I am currently in the Navy, and was just made aware of an upcoming ban on Andro. My question is do any of the ingredients on Mag-10 fall into these categories? It looks to me that 1-AD, and 4-AD are the ones that they are going to be testing for. But I don’t know enough about the supplment to recognize them. I do know that I love Mag-10, and would hate to have to say good-bye to it. Any help on this would and will be greatly apreciated.
“Andro Ban” Takes Effect 20 Jan 05 On 22 Oct 04, the President signed Senate Bill 2195, otherwise known as the “Andro Ban.” The law, which takes effect 20 Jan 05 following a 90-day grace period, adds 18 substances to the list of banned anabolic steroids in Sec. 102 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 USC 802). The most significant of these is androstenedione, a steroid precursor known as “andro” in the
bodybuilding community. Under the new law, andro and andro supplements
(to include commonly-used 1AD and 4AD), which are currently available
in virtually all health and fitness stores, will be classified as
Schedule III controlled substances, similar to cocaine and heroin. As
of 20 Jan 05, these substances may no longer be legally purchased. It
will also be illegal to use them, even if they were bought before 20 Jan
Yes MAG-10 would fall into this category but that is why Biotest is developing new products that don’t fit the ban but have similiar effects. Either way you should stock up on it while you can
hey, they don’t test for steroids (or prohormones) in the military most of the time. usually if somebody blows up or does something stoopid they’ll get popped for a UA…
[quote]Amper wrote:
Chief wrote:
It has nothing to do with the Military. They are being banned for everyone in the US.
Yes, but unlike the civilians, we can not USE Andro after 20 Jan. Period. It becomes a Class 3 for us regardless of purchase date. [/quote]
Explain to me what the legal difference will be for someone in the military besides the fact that we can get tested. I don’t know of any specific Military laws that make this any different than what civilian law is.
Are you saying that it is legal for a civilian to USE Andro/PHs after the “Ban” goes into effect. I didn’t know this. I thought USE was illegal also.
As said above, it is very rare that the Military tests for Steroids. It’s too expensive. They don’t do it unless it’s deemed neccessary for that individual.
[quote]Chief wrote:
Amper wrote:
Chief wrote:
It has nothing to do with the Military. They are being banned for everyone in the US.
Yes, but unlike the civilians, we can not USE Andro after 20 Jan. Period. It becomes a Class 3 for us regardless of purchase date.
Explain to me what the legal difference will be for someone in the military besides the fact that we can get tested. I don’t know of any specific Military laws that make this any different than what civilian law is.
Are you saying that it is legal for a civilian to USE Andro/PHs after the “Ban” goes into effect. I didn’t know this. I thought USE was illegal also.
As said above, it is very rare that the Military tests for Steroids. It’s too expensive. They don’t do it unless it’s deemed neccessary for that individual.[/quote]
Here’s the law per DOD Directive 1010.1:
3.1.6. Recognize the illicit use of anabolic steroids by military members as an
offense under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) and Section 978 of 10,
U.S.C. (reference (g)), and treat that use in the same manner as other illicit drug use,
since anabolic steroids were established as “controlled substances” as listed by Sections
802 and 812 of 21, U.S.C. (1994 Supp.) (reference (h)).
I haven’t seen anything (yet) in civilian law that makes possession a crime. This is irrelevant for those of us in the military.
Oh and as far as testing goes:
5.1.1. Testing. The Services are to test for anabolic steroids by urinalysis, as
follows:
5.1.1.1. In certain target populations on a command-directed basis, as
required.
5.1.1.2. In cases where probable cause exists.
5.1.1.3. By a random sampling of urine specimens. Each Service is
required to test at least 1000 random specimens for anabolic steroids every 2 years.
Personally, I am not willing to gamble my career on it.
3.1.6. Recognize the illicit use of anabolic steroids by military members as an
offense under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) and Section 978 of 10,
U.S.C. (reference (g)), and treat that use in the same manner as other illicit drug use,
since anabolic steroids were established as “controlled substances” as listed by Sections
802 and 812 of 21, U.S.C. (1994 Supp.) (reference (h)).
I haven’t seen anything (yet) in civilian law that makes possession a crime. This is irrelevant for those of us in the military.
Oh and as far as testing goes:
5.1.1. Testing. The Services are to test for anabolic steroids by urinalysis, as
follows:
5.1.1.1. In certain target populations on a command-directed basis, as
required.
5.1.1.2. In cases where probable cause exists.
5.1.1.3. By a random sampling of urine specimens. Each Service is
required to test at least 1000 random specimens for anabolic steroids every 2 years.
Personally, I am not willing to gamble my career on it.
[/quote]
Thanks! I agree on the career thing. Thank god I’m getting out soon.
But really, that testing is weak! 1000 random specimens per Service. OMG, what percentage is that? Very, very small.