Anna's Training Log Part 2 (Part 1)

You can’t binge on fruits and vegetables. You just can’t. It’s literally scientifically impossible (in my mind). You can eat a lot, sure, but no one ever got fat from too much broccoli and apples.

Binging works best on unhealthy substances.

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Haha, what?

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Err, you’d be wrong. Binge eating doesn’t just refer to ‘eating a lot’, it’s a disorder, and though it’s more difficult to get fat from eating vegetables, fruit has a lot of sugar and carbs and people overdo fruit ALL the time.

Recurrent episodes of binge eating. An episode of binge eating is characterized by both of the following: 
    Eating, in a discrete period of time (e.g., within any 2-hour period), an amount of food that is definitely larger than what most people would eat in a similar period of time under similar circumstances.
    A sense of lack of control over eating during the episode (e.g., a feeling that one cannot stop eating or control what or how much one is eating).
The binge eating episodes are associated with three (or more) of the following: 
    Eating much more rapidly than normal.
    Eating until feeling uncomfortably full.
    Eating large amounts of food when not feeling physically hungry.
    Eating alone because of feeling embarrassed by how much one is eating.
    Feeling disgusted with oneself, depressed, or very guilty afterward.
Marked distress regarding binge eating is present.
The binge eating occurs, on average, at least once a week for 3 months.
The binge eating is not associated with the recurrent use of inappropriate compensatory behaviors (e.g., purging) as in bulimia nervosa and does not occur exclusively during the course of bulimia nervosa or anorexia nervosa.

Also,

HEALTH CONSEQUENCES OF COMPULSIVE EXERCISE

  • Bone density loss (osteopenia or osteoporosis)

  • Loss of menstrual cycle (in women)

  • Female Athlete Triad (in women)

  • Relative Energy Deficiency in Sport (RED-S)

  • Persistent muscle soreness

  • Chronic bone & joint pain

  • Increased incidence of injury (overuse injuries, stress fractures, etc.)

  • Persistent fatigue and sluggishness

  • Altered resting heart rate

  • Increased frequency of illness & upper respiratory infections

Binge eating is not associated with any particular type of food.

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ANYWAYS, Anna, sorry - I’m hoping we can all take a step back from this, because our points have been made, and this is getting to be a bit of a beat-on-anna fest, which isn’t cool in her own log. I hope you can find an avenue to dealing with some of this stuff. I’ll back out now and stop badgering you. I only mean it out of concern for your health, as does everyone else.

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It’s fine you guys aren’t badgering.
@jshaving I agree w/ @flappinit. I could easily eat 1000+ calories of fruit in 1 sitting although, I don’t think I have a binge eating disorder because I don’t “binge” unless others are present/party. Even if there’s a large quantity of delicious food around, I can control myself

Let’s say there isn’t a single label or diagnosis out there that applies to you. Do you feel as if everything is alright as it is? Do you feel that this is okay, normal or disorderly (even if there’s no named disorder that encapsulates your behaviour)?

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nope.

I definitely think I need to get a handle on my eating when at events ie. not feeling like I have to eat everything

I was making a joke that as a fatty, my binging is on unhealthy foods, and the idea of binging on produce seems so unlikely to be my go-to move that it’s “impossible” except it’s not really impossible, hence the “in my mind” part…it was a dumb joke, haha.

I didn’t mean it in the strictest sense. I was mostly joking, and also just making a comment that Anna’s once a week binge on ribs and grapes (or whatever) should not lead to concerns about weight gain when it’s precisely what her body needs.

Anyway, @anna_5588 - my “joke” was dumb, so forget that, and seriously, best of luck to you. I have zero experience with your issues and have no idea how to help, but I hope you find help and figure things out. You’ve got a lot of strengths and potential, and I hope you can overcome these things and realize said potential.

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And what about your eating/exercise levels the other six days of the week?

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I’m going to cut exercise as laid out by vision (I’ll type out a draft plan later)
Honestly, i’m not really sure about nutrition. I’m currently gaining at 2k with current activity. idk how my body will adjust and am honestly still scared

If you continue to train (not train as you are now) and you stay at 2k you’ll maybe start putting on some muscle. You’ll gain some fat along with it. But fat can be removed later. You won’t reach your peak aesthetic by staying where you are. You’ll have to add some muscle for a while. And when you have, that fat will come off easier too. As someone said, having a functioning endocrine system is such a hack. And muscle demands more calories, so you get to eat more too.

