Well, fluffier than normal and my abs are pretty much gone
Within a day, I fluctuate 4-5lbs I’m not talking about within a day, I’m talking about day to day
Day to day that is how much I fluctuate. One morning I can wake up “light” at somewhere around 273, the next morning I can wake up at 283. All depends on training, what I ate, how much water intake I had etc…Metabolism is highly individual so who knows, but for me it’s been this way since I was 16.
This is why I have only a minimal desire for visible abs - to much stress to carry around day to day trying to maintain their visibility.
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No idea, sorry.
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This is a fantastic bit from Chase Karnes’ article “How to Stay Small And Weak”
It goes on even further from there. It’s one of my favorite articles on the subject of getting bigger and stronger. Chase writes a lot of great ones.
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Why did you eat low calorie Wednesday???
felt pretty crap and painted the toilet a couple of times
If you train them and feed them appropriately, this is less likely to happen.
@T3hPwnisher, that’s a great article. I started reading all the novice articles on EliteFTS a few months back and I still think that’s the stand out. One of these days I might even start following the underlying advice.
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Meeh not sure I can quite agree completely. How did John Meadows become bigger then, because he never was over 10% in his life.
Even then, what about fat distribution? I have a friend, all the fat in his belly, nothing elsewhere. Me I’m the opposite. I was 7 kgs heavier this winter and I could still see the outline of my abs. Trust me, as an ex-fatty, I’m never, ever bulking again to the point of not seeing my abs again. Did it 3 times, sounds good, doesn’t work that much.
We both know the answer to this one, haha.
If you were a former fatty, clearly the article isn’t written for you, no? It’s for people that are small and weak and trying to overcome that, rather than people who have no difficulties putting on mass.
What would you consider the threshold for “former fatty”?
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Please stop fixating on the wrong part of the advice here.
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@T3hPwnisher yeah you’re right, sorry. I think it would be beneficial for her too.
Concerning JM sure he’s on gear and it’s easier to gain muscle, but that doesn’t change human biology
I was referring to the notion that exceptions tend to prove the rule rather than disprove it.
One of my favorite authors on the subject is Jon Andersen. He maintains year round single digit bodyfat too at around 300lbs. That’s what MAKES him a freak. For the mortals, it tends to work better to follow the methods that have demonstrated consistent success, especially when the subject relates to the perpetual undereater.
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I thought the very point of gear was to change human biology?
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At the age that you were chubby (and same goes for me), it doesn’t matter. If you had been fat through high school and then gotten to where you are, you could call yourself a former fatty. But being young when fat just means it was part of your growth spurt as a kid. Unless, of course, you were 200 lbs at 7 years old. Then you could say you have a propensity to become a fatty.
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No, it changes the dosage of hormones in your body, it doesn’t change how your body creates muscle. Try taking 500mg of test while not training, or not eating, and we’ll see how much muscle you gain.
I cannot disagree. For the sake of argument, yeah I’ve done it. And yeah I’ve gained muscle while doing it. I just prefer gaining muscle differently now, but probably a less experienced lifter cannot. And I am really, reallyyyyyy far from a freak.
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And even then, the fact you kept a faint outline of abs rather than razor sharp abs is also keeping in with the post. It’s about not getting concerned if definition drops.
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Yeah you’re right. Sorry about that.
It’s just that I got fat, because when I started, I was a 70 kgs twig, and I bulked up, 16 kgs in 6 months. Thought I was getting biiig. Then I kept bulking because I had bulk goggles thinking I was jacked but I was just getting fatter. So I guess I’m too defensive. But I too, talk here to learn things 
We’ve definitely all been there. It’s why I try so hard to emphasize that, along with the food, there MUST be intense training to facilitate growth. Too easy to zero in on just the food and not factor in the training.
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