Andreas Munzer's Alleged Last Cycle

[quote]Electric_E wrote:
rainjack wrote:
Electric_E wrote:
RJ, nobody is bad mouthing the guy, you say “let him rest in peace” should I stop listening to my Jimi Hendrix LP’s too? and let him rest in peace?

So you get as much enjoyment out of posting rumors as you do listening to Hendrix? Whatever floats your boat…

I never said anyone was bad mouthing Munzer. I just think it is stupid to be discussing a bogus cycle that a dead supposedly man made as if it means anything.

I think for levels of enjoyment, listening to Jimi justs pips it.

I thought that it would makean interesting discusson and would provide some intersting reading for newbs that was not aware of this man.
I am not spreading romours RJ, simply discussing the man and what was written about him at the time of his tragic deathif there is a heaven and he is looking down on this I am sure he will not mind us talking about him.

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Did I say you were “spreading rumors”? Quit reading shit into what I write. I said you were posting rumors - which is exactly what you did.

If you want ot help out the newbs - stop acting like one.

[quote]rainjack wrote:
Did I say you were “spreading rumors”? Quit reading shit into what I write. I said you were posting rumors - which is exactly what you did.

If you want ot help out the newbs - stop acting like one. [/quote]

How else does one “spread” a rumor other than posting/telling someone something that another said?

Just saying…

[quote]CrewPierce wrote:
rainjack wrote:
Did I say you were “spreading rumors”? Quit reading shit into what I write. I said you were posting rumors - which is exactly what you did.

If you want ot help out the newbs - stop acting like one.

How else does one “spread” a rumor other than posting/telling someone something that another said?

Just saying…[/quote]

Spreading - believing what is said and being a party to the spreading of the rumor.

EE qualified what he he posted.

Whatever… pull your panties out your ass and take a chill pill bill

[quote]Electric_E wrote:
Whatever… pull your panties out your ass and take a chill pill bill[/quote]

I merely said to let the guy RIP. You are the one who invoked Hendrix.

It would seem to me that you need to check your own panties before worrying about the placement of mine.

If you want to start stupid, bullshit threads in the GAL forum - go ahead. That’s what it’s for. There is no need for them in here.

Thanks, and have a nice weekend.

[quote]rainjack wrote:
Electric_E wrote:
Whatever… pull your panties out your ass and take a chill pill bill

I merely said to let the guy RIP. You are the one who invoked Hendrix.

It would seem to me that you need to check your own panties before worrying about the placement of mine.

If you want to start stupid, bullshit threads in the GAL forum - go ahead. That’s what it’s for. There is no need for them in here.

Thanks, and have a nice weekend. [/quote]

Sorry I did not realise you were now a mod and decided whwhere threads should and should not be placed.

Well I thought some steroid users (hence the steroid forum)may find interest in reading about this Andreas

You make out like I am pissing on his grave or something

[quote]Electric_E wrote:
rainjack wrote:
Electric_E wrote:
Whatever… pull your panties out your ass and take a chill pill bill

I merely said to let the guy RIP. You are the one who invoked Hendrix.

It would seem to me that you need to check your own panties before worrying about the placement of mine.

If you want to start stupid, bullshit threads in the GAL forum - go ahead. That’s what it’s for. There is no need for them in here.

Thanks, and have a nice weekend.

Sorry I did not realise you were now a mod and decided whwhere threads should and should not be placed.

Well I thought some steroid users (hence the steroid forum)may find interest in reading about this Andreas

You make out like I am pissing on his grave or something

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Nope. I make out like you are acting like a fucking noob.

As for me being deciding where stupid shit threads should or shouldn’t be posted - all it takes is an ounce of common sense.

Anyone read ‘Muscle’?

It goes into detail about this cycle: Dorian Yates had a pretty good theory about it: because of the scarcity of getting the gear he needed, Andreas would get as much as he could at once. If he gets busted with that, he’s probably looking at a dealing charge, unless he’s got something indicating that its all for personal.

And the valium was apparently because he’d burned out his stomach lining taking asprin and it helped with the pain of that. Plus, Mohammed Benzia didn’t die on stage.

