Could all you guys with the prohormone questions stop? They suck, they are 1/2 if that as good as roids, and probably 2x’s as dangerous! Get with reality, son!
I think that all depends on which you are talking about. I’ve always had good luck with MAG-10 and with the exception of some minor acne, zero sides. On the other hand, at one time I had a Methyl stack (MM, M1A, M1P) that after reading about it on here I decided against using it and sold it.
But now with the ban in effect and all this clone crap coming from who knows where and probably made of half dry wall dust, I would have to agree.
As A side note, for people out there who are fairly new to the subject-such as myself, pick up a copy of “Anabolics” by William Llewellyn. You can find the 04 or 05 editions for a decent price and they have a ton of info. It also might keep the vets from having to answer basic questions over and over.
[quote]shamus wrote:
Could all you guys with the prohormone questions stop? They suck, they are 1/2 if that as good as roids, and probably 2x’s as dangerous! Get with reality, son![/quote]
I agree that they suck for the most part. 4-AD topical and 4AD-EC were the only decent ones IMHO.
They all caused more shutdown and less results than real gear.
Also, most real gear was at least at one time an approved pharmaceutical.
However evil people think big pharma is they at least look at the compound and report its effects clinically. These pro hormones are a bit unpredicatable.
Ummm, no they don’t.
MAG-10 worked great for me.
I also used another m1t and 4-ad product at the same time that worked great as well. They are very hard on the liver, and should not be ran for long periods of time, but they work well for what they are.
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Going to have to side with you on this Shamus. I was a bit rude in another pos to a guy asking about prohormones, partly because the grammar in the post ticked me off, partly because of the ignorance of the poster regarding Prohormones, and partly because I am sick of hearing about prohormones.
Yes, MAG-10 was a decent product, maybe even good, but i dont have enough experience with it to know. The fact is MAG-10 is no longer made, and therefore its efficacy is irrelevant.
The crap that’s out there now is bad stuff. These forums are filled with people that had problems with methyl ester crap.
Why are YOU concerned about someones questions?? Do you put it in your body?
So why so upset? Just ignore the damn post…geez.
I agree with the OP.
But not for the same reason.
They suck because they are sudo offering one last shred of credibility to these people taking them that they are willing to forgive important factors like product testing, support and documented studies.
We get 5 posts a week from guys starting off by saying “i wouldnt take ‘roids’ but…”.
And they are willing to just throw this untested shit down their gullets so they can tell mom, “no im not on drugs”.
Sorry to break the news to these guys, prohormones are steroids in every sense and have far greater (so far) consequences and problems.
Yes… there have been creditable sources of pro-hormones, MAG-10 and the like. But these are no longer available and what we see on the market today is untested shit.
[quote]Rockscar wrote:
Why are YOU concerned about someones questions?? Do you put it in your body?
So why so upset? Just ignore the damn post…geez.[/quote]
No shit Rock, besides some of us do not have access to illegal substances or in a position to be able to take them anyway with work place random drug tests.
I’m going to be having a kid here in June and theres no way in hell I’m doing jail time over some roids.
The posts suck and sometimes ya just cant ignore ignorance! And if you guys want to say i’m not doin’ jail time for 'roids, let me tell ya, if you are in possession of ANY pro-hormone that everyone stocked up on last year, this includes MAG-10 and all the 4 AD’s, you will get charged!
Trust me, i got pulled in Ft. Lauderdale after the ban went into effect, and i just got off probation because they couldn’t bust me with anything besides the few caps of 4 AD in my console!
Plus, if ya wanna know about pro-hormones, start a forum especially for them so we won’t have to weed through the BS fly-by-night products that intelligent people wouldn’t waste there time or risk the side effects to injest in the body, or waste their money!
I’ve had side effects from pro-hormones, 12 hours in jail and 24 months probation! So go ahead and take your pro-hormons, they suck! I’ll take my Primo, Deca, Sus, and not wonder who or where the shit came from, or what it’s doing to my body.
The pro-hormones are throw away technology from forty years ago, they were too toxic so the pharm. co.'s threw the shit away. But guys like the asshole that started the BALCO and all the other dudes saw a goldmine and had no remorse for the side effects of their customers. I’ll take my protein, milk thistle, saw palmetto, and my lovely juices!
Most random drug tests by companies are searching for coke, pot, etc… It costs WAY too much to test for juice, so a company has to be totally sure they wanna waste their money to test an employee. Even in the Marine Corps., they don’t test for juice unless the Commanding Officer approves the test, and only if he has been presented enough evidence against a person to justify testing for 'roids.
And trust me, all the guys in Camp Pendleton, and Miramar Air Station that look like greek gods are making frequent trips to tiajuana!!! Facts are facts…
[quote]shamus wrote:
Most random drug tests by companies are searching for coke, pot, etc… It costs WAY too much to test for juice, so a company has to be totally sure they wanna waste their money to test an employee. Even in the Marine Corps., they don’t test for juice unless the Commanding Officer approves the test, and only if he has been presented enough evidence against a person to justify testing for 'roids. [/quote]
Well that’s a good thing to know.
[quote]And trust me, all the guys in Camp Pendleton, and Miramar Air Station that look like greek gods are making frequent trips to tiajuana!!! Facts are facts…
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LOL!!!
[quote]shamus wrote:
And trust me, all the guys in Camp Pendleton, and Miramar Air Station that look like greek gods are making frequent trips to tiajuana!!! Facts are facts…[/quote]
ROFLMAO…Semper Fi, Mac…
[quote]Blacksnake wrote:
shamus wrote:
And trust me, all the guys in Camp Pendleton, and Miramar Air Station that look like greek gods are making frequent trips to tiajuana!!! Facts are facts…
ROFLMAO…Semper Fi, Mac…
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You can also ask the company doing the test to see the list of drugs they test for, it’s your right. As for the military, Shamus is absolutely right. The commandant of the marine corps actually stated he will NEVER EVER implement drug testing for steroids. We had guys at places I was at that had to get extra material stitched into their already XXL sleeves so they could just look presentable.
Everyone just turns their heads… why? Because they want killers, and badasses … they don’t want guys that look like that douche on the other post talking about his dad’s super hardcore navy workout program. Juice just isn’t the same as recreational drugs, most people could give a flying shit…