[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
…I was full of shit.
So that’s my pet history.[/quote]
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I don’t get it.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
…I have and will always despise humans.
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Can you imagine what we humans think of you?
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I love it. Sometimes I search for RV’s posts just to see if a disaster of a thread will pop up…is that comparable to killing fuzzy animals with a grin on my face?
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
…I was full of shit.
So that’s my pet history.[/quote]
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I don’t get it.[/quote]
I think your post was some kind of DB Cooper allegory or sumthin…[/quote]
No, I’ve really had all those animals as pets. Now, when I say my rattlesnake was 4 feet, it probably more like an inch or two short of three feet and I caught it when it was considerably smaller than that, maybe a foot and with barely any rattler on the end of it. The other one was about two feet, perhaps an inch or two less, and I had it less than a week.
The ball python was my first snake, and I don’t want to talk about that anymore because I’m still really pissed off about how it met its untimely demise.
The ferret was a cool pet. A friend gave it to me for half an 1/8th of weed, so I called him Half Sack and told people it was because he only had one ball. The iguana was from a friend who didn’t want it anymore. I got him when he was about a foot long, counting his tail which is about half their overall body length at that point. But he got too big and when they get bigger they literally need their own room to live in that has to be at about 88 degrees. Too much of a hassle to set up something like that, plus those fuckers get aggressive and I already had two dogs taking up most of my pet-allotted attention.
As for the Boer goat, that was just sheer stupidity on my part. I thought he was going to be one of these small little goats you see at petting zoos, and he was when I got him. But these Boer goats get over 200lbs and technically, within the city limits I can’t have him as a pet. So I didn’t want to risk having him get out and do whatever it is goats on a rampage do, so I had him slaughtered for his meat once he was too big to be practical in my backyard. That’s what those goats are raised for anyways.
I’m sure what you really found unbelievable is my love of cats. That’s right, I love cats. But only ones that are wild and rambunctious, not the kind that are always spooked about something and are totally anti-social.
Hunting an animal for food is something I can respect, if it’s killed cleanly. We’re descended from hunter gatherers after all. A game animal has a better life than most farm animals and the meat quality is usually a lot better too.
What I can’t abide is people torturing animals for “fun”. We’ve had some horrible cases in the UK recently - kittens in microwaves, kids vandalising parks and killing wildlife there and that sort of thing. I’d take a flamethrower to the lot of 'em.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
…I was full of shit.
So that’s my pet history.[/quote]
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I don’t get it.[/quote]
I think your post was some kind of DB Cooper allegory or sumthin…[/quote]
No, I’ve really had all those animals as pets. Now, when I say my rattlesnake was 4 feet, it probably more like an inch or two short of three feet and I caught it when it was considerably smaller than that, maybe a foot and with barely any rattler on the end of it. The other one was about two feet, perhaps an inch or two less, and I had it less than a week.
The ball python was my first snake, and I don’t want to talk about that anymore because I’m still really pissed off about how it met its untimely demise.
The ferret was a cool pet. A friend gave it to me for half an 1/8th of weed, so I called him Half Sack and told people it was because he only had one ball. The iguana was from a friend who didn’t want it anymore. I got him when he was about a foot long, counting his tail which is about half their overall body length at that point. But he got too big and when they get bigger they literally need their own room to live in that has to be at about 88 degrees. Too much of a hassle to set up something like that, plus those fuckers get aggressive and I already had two dogs taking up most of my pet-allotted attention.
As for the Boer goat, that was just sheer stupidity on my part. I thought he was going to be one of these small little goats you see at petting zoos, and he was when I got him. But these Boer goats get over 200lbs and technically, within the city limits I can’t have him as a pet. So I didn’t want to risk having him get out and do whatever it is goats on a rampage do, so I had him slaughtered for his meat once he was too big to be practical in my backyard. That’s what those goats are raised for anyways.
I’m sure what you really found unbelievable is my love of cats. That’s right, I love cats. But only ones that are wild and rambunctious, not the kind that are always spooked about something and are totally anti-social.[/quote]
http://www.storyarts.org/library/aesops/stories/boy.html[/quote]
whatever
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
…I was full of shit.
