And We Were All Overreacting Over BLM?

There was no point, I just wanted to see what I could come up with. Just joking around my friend.

Thank you for the compliment :slight_smile:

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Here’s the sentence from your post:

I would say elite Jewish identifying powerbrokers Rothschilds, Rockerfellers (sic), Warburgs, and in these times George Soros, are behind a lot of actual conspiracies.

Any person reading your anti-Semitic post would think that the Rockefellers are Jewish if they didn’t know better. Since they aren’t Jewish, and did some bad shit, I asked you about them specifically which was kinda’ like handing you a shovel so you could dig your own hole and argue against your own point. You did. Thanks.

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Its debatable whether the Rockerfellers have Jewish heritage. Some say they definitely are not, others say it is a Jewish name, others still say it can be a Jewish name, but that the Rockerfellers of monied fame don’t come from that Jewish line.
I bet you don’t know definitively anymore than I do. I’m prepared to say they might be, or they might not be.

Lets say for argument sake I am incorrect, how then does that effect what the other monied moguls have involved themselves in.

As for alleged antisemitism, I’ve clearly stated many times, I am not blaming any involvement of the overwhelming majority of Jewish people for the actions of a small number of extremely wealthy and powerful individuals.
I think European Jews were treated unfairly, and suffered abominably during WW2 from the Nazi regime.
I think the Jews deserve a homeland where it is a safe place to exist(Israel). How many people that are truly anti semetic would believe in those issues?

Using anti semitism as a blanket statement anytime someone wants to discuss contentious history, and question the given narrative, strikes me as an overreaction. It makes me think someone is trying to shut down any scrutiny. If you are so sure of your argument then it at the very least you will get opponents at least agreeing there is room for conjecture, or that your case will be outright proven as correct.

Its the same type of heretical argument used historically to stop discussion regarding whether the earth was flat, or does the earth revolve around the sun. You weren’t allowed to question these facts without being charged with heresy. Science eventually proved the truth.

Why does it matter?

Hitler did. I thought you knew history?

I wonder who? The Jews perhaps?

Don’t believe Washington Irving.

It doesn’t, that’s the point he doesn’t get.

Rich powerful people have done shady shit for millennia. They’ve murdered people, toppled governments, imported mass quantities of drugs, enslaved people, and profited off of it all.

I’m pretty sure that random historical trivia will not convince an antisemite, but here it goes nevertheless - Rockenfeld is a former village near the town of Neuwied in Rhineland-Palatinate, its inhabitans were called Rockenfeller. Even a cursory knowledge of the etymology of Jewish German surnames would be enough to understand that they’re not Jewish.

There’s still some hidden information not analyzed ad nauseam by scores and scores of reputable historians, only waiting for amateur neo-Nazis to ā€œconnect the dotsā€ after ā€œdoing their own researchā€?

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I suppose it doesn’t in and of its self matter if the Rockerfellers were Jewish. The Rockerfeller/Warburg link to IG Farben before and during WW2 is damning of Nazi collaboration, and yes the Warburgs were part of an exclusive elite Jewish,banking and investment legacy. Incredibly rich, powerful, and influential. Why would they side with someone who was trying to genocide their fellow Jew’s? I can expand on that in more detail if anyone really is interested, and not just wanting to shut down discussion?

I’m well aware of the Madagascar Plan. Yes it was a plan of Hitler’s. He was doing it to get rid of it Jews out of Europe, not for their benefit or safety though.
Apparently Israel wasn’t the only option for a homeland, Argentina was also mentioned as a prospect.certain Jews.

Certain powerful Jews with an agenda to push perhaps. You don’t think the elite Jews try to influence, even manipulate their own people, not always with the truth.

I saw a video of a man, he appeared to be an Orthodox, Israeli, Jew. He might have even been a rabbi, I can’t remember off the top of my head as its been a while since I saw it.

He was talking about how Mein Kampf had just become available in Israel. Apparently ownership of the book had been banned, and it was now available, translated into hebrew. He was surprised at what Hitler had to say about why the Germans disliked/hated the Jews. He concluded that much of what he had been taught about the reasons for the emnity did not equate with what Hitler apparently said. I won’t go as far as saying that he thought the Jews deserved such a terrible treatment, but he had a new understanding of why things happened.

I haven’t read Mein Kampf, so I don’t concretely know what his actual views on the Jews were except, blaming them for Communism, its spread and in general being extremely negative. I have heard Mein Kampf is actually quite a boring read, by those that have read it.

Who knows maybe the video is a deep fake, any thing is possible with technology today? I think it had English subtitles, from Hebrew, or Yiddish. It could be legit, or it could be mistranslated.
I will try and track it down. If I find it I will post a link.

