Yeah, I found a SA site, the shipping costs more than the book.
The Russian book looks a bit to technical for me. I do have Ian’s book on French military rifles, and the British bullpups one is on order too.
Wow! And how many of your fellow officers were hurt during these ‘peaceful protests’?
I tell you, I don’t see any of this ending well. These far-left nutjobs are going to poke the bear one too many times and what happens after that isn’t going to be pretty. If there was some way to release this pressure, I wouldn’t be so pessimistic but no relief seems to be coming. Only more pressure, with these idiot governors trying more lock-downs, people are going to blow, even regular people have their limits. Stay safe.
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5 shot. One died.
Yea… These coward pieces of shit are enabled and id say encouraged by leftist scum politicians. Plenty were even released from jail with their charges dropped.
Such brain dead losers thinking they’re revolutionaries. What a joke.
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Any other country, some in the past like the Brits, and some in present day like China, would long have used this as an excuse to start enacting legislation to suppress them that would end up being applied to any other reasonable forms of protest for any reasonable cause.
And get this: Protests aren’t illegal in China despite what the MSM says. People just know how to conduct themselves properly while getting their voices heard and objectives met.
These idiots aren’t doing themselves any favors. Once you lose the support of the public that’s it. You’ve just shadow boxed and lost to yourself.
You mean they don’t show up at the state capitol maskless with guns and scream in the faces of police officers? Like the far left… oh wait.
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Isn’t this thread about BLM extremists?
If there are retards on the Right, same rules apply. Didn’t think this needed to be said.
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Dear God! And I take it, your elected leadership are punishing you and not the violent attackers. You have a street level view, what do you see happening in the country? Are you going to stay a cop or go do something else when you have a chance?
Here’s what I see, and it’s not a criticism on you or any of your blue brothers and sisters. It’s just facts, things that happened. You have the inevitable backlash to BLM which was Back the Blue, which was nice and wonderful. But then I see 12 policemen staked out, guarding the giant BLM banner DeBlasio painted in the street in NY. I saw a crowd come to some guy’s house in the mid-west. They are calling him names and threatening to burn his house down and kill him. But the cops are called and they come and arrest him! They did nothing about the violent mob waiting outside his house. He was in his house and grabbed a shotgun to protect his house and the cops arrested him? I see police arresting gym owners for the crime of opening their business because the lock-downs instituted were unconstitutional and they knew it. I see cops arresting restaurant owners being arrested for staying open past “curfew” but mobs of people let loose to destroy, burn and loot without any police involvement, while arresting normal citizens for self-defense or mere civil disobedience and the maniacs let loose and not arrested. I am sure you’ve seen all of this too. And I understand what side of the fence you are on. You can only do you job, prosecutions are left to the lawyers and judges. So how do you square these two different realities. Do cops really have so little voice that they cannot even make on the spot decisions to do what is obviously the right thing?
What is the culture like now? Can you say no? Can yall say you will not do certain things if you know the wrong person is getting arrested?
I am super curious, I would love to interview you or have some sort of conversation where we can talk about all these kinds of things and get your real perspective. To me, your the single most valuable person, information-wise, on this forum. You know all the things I can merely speculate about. And I would love to understand it from your point of view.
Actually, I think it’s working spectacularly. You have these local politicians bending over backwards to cave to these nut-jobs. Violence does work. These aren’t protests. Burning, looting, shooting, killing are not protests and they aren’t allowed anywhere in the world, but it is yielding results. Only a very tiny minority of these people have been caught and punished, the rest have succeeded beyond their wildest expectations.
Don’t expect it to go anywhere.
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Ignoring the fact that BLM is as broad as the term American, what tangible policies/laws/etc from the extreme “BLM agenda” have been implemented (not just given lip service by politicians hoping to appear woke)?
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Zero, they have little to no mainstream traction. BLM is as much a phrase as it is a movement. I know a few kids who make posts on social media with #BLM hashtags. They have nothing to do with the movement, rather they wish to showcase they’re against racism.
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These are the minority, which is why I made sure to use the term “BLM extremists”. You’re going to have idiots from any movement doing stupid shit. The problem is that the clear headed ones aren’t distancing themselves from them.
As has been said, nothing has changed. The extremists, are, from what I’ve been observing, actually lowering their international reputation.
Disclaimer:
Again, I do not know if the BLM movement(not the shit done by extremists and opportunists) is warranted since I don’ live in the US so I’M NOT COMMENTING ON THE LEGITAMACY OF THE MOVEMENT ITSELF. All I’m saying is that if you want a movement to gain real mainstream traction, you need to drop the loons.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/3317862001
At some point, continuing to acknowledge that the bad actors are a fringe part of your organization and apologizing for them is worse than simply considering them separate and not apologizing for them. Kinda like normal religious folks not apologizing for the acts of the crazy fundamentalists who they see as wholey separate.
The bad actors have been denounced. But apparently not loudly or often enough for some.
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I mostly agree, but this shouldn’t even be a democrat thing IMO. It’s a social movement.
It should be the members of the movement itself denouncing them. I’m aware that this is not a centralized one, but even so, the various non-violent factions have leaders. They should denounce them whenever they see the bad shit happening.
I believe the article says that various local leaders have denounced any violence/riots. And I remember reading/hearing much of the same from local black leaders on NPR and other media. But, like you said, it’s a very decentralized social movement so no one really has a lot of sway… Amongst the bad folks or in the media.