So that’s my pet history.[/quote]
[/quote]
I don’t get it.[/quote]
I think your post was some kind of DB Cooper allegory or sumthin…[/quote]
No, I’ve really had all those animals as pets. Now, when I say my rattlesnake was 4 feet, it probably more like an inch or two short of three feet and I caught it when it was considerably smaller than that, maybe a foot and with barely any rattler on the end of it. The other one was about two feet, perhaps an inch or two less, and I had it less than a week.
The ball python was my first snake, and I don’t want to talk about that anymore because I’m still really pissed off about how it met its untimely demise.
The ferret was a cool pet. A friend gave it to me for half an 1/8th of weed, so I called him Half Sack and told people it was because he only had one ball. The iguana was from a friend who didn’t want it anymore. I got him when he was about a foot long, counting his tail which is about half their overall body length at that point. But he got too big and when they get bigger they literally need their own room to live in that has to be at about 88 degrees. Too much of a hassle to set up something like that, plus those fuckers get aggressive and I already had two dogs taking up most of my pet-allotted attention.
As for the Boer goat, that was just sheer stupidity on my part. I thought he was going to be one of these small little goats you see at petting zoos, and he was when I got him. But these Boer goats get over 200lbs and technically, within the city limits I can’t have him as a pet. So I didn’t want to risk having him get out and do whatever it is goats on a rampage do, so I had him slaughtered for his meat once he was too big to be practical in my backyard. That’s what those goats are raised for anyways.
I’m sure what you really found unbelievable is my love of cats. That’s right, I love cats. But only ones that are wild and rambunctious, not the kind that are always spooked about something and are totally anti-social.[/quote]
http://www.storyarts.org/library/aesops/stories/boy.html[/quote]
whatever[/quote]
Just messin’ with ya.
Just feel chipper that I’m a '9er’s fan and have been for decades.[/quote]
Are you shitting me? I would have guessed you’d have been a fan of whoever was playing against them for decades. I’ve been a fan since birth. What was it that drew you toward them? This is completely shattering every negative stereotype and assumption I’ve made about you.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Are you shitting me? I would have guessed you’d have been a fan of whoever was playing against them for decades…
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Since the early '80’s.
Bill Walsh.
I have such great respect for him and for the DeBartolo’s. They ran a classy organization.
Well don’t be gettin’ too friendly, hombre. I still carry two pearl handled political six guns and don’t mind usin’ 'em on the likes of folks who disagree with me when I’m right.
Which is pretty much all the time.
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Yeah, Eddie D. was a great owner. I’m glad to see his nephew get control of the team and keep the Yorks in the background where they belong.
I think Harbaugh looks like the next Walsh. Not necessarily for all the same reasons, but he’s definitely ushered in what looks like it’s going to be a new era in prosperity for the Niners.
Question for dog people:
If I and my roommate are on the same work schedule, is it concievable that we would be able to raise a puppy? I suggested adopting a full grown dog that would be able to handle eight hours of alone time a day, but she’s insistant. I’m hesitant. Thoughts on this?
Thanks
[quote]Ambugaton wrote:
Question for dog people:
If I and my roommate are on the same work schedule, is it concievable that we would be able to raise a puppy? I suggested adopting a full grown dog that would be able to handle eight hours of alone time a day, but she’s insistant. I’m hesitant. Thoughts on this?
Thanks[/quote]
Go for it.
If you want life to suck for six months, at least.
[quote]Vicomte wrote:
[quote]Ambugaton wrote:
Question for dog people:
If I and my roommate are on the same work schedule, is it concievable that we would be able to raise a puppy? I suggested adopting a full grown dog that would be able to handle eight hours of alone time a day, but she’s insistant. I’m hesitant. Thoughts on this?
Thanks[/quote]
Go for it.
If you want life to suck for six months, at least.[/quote]
I’m not worried about my life sucking as much as the dog’s.