Fuckin’ Andreas was sick though. Poor bastard.

[quote]rainjack wrote:
Electric_E wrote:
rainjack wrote:
Electric_E wrote:
Whatever… pull your panties out your ass and take a chill pill bill

I merely said to let the guy RIP. You are the one who invoked Hendrix.

It would seem to me that you need to check your own panties before worrying about the placement of mine.

If you want to start stupid, bullshit threads in the GAL forum - go ahead. That’s what it’s for. There is no need for them in here.

Thanks, and have a nice weekend.

Sorry I did not realise you were now a mod and decided whwhere threads should and should not be placed.

Well I thought some steroid users (hence the steroid forum)may find interest in reading about this Andreas

You make out like I am pissing on his grave or something

Nope. I make out like you are acting like a fucking noob.

As for me being deciding where stupid shit threads should or shouldn’t be posted - all it takes is an ounce of common sense.
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I want to discuss a bodybuilder that took a lot of illicit substances and tragically died most probably due to the amount of gear he took, maybe many of us will find some enlightening knowledge during the discussion.

I speficically want to discuss steroid cycles of pro BB this is the correct forum to do that.

If I posted this in the GAL forum it would most probably get moved to this forum anyway.

If you do not like it do not read it, I cannot understand why you waste your time posting in a thread that does not interst you.

[quote]Electric_E wrote:
I want to discuss a bodybuilder that took a lot of illicit substances and tragically died most probably due to the amount of gear he took, maybe many of us will find some enlightening knowledge during the discussion.

I speficically want to discuss steroid cycles of pro BB this is the correct forum to do that.

If I posted this in the GAL forum it would most probably get moved to this forum anyway.

If you do not like it do not read it, I cannot understand why you waste your time posting in a thread that does not interst you.

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  1. You have no fucking clue how much he took.

  2. You have no fucking proof that AAS caused a damn thing.

  3. You have not mentioned any other BBer, or their cycles and this thread is now on page 2.

  4. I posted my thoughts on this early on. You have been vainly attempting to justify this thread to me with bullshit excuses and falied attempts at putting words in my mouth.

  5. If you want me to stop posting in this thread, stop replying to each and every post I make.

Like I said - an ounce of common fucking sense.

interesting thread. rainjack seriously a jackass. all he has to do is not open the thread if he doesnt like the subject… but nooo he wants to come in and call people noobs and talk down to them as if he is superior.

STOP REPLYING and GTFO homo

  1. You have no fucking clue how much he took.
  • We never said that. Thread starter said it is just a rumor and many think it was diuretics.
  1. You have no fucking proof that AAS caused a damn thing.
  • No one has proof OJ killed his wife either but everyone knows its true.
  1. You have not mentioned any other BBer, or their cycles and this thread is now on page 2.

-maybe he doesnt know any other BBers cycles. one guy said they said they like igf1… if anyone else knows this would be the place to post it

  1. I posted my thoughts on this early on. You have been vainly attempting to justify this thread to me with bullshit excuses and falied attempts at putting words in my mouth.

thread doesnt need justification

  1. If you want me to stop posting in this thread, stop replying to each and every post I make.

stop being a jackass.

[quote]Boxer666 wrote:
interesting thread. rainjack seriously a jackass. all he has to do is not open the thread if he doesnt like the subject… but nooo he wants to come in and call people noobs and talk down to them as if he is superior.

STOP REPLYING and GTFO homo

  1. You have no fucking clue how much he took.
  • We never said that. Thread starter said it is just a rumor and many think it was diuretics.
  1. You have no fucking proof that AAS caused a damn thing.
  • No one has proof OJ killed his wife either but everyone knows its true.
  1. You have not mentioned any other BBer, or their cycles and this thread is now on page 2.

-maybe he doesnt know any other BBers cycles. one guy said they said they like igf1… if anyone else knows this would be the place to post it

  1. I posted my thoughts on this early on. You have been vainly attempting to justify this thread to me with bullshit excuses and falied attempts at putting words in my mouth.

thread doesnt need justification

  1. If you want me to stop posting in this thread, stop replying to each and every post I make.

stop being a jackass.[/quote]

And who pulled your 1 month old fucking chain?

