[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
Has anyone ever seen conservatives sitting out anywhere protesting Soros, AlGore, and other rich liberals when they do anything? I know I’ve heard of conservatives standing outside of and protesting abortion clinics but at least they are protesting against murder. I’ve never once entertained the thought of joining a protest. It seems only mostly liberals engage in the exercise of mass protest against the rights of others to do what they wish. Flame away lefties, flame away.[/quote]
You might have had a point had you not betrayed your bias. [/quote]
Every human is biased. Doesn’t make the point less true. If the Steelers win the Super Bowl next year and I, as a Steelers fan, declare they are the best team in the world, my bias towards them doesn’t negate the fact they are the best.
[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
Has anyone ever seen conservatives sitting out anywhere protesting Soros, AlGore, and other rich liberals when they do anything? I know I’ve heard of conservatives standing outside of and protesting abortion clinics but at least they are protesting against murder. I’ve never once entertained the thought of joining a protest. It seems only mostly liberals engage in the exercise of mass protest against the rights of others to do what they wish. Flame away lefties, flame away.[/quote]
You might have had a point had you not betrayed your bias. [/quote]
Every human is biased. Doesn’t make the point less true. If the Steelers win the Super Bowl next year and I, as a Steelers fan, declare they are the best team in the world, my bias towards them doesn’t negate the fact they are the best.
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This is not correct. If you are trying to make an objective observation then bias is irrelevant. If you were able to think objectively then you would see the obvious errors in your post.
I’ve never claimed to be fair and balanced. I would truly like examples of mass conservative protests against a private citizen or corporation because I have never witnessed or been a part of one. It always seems to be liberals who are protesting private citizens, corporations, or conservative speakers.
[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
Has anyone ever seen conservatives sitting out anywhere protesting Soros, AlGore, and other rich liberals when they do anything? I know I’ve heard of conservatives standing outside of and protesting abortion clinics but at least they are protesting against murder. I’ve never once entertained the thought of joining a protest. It seems only mostly liberals engage in the exercise of mass protest against the rights of others to do what they wish. Flame away lefties, flame away.[/quote]
[quote]Steve Doocy has a question for his viewers. “What do Al Gore, Yassir Arafat and that crazy Jimmy Carter all have in common?” crows the morning host of the American cable channel Fox News. His co-hosts look at him eagerly, half-emptied coffee cups in reach. Doocy waits a beat before answering his own question with a smug yet nauseated smile. “The Nobel Peace Prize.”
Then Doocy produces a chart to illustrate that “this award” is nothing else but an “anti-Bush” trophy – a deliberate, political affront to United States President George W. Bush. The chart he shows is a list of previous Peace Nobel laureates. Kofi Annan: Bush’s nemesis as United Nations Secretary General. Jimmy Carter: left-wing kook. Mohamed ElBaradei: Bush’s adversary at the nuclear UN watchdog agency IAEA. Doocy sighs ostentatiously.[/quote]
I didn’t see anything about out and out protests, but I didn’t really look. While I am the first to call out the hypocrisy of claiming one Team Purple side does something that other Team Purple side does not (I view them as the same of course) it doesn’t make the link any less outrageous.
I bet that hospital would still treat those people because doctors usually treat everyone including dumbasses.
[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
I’ve never claimed to be fair and balanced. I would truly like examples of mass conservative protests against a private citizen or corporation because I have never witnessed or been a part of one. It always seems to be liberals who are protesting private citizens, corporations, or conservative speakers.[/quote]
“Correcting” above post (mine, not yours).
I would say most of the early Tea Party protests were predominantly anti-Obama wouldn’t you? I think the issue with the private citizen part is both sides have what they consider political enemy bigwigs and those people will get protested (Soros, Bloomberg, Koch, etc.)
Glenn Beck Washington DC rally’s come to mind, but I have no idea if those were more protest or prayer? They were a while back and I can’t recall.
All of this like I said doesn’t dismiss the moronic people protesting payments to a fucking hospital.
