As long as the underlying principals remain the same, trying to find variations at the right intensity, then adding them probably wont hurt.
Don’t most lifters cut weight to make their class?
Training hard in a sustained calorie deficit doesn’t sound fun, but I guess I’ll just have to toughen up when the time comes ![]()
if youre up at 45 you wont have to train in a deficit. Dropping 2kg will just be a mild water cut and maybe 1 day of low carbs at worst. You’re looking at a week at most of ‘suffering’.
This sounds like exactly what you already do🤣
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as a 5ft girl who weighs around 90lbs, 1800-2000cal (not counting veggies) is a lot of food
Apparently Jen Thompson only eats 1200 on rest days
Maybe she actually rests on a rest/off day. I have no idea who this is, but for argument’s sake I’m going to entertain that she eats 1200 on a rest day, and postulate as a corrolary that she eats more on a training day and ends up with a weekly average somewhere around 1350-1440/day.
Assuming your body manages to assimilate 1800-2000 calories, which is hard to imagine if your vegetable intake remains as it has before, then that means you have an activity level that necessitates over 20 times your body weight in calories just to retain weight.
I know too little of the world to claim for a fact that there aren’t people doing hard labor on the side of their training such that they need to eat those (relative) volumes and still manage to progress. But, unlike these people: your activity is self-chosen. It’s not something you have to do to keep food on the table, make rent and/or provide for a family.
And it absolutely eats into your recovery ability once you do that much stuff.
I don’t know the names of weightlifters, Crossfitters, strongmen/women, etc. but whenever I watch a documentary or something of the sort a recurring theme is: they know to bring it hard in training and in competition and the rest of the time they relax. They go from 0-100 rather than trying to undulate between 70-100. There’ll be someone that defies my generalisation, presumably, but again: recurring theme.
Point taken- 1200 would be miserable, even 15-1600 would feel pretty crap on most days
You have so much room to spare when it comes to dialing back your activity level before you’d be considered anything less than active.
Like, a tremendous amount of leeway.
I think you might not take into account that your weight training is activity too. And hard training takes a genuine toll. Here are two articles on excess postexercise oxygen consumption (EPOC)
a hard session can “cost” you hundreds of calories
And then you have the cost of remodelling tissue, and creating new tissue as well. But when you exercise again, before that tissue has completed remodelling, you’re starting to dig a hole. You can still progress despite this, by becoming more efficient at firing a larger percentage of your muscle fibers and become more technically proficient at the lift. For a while. But at some point, you’re going to need the tissue to be there from a structural standpoint.
@anna_5588, instead of doing a 10,000 KB challenge you could do a
- Train 3-4x times per week
- Have at least one complete rest day
- Only do cardio on off-days
- Cardio == 4mph walk
- Max 1 hour of cardio allowed on an off-day
- No cardio the day before or after legs
- No hypocaloric days
- No more than 8k steps per day (incl. cardio)
- If no cardio is performed, no more than 4k steps (that’ll allow you to go outdoors and enjoy fresh air)
challenge. Because then at least you are challenging yourself. A challenge is supposed to make you do something different. The 10k one seems like… what you normally do.
true. I’d be so bored… and wouldn’t get to eat as much ![]()
Eat 1800-2000 calories on your training days and +1300 on your rest days?
Just writing about calories makes me hungry.
Ha!!! I’d have a very hard time sticking to that. I’ve tried doing occasional “low days” just to see if I could, and most times, I end up justifying more food by the end of the day if there’s good stuff around (usually fruit) ![]()
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It doesn’t seem like it , but I’m really a fat, lazy kid at heart. The difference is that I’m willing to suffer now to slack off in the future. Basically reverse time discounting
By which she means having rest days in the first place.
Very true.
I am willing to do more activity now to be able to avoid having to eat less. ![]()
Also, I’ve done 10k steps on a plane and completed a jetlagged deadlift workout in which I almost passed out loading the bar from warmup… it’s hard to justify taking a day off after that…
Yes and Alex Honnold also climbed El Cap free solo one time, maybe he should do that every time he climbs because he accomplished that insane feat once and got away with it…
Says who?
Just eat as much! Easy solution
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LOL true
direct quote from my parents lol. asian mentality
probably should drop some of that when it comes to rest though