Noobs should learn to shut the fuck up. Every time piss holes like you post, you make my point for me.

Some punk dick licker telling me to GTFO? If you want to talk about Menzer - let’s hear it. I really don’t think EE needs some emo fuck face like you fighting his fight.

DO you get a little stiffie when playing Mr. Internet Super Hero?

[quote]mbaina wrote:
I have a feeling that cycle is greatly exaggerated. I have talked to two pros, both top five olympians, and neither took even close to that amount of gear. Just my opinoin though, never the less a very sad story. Rest in peace Münzer.

-M

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Although I agree that that cycle is pretty out there, I dont doubt that there are people taking ridiculous quantities of drugs like that. I am on some other boards frequented by IFBB pro’s and there are a few whose usage is more correctly classified as “abuse”.

WOW!

if its true or not true I have no idea and I dont know much about the gear he was or was not using but the stimulants alone would have caused damage if taken at the same time like that.

Weeks 1-10
ephedrine
aspirin
clenbuterol
valium
captagon-- scheduled 1 drug in the US, meaning no legitimate medical use-- it is an amphetamine-type stimulant–
cytomel

the valium would have kind of calmed him down after taking so many stimulants.
and in my opinion anyone taking that amount is very tolerant and it shows abuse to be able to handle that.blood pressure alone would be through the roof I would think.

never heard of captgon,however I know someone that does take adderall,caffeine,and ephedrine and aspirin throughout the day and they are racing like a lab rat.
and way too excitable they had cut down on the adderall and is much better.

some people do go to extremes with things.

Well the one truth is he was fuckin shredded.

-M

Good thread eales it is kind of fitting with the position i have found myself in recently.

Not that i have ever contemplated such an amount of the alleged gear used, but it is worth a re-think by everyone, just how cautious are we still.

Do we still get our bloodwork done regular enough - obviously i cant answer for everyone but for myself it was a no. Are liver protectants used when using a 17aa, not every time no, which when i first began this journey with steroids, i swore i always would.

As i said, good post.

Cheers Tbol.

1 I never said for one second I knew how much he took, thats what the discussion part is for. I did not express my opnion in the first post I simply cut and paste two different pieces that have been written about AM to envoke discussion. And to pass on something that I have found that other steroids users might find interesting

  1. Ok maybe it was his love of doughnuts that killed him.

  2. Ronnie has been mentioned, Not got round to discussing other BBers yet becuase some miserable old cunt hijacked the thread a bit.

  3. I think your mouth is already full, what more can I fit in there? I do not need to justify this thread to you, if this thread is out of order the mods will decide what to do with it.

5.If you continue to give me shit RJ I will reply.

It appears some people have found this interesting, so thats all I give a shit about, you’re starting to sound like some crazy old man in the corner shouting his mouth off.

[quote]Electric_E wrote:

It appears some people have found this interesting, so thats all I give a shit about, you’re starting to sound like some crazy old man in the corner shouting his mouth off. [/quote]

I never said I wasn’t a crazy old man. But what does that make you who keeps talking to a crazy old man?

[quote]rainjack wrote:
Electric_E wrote:

It appears some people have found this interesting, so thats all I give a shit about, you’re starting to sound like some crazy old man in the corner shouting his mouth off.

I never said I wasn’t a crazy old man. But what does that make you who keeps talking to a crazy old man?

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I can’t help myself I used to be a psychiatric nurse and you you gotta love the old and demented

[quote]Electric_E wrote:
rainjack wrote:
Electric_E wrote:

It appears some people have found this interesting, so thats all I give a shit about, you’re starting to sound like some crazy old man in the corner shouting his mouth off.

I never said I wasn’t a crazy old man. But what does that make you who keeps talking to a crazy old man?

I can’t help myself I used to be a psychiatric nurse and you you gotta love the old and demented
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I’m not demented…yet.

So if the discussion is about how much gear - what is your highest cycle in total grams?

Mine is 1.6 grams per week - 1g Test E, 600mg Deca