The only thing I know about Washington Irving are his tales of Rip Van Winkle, and Sleepy hollow. You’d have to explain the relevance of him, I’m just not really familiar with his writings, or beliefs.

The problem is anyone who questions the stated narrative, is labelled as a neo nazi, anti semite, etc. In certain countries you will get thrown into gaol, for even suggesting that the history is debatable, surrounding the Holocaust.

Even the official accepted numbers of deaths at certain concentration camps has been revised down since the end of WW2.

If you missed it in an earlier post to Z, there is a response about the Madagascar plan.
If someone today doesn’t believe in Israels right to exist they will tell you straight to your face. heck you will find even some Jews are not Zionists(small number admittedly).

Somehow I knew he’d get around to this at some point…

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Huh? No?

It’s a higher number than you’d think

The funny thing is…these are official numbers accepted and posted on display at the concentration camps, for tourists to come and see. They are not the numbers talked about by so called Holocaust denialists. So called because I haven’t heard anyone seriously say the Holocaust never happened, they just dispute the numbers, of deaths.

I don’t know how many Jews died. I’ve heard arguments ranging from 6 million down to 280000. I’ve also heard many in between. Some people say 2 million, others say 4 million. That’s a big difference, even the smallest number if true, signifies genocide, enforced labour(slavery) and misery of innocent people, before they died and that of those who survived.

The correct number is: 8 trillion. I dare someone to out-patronize me. The Soviet Union killed zero people until after Stalin became an enemy of the U.S. instead of an ally.

From what I can tell the changes have to do with records from the Soviet Union coming to light after its collapse. They are still much higher numbers than the people questioning the accepted narrative.

What have you been told is the official number of deaths, overall? What is the amount locked up, and how many survivors?

What percentage would you estimate?

I met a Jewish girl about 10 years ago. She had one parent who lived in NYC, and the other in Australia. She had recently finished her military service in Israel. I said that must have been pretty cool. She said no, no it wasn’t! I said well if your telling me that , I believe you. She didn’t go into too much detail, she gave me the impression it was nothing like she had thought. Not saying she had become anti Zionist or anything, but her reaction really surprised me. I didn’t push her, as she was obviously distressed, gave a strong negative vibe about her experience. Any way she said she was glad to be in Australia, rather than NYC or Israel.
The other people I have heard from that served in the IDF were positive about the experience.

Overall for WWII, some 70-80 million people. As for the holocaust, I can personally attest distant family members of mine perished and/or were displaced as a result. Speak to any holocaust surviver who was around to experience the brunt of the atrocities initiated through the nazi regime. During the peak, the concentration camp/death camps would push in very large crowds of prisoners towards gas chambers multiple times per day under the guise of taking showers.

I’m not going into this though, you appear fairly invested towards conspiracy theories.

The overall number would appear to be around 5.8 million jews killed.

Depends on the conveyed ideology harboured by the individual. I’ve heard opposing/conflicting stories, both positive and negative experiences.

I read or see something that goes against everything that I had previously learnt, it certainly does create questions in my mind. I don’t automatically accept all of it as the truth. I felt the same way even when I was young, about Santa Claus, then finding out he didn’t actually come down the chimney, via the North Pole to give me presents(never lived in a house with a chimney for that matter). I felt I was lied too, and definitely didn’t understand, and also resented it.
I felt the same way about Christianity too, eventually I noticed too many anomalies in what was being taught and how the world really was. Whilst I believe there are plenty of good things about religion, no matter how hard I try I just am not convinced that anyone has accurately come close to explaining the truth of existence. I’d seriously like to believe, life would be much easier for me. It just doesn’t seem to be in my nature like is is in many others.

I have and it’s all a crock of shit.

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Is it as bad as anything by James Joyce.

Wtf does that mean? It reads as though you are saying if you believe the official numbers you are patronizing the Jewish people.

It’s more fictional.

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I hope you got over it. Once you take a close look at the website you referenced:

It’s pretty easy to understand why you question so many commonly accepted things. Let’s take a look at some of the bullshit on your site:

Some outtakes from the article -

We can also report from both the P3 Freemasons and Russian FSB sources that the Khazarian Mafia (specifically the Davos people and the European dark nobility) has reached out to the White Dragon Society and its allies to negotiate a surrender.

As the P3 put it:

> ā€œThe Deep State is in panic, they want to negotiate…they understand at the highest level what really happened and are afraid.ā€

President Donald Trump, whether you love him or hate him, is a genuine human being elected by the human beings of the United States. His political opponent Joe Biden is (more often now visible as a CG composite) representing an unelected group that hides from public view.

This same secretive group has killed and replaced Chinese President Xi Jinping, Russian President Vladimir Putin, Pope Francis, and Queen Elizabeth with computer graphics and body double actors.

I really appreciate you posting the link though because this stuff is solid gold.

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