It’s going to be rough for a puppy, and probably end up leaving them with bad habits. An 8 week old puppy simply can’t hold their bladder. I think the general rule is an hour for ever month of age. So ideally you wouldn’t want to leave a dog for 8 hours until they are 8 months old. If you kennel them, they will end up shitpissing in the kennel and have a harder time learning proper domestic behavior.
When I got my shepherd I was working graveyards and my wife was first shift so it worked out perfectly. Since the day we got him he’s gone to the bathroom in the house once and he was sick. We just took him out every time he stopped doing anything (playing, sleeping, etc.) and taught him to ring a bell to be let out. The bell is an awesome idea and super easy for a dog to pick up on. Ours learned it in about a day.
I guess what I’m saying is it will complicate matters and MAYBE result in a dog that shows weaker appropriate domestication, but let’s be serious people do it all the time and most dogs are fine. It’s also usually pretty easy to find someone to let them out during the work hours. You can hire dog walkers, but if you get him during the summer months neighborhood kids will be cheaper.
Just be aware-dogs are huge time sinks. You’ll need to walk him, exercise him, let him outside to use the bathroom. It’s all a hell of a lot easier with a yard, and dog parks are a great place for good exercise and socialization. And for the love of god get a real dog and not some shit bag king charles cavalier spaniel or whatever the hell…
[quote]forkknifespoon wrote:
It’s going to be rough for a puppy, and probably end up leaving them with bad habits. An 8 week old puppy simply can’t hold their bladder. I think the general rule is an hour for ever month of age. So ideally you wouldn’t want to leave a dog for 8 hours until they are 8 months old. If you kennel them, they will end up shitpissing in the kennel and have a harder time learning proper domestic behavior. When I got my shepherd I was working graveyards and my wife was first shift so it worked out perfectly. Since the day we got him he’s gone to the bathroom in the house once and he was sick. We just took him out every time he stopped doing anything (playing, sleeping, etc.) and taught him to ring a bell to be let out. The bell is an awesome idea and super easy for a dog to pick up on. Ours learned it in about a day.
I guess what I’m saying is it will complicate matters and MAYBE result in a dog that shows weaker appropriate domestication, but let’s be serious people do it all the time and most dogs are fine. It’s also usually pretty easy to find someone to let them out during the work hours. You can hire dog walkers, but if you get him during the summer months neighborhood kids will be cheaper.
Just be aware-dogs are huge time sinks. You’ll need to walk him, exercise him, let him outside to use the bathroom. It’s all a hell of a lot easier with a yard, and dog parks are a great place for good exercise and socialization. And for the love of god get a real dog and not some shit bag king charles cavalier spaniel or whatever the hell…[/quote]
This is great information, thank you. Fortunately we’re military so there will be plenty of bored Army wives around who would probably jump at the chance to help out. And hell no on the little toy dogs. We’re looking at German Shephard puppies. An eight month old dog might be a good compromise.
[quote]Vicomte wrote:
[quote]forkknifespoon wrote:
[quote]Ratchet wrote:
your dogs ears are huge compared to his head, cute, but thats the first thing i noticed… [/quote]
Yeah, he was only 3-4 months old in those pictures. I’ve been told it will take him about 2 years to reach full size. He still looks like a big dumb puppy, his ears are too big, tail too long, and paws so big he trips over all sorts of things.
I’m kind of surprised how few animal pictures are in this thread, I think in years back they went over a little better.
On the issue of animal cruelty. I’m a hunter, and I’ve never had much of a problem killing animals, but there is a big difference between shooting something with a high-powered rifle, and throwing rocks at a dog that’s chained up outside in the middle of winter. Personally, I dream of the day when I could own a cabin somewhere and have a couple freezers stocked with fresh kills.[/quote]
Throwing rocks that hurt = wrong
Blowing something’s head off causing death = okay
Hypocrisy FTW!!![/quote]
Welcome to the thought process of hunters. they find reasons to justify murder. “oh, we are controlling population” sure you are buddy. we don’t go to africa and thin out over crowded humans or china, now do we, but its ok to do that with animals?