And, just as with people that fear getting to bulky… Getting fat takes time.

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I’ve stayed at my current body composition for two years :sweat_smile: don’t be me. Be better.

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Hopefully, you can see as something to be proud of soon.
I think I speak for most here that the t-nation “family” wants to see you succeed and be healthy.

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New plan: 3x/week full body(alternate btw A&B)+ 1 light workout, 2- 1 hr walks/day and random daily activity (cleaning, walking to fridge and bathroom, meandering while taking breaks)…

Core workout A:
Jump variation: 3 sets of 5- @vision1, how should I track progress and progress these?
Pistol Squat: 3- 4x(3+3 shrimp squats)/side-45lbs → try to add shrimp squats or pistols /week until I’m able to get 4x10 pistols with the 45 (this will take me a while)
1- arm pushup: 3-4x(5+1 negative)/side- keep adding pushups or negatives until I can get to 4x10
Row: 3x5-8- 45lb kb supersetted w/ core

Core Workout B:
Sprints: 5 sets (alternate long/ short), maybe throw some lateral stuff in on occasion too
Pistols: keep progressing like Workout A
Kb Press: 1x 1 push press/side-45, 3x 17-25- Add reps to the lighter sets until I can strict press the 45, then try to progress strict press
KB rdl: 3x5-8- 45lbs supper set w/ core, probably will play w/ tempo so this stays challenging

Light day:
some KB carry stuff
Work on Nordic curl
Work on HS walking
Visualization stuff for big three. Apparently this helps preserve neural pathways

Do you need to walk 2 hours per day? 30 minutes per day sounds more reasonable. Listen to music or read a book instead.

Reps are too high. The more reps, the more muscle breakdown, that’s what the doctor told you to avoid from what I understand. Get away from needing to feel tired or pumped or sore at the end of each set. Focus on speed of the reps. Improve quality overtime instead of improving quantity (volume).

Instead of adding absurd reps at 25 lbs after your 45 lbs singles on KB Push press, try adding a band onto your 25 lbs bell OR try bottom-up KB presses.

I like the idea of an A and B workout.

No need to track progress on sprints or jumps, you should be able to go by feel. Some jumps (like broad jumps) are easy to measure, others will be difficult to assess performance.

Of all the exercises on that list, sprints are the most CNS intensive. What do you mean by alternate long/short? What is your definition of long? Keep the sprints 20-60m in length, no longer. I’d suggest starting short and building in distance as you improve.

Nordic Ham Curls are too intensive for your light day but the rest of the stuff sounds great. If you want some hamstring work on your light day try: KB swings, banded leg curls, swiss ball leg curls … or do them on your high intensity days.

I wouldn’t play with tempo too much, that’s another variable to cause more muscle breakdown. Controlled eccentrics and fast concentrics.

Workout A
Jumps 5 x 5
Pisols 3 x 3-8 per leg, don’t be pushing max reps, add weight when it’s easy
1-Arm Pushups 3-4 x reps, no negatives. You can try weighted pushups here instead if you’d like.
Rows 3-4 x 5-8 + core looks good.

Workout B
Sprints, start at 5 x 20m
Shrimp Squats 3 x 3-8 per leg
Overhead Pressing 3-4 x 5-10
KB RDL 3 x 5-8 + core looks good

Is your KB RDL with 1 leg or two legs? Progress with more weight, not tempo. Use both your kettlebells once 45 is easy.

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Going from 7 hard days a week to 3 hard days a week will hopefully help. Will you be getting your blood work checked again in a few weeks? Once things have improved, you can add back in slow tempos and higher reps and see if it has any negative effect on your blood work. I think adding in rest days is all you really need but better to be safe for now.

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Got it. But how would I track this?

Don’t have a band and don’t want to risk ordering one (discussed previously :joy:)

I was thinking of doing 20-40m one week as “short” and 40-60m for long or “suicide runs” with stuff like lateral shuffles

It’s a way to make the most of the weight as I get stronger ie I could probably get to 8rows pretty quickly, but with tempo, I’d probably only be able to get 4-5

Every 3 months

I based current rep volume off of what I can do rn and my goals (10+ pistols w/45, 10+ 1arm push-ups, 3+ press w/45)

I only have the 25 and 45. I can do 15 reps w/ the 25

Good idea

This is way too easy with the 25 and impossible with th the 45 or bottoms up, any ideas?

1leg. I can do 5/side using the 45 w/ a 3030 tempo