Androgel w/ Anavar: First Cycle

Pharma / TRT
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Hello everyone, glad to be a new member to this amazingly intelligent community!

First and foremost, let me give you a little background about my stats:
Age: 29
Height: 6’4
Weight: 217
Bodyfat: 13.9%
Years training: 6

I know when you saw the title of this cycle you thought to yourself, ‘Oh, Christ… another retarded noob afraid of needles.’ This is not the case. In fact, this is far from the case.

The reason I am choosing to do this simple oral / transdermal stack for my first stack is because I have a rare skin disease called Hidradenitis suppurativa (acne inversa) which can be very uncomfortable, painful and embarrassing, and while its exact causes are unknown, there is a mild possibility that one of the catalysts for the condition is Androgen dysfunction.

I know it would probably be wise to avoid Steroids all together due to this condition, but bodybuilding defines me and I do not want to place limitations on achieving my goals based on a perceived disability. I wanted to ‘test the waters’ with a relatively mild cycle, and this is what I have decided on.

Cycle layout:
Weeks 1-8: Anavar 60mg ED
Weeks 6-8: Androgel 5gm / 50mg ED

PCT:
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20

I already have a stash of 14 days worth of Androgel 5gm, each packet 50mg, which I would throw in simply because I have it and it was free. I know the absorbtion rate is crap and I do not anticipate any anabolic effects from such a crappy source of Test – just throwing it in there to help with libido when the Anavar shuts me down. Plus it is already on deck.

Also, my simplistic PCT was based on an Anavar only cycle, so do you think I would need to add anything else in with the last minute addition of the Androgel?

If my body responds favorably to this cycle, I will hopefully be able to do a ‘real’ Test Prop cycle for my next adventure. Fingers crossed

Also, would you suggest moving the test to the first two weeks of my cycle? I decided on the final two weeks to help counter the Anavar shutdown.

Thanks everyone!

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Skin condition so using patches to absorb your androgens through your epidermal layers… It might just be me, but that sounds like some funky jazz.

If you want to test the waters, do a proper cycle, with injections, using a short estered compound. Few weeks of Test Prop for example. Something you can drop quickly, because seriously, no matter how you deliver it, its going to have the same effects (though I couldn’t confidently comment on the patches idea, my guess would be either no results or bad results)

Also, ANAVAR WILL FUCK YOU UP, KILL YOUR FAMILY AND PUT YOUR DOG ON TRT. If your dead set on using… patches… just run them both at the same time, maybe the anavar will show you some benefits. I’d up the Anavar dose to 100mg, and only run it for 6 weeks though.

*This post may have been edited under duress.

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[quote]Tchaikovsky wrote:
Also, Anavars pretty mild on the ol’ HPTA, the likelyhood of you getting shutdown from it is pretty slim. [/quote]

grrrr

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[quote]Yogi wrote:

[quote]Tchaikovsky wrote:
Also, Anavars pretty mild on the ol’ HPTA, the likelyhood of you getting shutdown from it is pretty slim. [/quote]

grrrr[/quote]

Poor wording, basically anything you take in this regard is going to be inhibitory of your natty production. Just trying to make the point to run them side by side rather then trying to stretch it out with TRT patches that’d probably end up making him feel worse if its a dose less then what he’d be producing naturally.

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[quote]Tchaikovsky wrote:

[quote]Yogi wrote:

[quote]Tchaikovsky wrote:
Also, Anavars pretty mild on the ol’ HPTA, the likelyhood of you getting shutdown from it is pretty slim. [/quote]

grrrr[/quote]

Poor wording, basically anything you take in this regard is going to be inhibitory of your natty production. Just trying to make the point to run them side by side rather then trying to stretch it out with TRT patches that’d probably end up making him feel worse if its a dose less then what he’d be producing naturally.

PCT always, just cause you didn’t shit doesn’t mean you shouldn’t wipe. [/quote]

not trying to be a dick, as you seem like a good dude, but I’m not sure you’re at the stage where you should be giving advice quite yet.

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[quote]Yogi wrote:

[quote]Tchaikovsky wrote:

[quote]Yogi wrote:

[quote]Tchaikovsky wrote:
Also, Anavars pretty mild on the ol’ HPTA, the likelyhood of you getting shutdown from it is pretty slim. [/quote]

grrrr[/quote]

Poor wording, basically anything you take in this regard is going to be inhibitory of your natty production. Just trying to make the point to run them side by side rather then trying to stretch it out with TRT patches that’d probably end up making him feel worse if its a dose less then what he’d be producing naturally.

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not trying to be a dick, as you seem like a good dude, but I’m not sure you’re at the stage where you should be giving advice quite yet.[/quote]

Point taken

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[quote]Tchaikovsky wrote:

[quote]Yogi wrote:

[quote]Tchaikovsky wrote:

[quote]Yogi wrote:

[quote]Tchaikovsky wrote:
Also, Anavars pretty mild on the ol’ HPTA, the likelyhood of you getting shutdown from it is pretty slim. [/quote]

grrrr[/quote]

Poor wording, basically anything you take in this regard is going to be inhibitory of your natty production. Just trying to make the point to run them side by side rather then trying to stretch it out with TRT patches that’d probably end up making him feel worse if its a dose less then what he’d be producing naturally.

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not trying to be a dick, as you seem like a good dude, but I’m not sure you’re at the stage where you should be giving advice quite yet.[/quote]

Point taken[/quote]

i can’t find the link right now, but i did point out elsewhere that Anavar is surprisingly suppressive to the HPTA in a relatively short amount of time. i think the point is, any hormone is, so to pretend otherwise sets us up for failure…