Both sides do participate in political protests. I’m referring more to the type of protests like occupy wall street, animal rights and environmental sit-ins, and the the sheer stupidity of protesting a person who donated a large sum of money to an institution that is in the business of saving lives. Even when some conservative advocates protesting a movie or wine from a particular country nothing really materializes. I’ve never seen thousands of conservatives bussed into a place to protest a liberal Hollywood donor or any ridiculousness such as that. But it seems to be a commonplace occurrence amongst those with a liberal bent.
[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
Both sides do participate in political protests. I’m referring more to the type of protests like occupy wall street, animal rights and environmental sit-ins, and the the sheer stupidity of protesting a person who donated a large sum of money to an institution that is in the business of saving lives. Even when some conservative advocates protesting a movie or wine from a particular country nothing really materializes. I’ve never seen thousands of conservatives bussed into a place to protest a liberal Hollywood donor or any ridiculousness such as that. But it seems to be a commonplace occurrence amongst those with a liberal bent.[/quote]
Progressives are more naturally activists. And not just at the protest level. Teaching, entertainment and news media, are all attractive avenues to change the culture, “make progress,” etc. And it works.
[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
Both sides do participate in political protests. I’m referring more to the type of protests like occupy wall street, animal rights and environmental sit-ins, and the the sheer stupidity of protesting a person who donated a large sum of money to an institution that is in the business of saving lives. Even when some conservative advocates protesting a movie or wine from a particular country nothing really materializes. I’ve never seen thousands of conservatives bussed into a place to protest a liberal Hollywood donor or any ridiculousness such as that. But it seems to be a commonplace occurrence amongst those with a liberal bent.[/quote]
Then you really have no argument because I’m sure that people on the other side see right wing protests as being just as stupid.
[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
Both sides do participate in political protests. I’m referring more to the type of protests like occupy wall street, animal rights and environmental sit-ins, and the the sheer stupidity of protesting a person who donated a large sum of money to an institution that is in the business of saving lives. Even when some conservative advocates protesting a movie or wine from a particular country nothing really materializes. I’ve never seen thousands of conservatives bussed into a place to protest a liberal Hollywood donor or any ridiculousness such as that. But it seems to be a commonplace occurrence amongst those with a liberal bent.[/quote]
Then you really have no argument because I’m sure that people on the other side see right wing protests as being just as stupid. [/quote]
What protests are you referring to? I should have clarified my statement and said political rallies instead. Plenty of conservatives show up to rallies to show support for a political cause. That’s the difference. You never see news footage of thousands of conservative activists protesting some person or company they don’t like. The idea of a bunch of right wingers standing outside a union hall protesting seems oddly absurd.
[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
Both sides do participate in political protests. I’m referring more to the type of protests like occupy wall street, animal rights and environmental sit-ins, and the the sheer stupidity of protesting a person who donated a large sum of money to an institution that is in the business of saving lives. Even when some conservative advocates protesting a movie or wine from a particular country nothing really materializes. I’ve never seen thousands of conservatives bussed into a place to protest a liberal Hollywood donor or any ridiculousness such as that. But it seems to be a commonplace occurrence amongst those with a liberal bent.[/quote]
Then you really have no argument because I’m sure that people on the other side see right wing protests as being just as stupid. [/quote]
What protests are you referring to? I should have clarified my statement and said political rallies instead. Plenty of conservatives show up to rallies to show support for a political cause. That’s the difference. You never see news footage of thousands of conservative activists protesting some person or company they don’t like. The idea of a bunch of right wingers standing outside a union hall protesting seems oddly absurd.
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If a rally is, a rally against something, then isn’t that another way of saying protest? Have we not seen “rallies” against gun control, abortion, gay marriage and higher taxes? People do things because they are people. Labeling a human behavior as liberal or conservative is to go through life with blinders on.
Progressives are more naturally activists. And not just at the protest level. Teaching, entertainment and news media, are all attractive avenues to change the culture, “make progress,” etc. And it works.[/quote]
The left isn’t the only side that attempts to make changes based on beliefs in education. I’m an education consultant and it is a pretty big myth that every teacher ever is pushing some liberal agenda. Most teachers aren’t pushing any agenda at all unless they are doing a poor job. In a perfect world a conservative or a liberal teacher would never bring their opinion into the classroom to try and influence young minds. Kids need multiple sides presented so they can make rational choices for themselves.
