higher level, which won’t happen without you know what…
Personally I’d say swings are quite different from pull-ups and doing 100 of them along with your 10x10 squats and DL’s is a bit much for you right now, but I’m no expert. I haven’t run the program. Maybe more rows? Shrugs? Curls? I don’t know.
I think 100 kb rows is a much better idea than swings
I use swings and rows as “daily work”- done in the afternoon in lieu of my afternoon walk b/c of the sun. I’ve stopped w/ it and replaced them with short workouts (tabata, some burpees) b/c I was tired of my upper back always being pissed
Would that change things?
Sorry I thought 100 chins was part of the Deep Water program. I would definitely not add to it, with daily work or extra conditioning or whatever, on my first go
The program calls for sets of chins to failure.
I don’t have a pull-up bar and our door frames are very weak and narrow
My squat stand doesn’t have safeties and non of the tables in my house are particularly sturdy so inverted rows won’t work either
I just read through a spreadsheet of the program, should have done that first.
Instead of doing 4xf with pullups I would just do 4xf of a row.