I guess the issue is that a “healthy bodyfat level” for me is higher than I’d like to be at, and my metabolism is “too slow” for my appetite.
There are some women who are perfectly healthy and stay that way while being leaner than me. I wish I could be like them
I’m confused as to why you dropped calories.
Are all body weight related health concerns fixed? You ignored my question about therapy.
Try to do as much pulling as pushing. You may do some rows with your presses but the pushup offset is still substantial.
Sorry,. Therapy is going great- we’re working on self esteem, which she thinks is at the root of the issue. I’ve only had 2 sessions
noted. I’ll probably need to up the workout density considerably
The issue is the eating disorder: this is the consequence of it.
I’m confused- is wanting to be lean the consequence or not being able to healthily be lean the consequence
You are prioritizing being skinny over not dying. That is the consequence of the disorder.
Haven’t been checking your workouts lately but I doubt you need more workout density.
If you add in more rowing and ab work, you remove something else to compensate.
Quality of quantity.
By definition, being “leaner” than you means not “fat” enough to have a period. That is not defined as being “healthy”, not by a long shot.
And just who are these “some women”? Names and/or pics or I call bs.
Btw, imho you don’t look as good being “lean” as you’d like because you do not allow your body to recover properly by both not eating or resting enough, so your body continues to be unable to build the muscle that you seek, if not actually eating away at your muscle in an attempt to help recovery.
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I don’t see why any dedicated work would be necessary and why you couldn’t use this lift to target that weakness.
I feel like most people addressed the “fluffy” comment of yours suitably.
My own addendum would be,
Please don’t cut the weight
No, you aren’t. I’m not one for body shaming so I won’t post pictures of people who are truly gluttonous but you, my dear friend, cannot make this claim because it is unsupported by evidence.
The reason you are ravenous has nothing to do with you, as an individual, and it’s particularly important to highlight this as glutton isn’t exactly a value-neutral term in our society.
It has everything to do with your body responding to be kept at a weight where your body doesn’t want to be while sustaining an excessive amount of activity.
The only way you’ll get to experience something different is to do something different. Accept that your workload is a stimulus on the body for it to grow and you should feed it so that it can. Accept that your genetic makeup has a weight at which your body will function better than it does now and strive to reach that weight. Decrease your activity levels to within reasonable limits. Find other ways to deal with your restlessness and emotional issues that are currently fueling you to maintain this activity.
Good
Stop tracking. Maybe someone else will disagree but from your post history I get signals that among other things you have a “control need” given how you respond to changes outside of your control. When you track, you’re encouraging your obsession making it harder to break out of. Relinquish the reigns and live life. I know that idea is stressful, because it is/was to me too. The only way to decrease the stress is through exposing yourself to not having that control.
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Really glad about the therapist thing. I hope it works out well for you!
Neither - it’s not knowing what “lean” is when you’re looking at yourself. Make sure you’re telling your therapist about your food intake changes and your self-perception as “fluffy”.
Which women are you looking at? Women like stephi Cohen have a lot more muscle than you helping them look leaner and higher body weights. She’s also currently not that lean according to her Instagram. Maybe follow her and add some weight and grow some muskles
yeah… let’s just say I manage to take a lot of time doing quite little
I’m thinking about super setting them w/ my press
the CF girls. They’re not healthy due to extreme overwork, but they manage to keep their periods and they do more work than pwn
this is increasingly becoming the case. I feel like my legs can do more, but I’m having a hard time holding onto the kb and my abs burn, making bracing very difficult
I’m not ravenous- quite the opposite. I am very satisfied with my meals. I just want to eat most of the time despite having just eaten and being full. I also like eating large quantities. That’s what I mean by being a glutton. I am not overweight because I don’t indulge
This would just stress me out more because I wouldn’t know whether I can or can’t eat something or how much.
Week 23: Day 6
Military Press: 1x13/side, 1x12/side-25lbs-60sec rests
Seated Press: 2x11/side, 3x10/side-25lbs-90sec rests
For time: 25 manmakers-20lb dbs-5:58
A starving person will be full after not much food, and yet they will still want to eat afterwards. You want to eat because your body is sending hunger signals to your brain, frantically, in an attempt to get you to do so. At the same time, your brain is misinterpreting your self-image and telling you not to eat.
You mention the CrossFit girls and Stefi - they do things pretty much the opposite of you. That’s why people chime in here - because if I wanted to purposefully lose my strength and muscle, I would do exactly what you do.
So, genetic outliers for the most part who treat their diet and recovery needs just as importantly as the training itself. They have a significant amount of muscle mass on their frames which allows them to look lean even while carrying a healthy amount of body fat. I’d wager they probably have in-season and off-season routines as well that have an impact on their appearance and performance. This is an unfair comparison.
They use more drugs than me too. You are setting yourself up for failure tying to be like them.
Maybe don’t base your expectations on elite level athletes. Also,
Wouldn’t it be nice if you were healthy?
Are you sure? Do you think every elite level athlete would be open about something like that? What if the consequence is that they wouldn’t be allowed to compete, would they be upfront about it? For some, it’s their livelihood, would they benefit from being honest?
I remember listening to an interview with Margo Hayes, a now top tier level climber, she was in a gymnastics class/camp as a kid and BROKE her foot. She didn’t want to stop training, and knew the coach wouldn’t let her continue (she had Olympics aspirations). She went to the bathroom and put her foot in the toilet to try and reduce the swelling. Her buy-in was that it was her dream. It wasn’t her income. It wasn’t competition. It was training.
You don’t know any of this stuff for sure. The only thing you can be sure of is that your current bodyweight makes you unhealthy and prevents you from reaching your goals. You are not them.
Exactly. Did you miss the part where I mentioned your inability to build muscle mass due to a lack of calories?
Elite athletes, who have “elite responses” to (lots of) drugs.
BS. Not when they’re in season. Off season, sure, and that’s another lesson for you -even the elite take a break to “rest”.
Newsflash: you compare yourself to elite athletes who make a living off of their training/physiques? Stop for a minute and think of the absurdity of your perspective. You’re a college kid, who should’ve passed puberty, who works out.
I’m an old guy who loves combat sports. I don’t compare myself to UFC fighters. And I gave up getting punched and kicked decades ago.