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(Again, a disclaimer that I’m only talking about how a movement can gain mainstream traction, not whether I think it is a legitimate one for those who have a problem reading words and shit.)
What would be a good move is to turn this bi-partisan since Trump is out of office. Select some smart representatives to go on Fox or something but for fuck’s sake, don’t go argue with Tucker Calson lol, for example.
Explain the cause. Don’t overexaggerate shit. Be reasonable, well spoken and respectful when representing the movement.
Go do some tie-ups with republicans who need to salvage their reputations after being seen as Trump zealots for so long. Don’t treat them as the enemy. They’re politicians, no ideologues.
Lot’s of things they can do.
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No mainstream traction ? The NBA, MLB and even NASCAR have put the BLM shit on their brand and playing fields and floors. Pandering to perpetually angry, misguided, hateful, low IQ vermin is a disaster in the making.
You have dumb shit puppets like Lebron claim they’re being hunted down. Eye roll. These mentally deficient p.o.s. do not live or function in any objective reality.
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Politicians across the country have kowtowed, acquiesced and bowed down to these low IQ mobs time and again allowing billions in destruction and at the costs of numerous lives. So what’s the difference if they’re not actually implementing policy ? Oh wait… The “Defund the police” is actually being done and will only be the beginning as these worthless parasites are NEVER satisfied. These are mentally ill fringe psychotics being given a voice and being catered to.
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I’m on SWAT so thankfully I won’t have to deal with people not complying with any restrictions.
We have the toughest job in America right now. When we do our jobs people bitch… When we don’t people bitch. We just can’t win. Now we have half baked intellectuals and leftist window licking scum trying to defund us. Most police fuck ups are due to being under trained or poorly trained. These policies will only further harm the only community these p.o.s. claim to care about, black America, and they’ll in turn just blame us or some “systemic” boogeyman. The left destroys everything and nobody does anything about it. An absolute cancer.
Believe me… None of us want to do any unjust harm to people or businesses trying to survive this pandemic. I’ve actually yet to hear of any city police citing or shutting down anybody or any businesses.
It’s just a very shitty time to be a cop. I’m gonna stick it out. 7 years to go.
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I understand you’re angry, but in reality there is no objective literature to indicate BLM supporters/left wing politicians have deficits in IQ. As a matter of fact a college education is correlated with voting progressive. On a side note, have you been to a modern university? They’re like left wing echo chambers, the shit I’ve heard my brothers classmates talk about is astounding. They complain about societal patriarchy, rape culture, religious persecution within Australia yet refuse to condemn third world, at times theocratic middle eastern dictatorships. Apparently LEGITIMATE oppression of women, human rights violations don’t matter and are chalked up to “cultural differences”… WHAT! Prepare to get shat on if you forget to use capitol abbreviations for the term “Indigenous Australian” (IA), but when asked about religious discrimination against Jews “i.e do you condemn Jeremy Corbyn for anti-semitism” the answer will be “NO!”
It also appears as if jews are exempt from the “victim card” status quo within the far left. A strong anti-isreal/borderline anti-semitic sentiment appears to be brewing, interesting as this is typically characteristic of the far right. It’s frustrating as all hell considering I do identify as left wing.
SOME left wing politicians/individuals support defuding the police. I would support defunding the highway patrol in Aus, people get tickets in my state for literally driving like 1-2 miles over the speed limit all the time. I’d support defunding resources in relation to producing sniffer dogs/festival security and red light cameras. Defunding SWAT… not a chance. Granted I’d be okay with task forces diverting resources to tackle other issues as opposed to fighting a never ending, failing war on drugs.
Agreed, there is a lot of anti-police sentiment going on. I’d argue being angry at police for enforcing the law at times isn’t related to police at all, take that up with parliament; people don’t seem to realise this. Otherwise it would appear the anti-police sentiment has been an emotion based response as opposed to a rational one. I’m all for enacting societal reform as to reduce incarceration/arrest rates and I’m certainly pro abolishing “for profit” prisons. At the same time, I haven’t seen any evidence disbanding the police force would equate to a good outcome. It certainly didn’t work in South African townships, then again the police over there are useless/corrupt (it’s a catch-22)
I WAS anti-police for a while due to “brotherhood” mentality at times present within the force and the nanny state, overbearing police presence present in NSW. I’ve now come to realise this isn’t’ representative of all police, and narratives fed through the media (i.e police brutality videos) likely represent a tiny fragment of police/civilian interactions and I believe a level of law and order certainly needs to be kept in order for society to remain civilised. Without police/an adequate alternative it’s more or less free for all.
Certain laws present in numerous Aussie states such as body cam laws (police can turn off body cameras and aren’t required to hand in footage for police brutality cases in court) irritate the fuck out of me. Once again, this is to be taken up with the state governments. Though it would be nice if the state police were on board with changing these laws, rather they’ve fought tooth and nail to keep body-cam footage out of the courts… seems suspicious to me
It should also be noted… the way you speak of those who harbour left wing ideologies. I’m left wing, I don’t support violence, looting, rioting etc. There’s a spectrum, a minority of the left harbour radical ideologies akin to how the vast majority of the right don’t don ku klux klan costumes and burn crosses.
“I have decided to leave myself, perhaps in a year or two rather than the four or so I had planned on,” he said. “Being a cop isn’t the same as it was yesterday. My profession changed on me; I didn’t change on my profession. To me, I didn’t quit on society; it quit on me.”
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