[quote]Vicomte wrote:
[quote]Stern wrote:
Ooh interesting debate.
For clarification Vicomte, and let’s just remove the cute doggy from the scenario for the moment and focus on the deer, are you suggesting that the following two hunters are fundamentally the same?
Hunter Bill who goes out with his son and waits/stalks patiently before getting a clean kill whereupon, with pride, they return home; gut, skin and share their bounty across the dinner table with the rest of the family.
Hunter Dave who goes out with his son and waits/stalks patiently before purposefully shooting a deer in the ass and then tracking it to the spot where it lies lamed. There they poke it with sharp sticks till it’s bleeding profusely and before it’s dead they hang it from a tree and watch as the life ebbs out of it’s twitching body. Proud, they return home empty handed and show pictures to their mates of their handiwork.
One of the above hunters is following a primal tradition that some would argue played a major role in the evolution of our species. The other is doing nothing of the sort.
It’s all about motive. The hunter who hunts for food, the sadist who goes out to cause suffering just for the sake of suffering and the merciful who puts down an animal who is surely suffering are all entirely different entities. I would say the differences here are hardly arbitrary.
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I already ran this thing out in the other animal thread, so I’ll keep this brief.
We’re talking about torturing versus killing an animal, not torturing/killing versus killing.
Now, while their may be differences in the motives of the humans in question, to the deer, motive is completely irrelevant. The deer is having a fucked day no matter what.
Ignoring the motives (which, again, have absolutely no relevance to the deer), I’m saying killing is worse than torture that does not result in death, as they are both unnecessary in this modern day and age. Difference being hunting is considered socially acceptable, whereas torture is not. Either way, still fucking sucks for the deer.
Does that make sense? I really don’t have the energy.[/quote]
Hunting is socially acceptable cause of the mistaken belief that humans are superior to animals. its not socially acceptable to me and never will be. its murder, simple as that.
[quote]Stern wrote:
Ooh interesting debate.
For clarification Vicomte, and let’s just remove the cute doggy from the scenario for the moment and focus on the deer, are you suggesting that the following two hunters are fundamentally the same?
Hunter Bill who goes out with his son and waits/stalks patiently before getting a clean kill whereupon, with pride, they return home; gut, skin and share their bounty across the dinner table with the rest of the family.
Hunter Dave who goes out with his son and waits/stalks patiently before purposefully shooting a deer in the ass and then tracking it to the spot where it lies lamed. There they poke it with sharp sticks till it’s bleeding profusely and before it’s dead they hang it from a tree and watch as the life ebbs out of it’s twitching body. Proud, they return home empty handed and show pictures to their mates of their handiwork.
One of the above hunters is following a primal tradition that some would argue played a major role in the evolution of our species. The other is doing nothing of the sort.
It’s all about motive. The hunter who hunts for food, the sadist who goes out to cause suffering just for the sake of suffering and the merciful who puts down an animal who is surely suffering are all entirely different entities. I would say the differences here are hardly arbitrary.
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So, if i wait and stock a mother (human) of 3, kill her, take her home with pride and gut her and eat her, is that ok also? if thats not ok, why is it ok to kill the deer?
[quote]Hodge_Podge18 wrote:
[quote]Vicomte wrote:
[quote]Hodge_Podge18 wrote:
What the fuck is wrong with us as a species that we maim and murder weaker beings for fun? If I ever saw someone doing something like that to any animal, regardless of whether it’s cute or not, I’d beat them until my fists were raw and I couldn’t lift my arms anymore.
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Hypocrisy FTW![/quote]
How is that hypocrisy? I asked how we can be fucked up enough to hurt innocent beings for fun. I also stated that if I saw someone participating in said act of fuckedupness, that I would beat the ever-loving shit out of them. At what point did you decide that I would call this fun?
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Good for you brother. Im with you. Those that kill animals for any reason, should be killed themselves. end of story. There is no justification to kill innocent beings. None.