On the same line apparently Frozen (which I haven’t seen in fairness) is trying to turn all of our kids gay. Thank god I didn’t have to see stuff like that growing up or I would undoubtedly be trying to marry a man instead of a woman in June (which would require me to move from Kansas).
Damn animated movies trying to turn our kids gay. Bad enough when Beauty and the Beast was telling our kids to be attracted to animals and Little Mermaid was promoting man and half woman half fish sex.
This country has really lost its values when these are the type of movies we are allowing our kids to see. Don’t tell me Peter Pan wasn’t gay, did you see what he was wearing?! The Jungle Book was a liberal plot to have our kids raised by nature as well.
Have you ever watched any shows on the Disney channel? My daughter used to and one thing I noticed was that the boys always seemed to be very effeminate if not straight up gay. I’m not sure if this was how the actors were directed to play their parts or if they chose actors whose masculinity was questionable.
Are you purposefully missing the point I made? Yes, both sides have their causes that they stand up for. I’m not arguing against that fact. It is my observation though, that only Democrats will gather in large groups, often times having been bussed in from hundreds of miles away, to protest, not a governmental institution or politician, but a private citizen or company. None of the examples linked have shown otherwise. Only the party of “tolerance” gets together to protest some civilian or company they dislike.
[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
Are you purposefully missing the point I made? Yes, both sides have their causes that they stand up for. I’m not arguing against that fact. It is my observation though, that only Democrats will gather in large groups, often times having been bussed in from hundreds of miles away, to protest, not a governmental institution or politician, but a private citizen or company. None of the examples linked have shown otherwise. Only the party of “tolerance” gets together to protest some civilian or company they dislike. [/quote]
I feel like you are talking to yourself here. Is this directed at me?
[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
Are you purposefully missing the point I made? Yes, both sides have their causes that they stand up for. I’m not arguing against that fact. It is my observation though, that only Democrats will gather in large groups, often times having been bussed in from hundreds of miles away, to protest, not a governmental institution or politician, but a private citizen or company. None of the examples linked have shown otherwise. Only the party of “tolerance” gets together to protest some civilian or company they dislike. [/quote]
I feel like you are talking to yourself here. Is this directed at me?[/quote]
You, zecarlo, and any liberals who wish to opine. I see the point in your examples that conservatives can be dogmatic in their beliefs but what I am curious to know is why it is mainly liberals who direct their efforts of protestation towards private individuals and companies.
[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
Are you purposefully missing the point I made? Yes, both sides have their causes that they stand up for. I’m not arguing against that fact. It is my observation though, that only Democrats will gather in large groups, often times having been bussed in from hundreds of miles away, to protest, not a governmental institution or politician, but a private citizen or company. None of the examples linked have shown otherwise. Only the party of “tolerance” gets together to protest some civilian or company they dislike. [/quote]
I feel like you are talking to yourself here. Is this directed at me?[/quote]
You, zecarlo, and any liberals who wish to opine. I see the point in your examples that conservatives can be dogmatic in their beliefs but what I am curious to know is why it is mainly liberals who direct their efforts of protestation towards private individuals and companies.
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I am not a liberal. Both sides CAN be dogmatic in their beliefs. I dislike posts where right minded people say “liberals do X” all the time when their side also does X all the time. It is precisely what keeps us constantly in the ebb and flow of being stuck with two parties.
Soros, Al Gore, teachers unions, all sorts of liberal things are constantly railed against by conservatives. Soros and Gore are both private individuals. I do not know if people have ever shown up to protest in mass these individuals, but I don’t know that I would claim it is a feather in the cap for Republicans if this has not happened.
Both sides attempt to stoke the fire by making enemies of people and companies who run counter to what they believe. Fear is how Democrats and Republicans raise so much money in support of their side. You have to have fear to get people to donate large sums to a campaign. It’s why as a Libertarian it is hard to be successful politcally. People don’t want to think. They want to buy into Liberals vs. Conservatives pick one side and like it. Democrat or Republican.
For fucks sake you have an entire channel that demonizes these people. You forgetting Glenn Beck’s documentary over Soros?
This guy had a ton of people following him at rallies from the right.