Can someone direct me to an article or thread regarding proper dosage of Anadrol 50 and Winstrol so that NO side effects arise. Or any other stacks of other chems that are effective.
Thanks.
Dbol+Winny actually would fit my wants a bit more. I’m doing as much research as possible, any help would be apprecieted.
Forgot to put my goals ect.
I’m currently 18 years old, looking to put on about 20-40lbs of lean mass.
I’m looking for a easy, safe, effective steriod cycle.
Since I’m a newb at this, I found that a cyble of 100mg of deca once every 4 days, for about 8 weeks works well. OR maybe moving up by 100mg after a few weeks, then slowling down before week 8.
Any comments? Flames? Cycle recomendations?
You’re only 18?
Gee…from some of the shit you’ve been talking around here I just naturally figured you to be older…cause you should be to yak the smack like you’ve been woofin’ it.
As far as gear…why don’t you just train for a while longer until your natural T isn’t pumping so hard? Just eat a little more. Use the time to research what want. Drol is kind of strong…
[quote]GriffinC wrote:
Forgot to put my goals ect.
I’m currently 18 years old, looking to put on about 20-40lbs of lean mass.
I’m looking for a easy, safe, effective steriod cycle.
Since I’m a newb at this, I found that a cyble of 100mg of deca once every 4 days, for about 8 weeks works well. OR maybe moving up by 100mg after a few weeks, then slowling down before week 8.
Any comments? Flames? Cycle recomendations?[/quote]
[quote]Joe Weider wrote:
You’re only 18?
Gee…from some of the shit you’ve been talking around here I just naturally figured you to be older…cause you should be to yak the smack like you’ve been woofin’ it.
As far as gear…why don’t you just train for a while longer until your natural T isn’t pumping so hard? Just eat a little more. Use the time to research what want. Drol is kind of strong…
GriffinC wrote:
Forgot to put my goals ect.
I’m currently 18 years old, looking to put on about 20-40lbs of lean mass.
I’m looking for a easy, safe, effective steriod cycle.
Since I’m a newb at this, I found that a cyble of 100mg of deca once every 4 days, for about 8 weeks works well. OR maybe moving up by 100mg after a few weeks, then slowling down before week 8.
Any comments? Flames? Cycle recomendations?
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Would 8weeks of Deca hurt? I’m just trying to increase my knowlage on the subject. The more info the better!
Bro, its clear you need to learn a bunch more, and experimenting on yourself is not the best way to do it.
If you want no side effects on steroids, then the optimum dosage is 0mg/week. If you want to minimize side effects, research proper drug selection, cycle construction and use of ancillary drugs.
And 8 weeks of deca probably isnt going to hurt anything other than your ability to get an erection, but it probably isnt going to be too helpful either. Read some more, ask some questions, then make a decision with a full understanding. Otherwise you are setting yourself up for some serious trouble. Steroids are very strong drugs, not toys.
[quote]GriffinC wrote:
Can someone direct me to an article or thread regarding proper dosage of Anadrol 50 and Winstrol so that NO side effects arise. Or any other stacks of other chems that are effective.
Thanks.
Dbol+Winny actually would fit my wants a bit more. I’m doing as much research as possible, any help would be apprecieted.[/quote]
At 18 you’re too young to start using AAS but not too young to start educate yourself so that when you’re 25 you know what to take and at what doses.
Here’s a link to a LOT of good info.
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I’m currently 18 years old…[/quote]
You should have lied LMAO.
[quote]GriffinC wrote:
I’m currently 18 years old, looking to put on about 20-40lbs of lean mass.
Any comments? Flames? Cycle recomendations?[/quote]
work out for a few years, making sure you eat enough and do heavy compound lifts. That’ll put 20 lbs on you.
[quote]MassNutrition wrote:
I’m currently 18 years old…
You should have lied LMAO.
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Had no clue there was an age requirement.
Any reason why? Any of you guys gunna HELP me learn stuff (nice article btw). Instead of just saying NO or WAIT A FEW YEARS just simply tell me what’s wrong.
[quote]GriffinC wrote:
Had no clue there was an age requirement.
Any reason why? Any of you guys gunna HELP me learn stuff (nice article btw). Instead of just saying NO or WAIT A FEW YEARS just simply tell me what’s wrong.[/quote]
I kind of thought we had?
You’re 18. Your natural test should be high anyway. Just work hard and eat for a few years. Use that time to research. For example: Drol is a kind of harsh drug. So when you pick that as your first cycle and then say you don’t want any sides, and you don’t mention any PCT or anything. People are gonna wonder.
Ok.
Here’s what I’ve researched and CAN get my hands on.
EQUIDREN
DECA NOR 50
D-BOL
LIQUID ANODROL
WINNI-V TABS
I do have a bottle of M in storage, which may come in handy once I’m off the cycle.
I’m thinking about EQUIDREN and DECA, or DECA and D-BOL. I’m really trying to find a the safest stack possible for newbs. I CAN get my hands on SUST, but I hear it’s garbage. Any advice would be nice. I’ve read countless articles on this site and billions of posts. I’m still googling every possible word combination to come up with more steroid info. Basically I’m finding that IF I used them correctly then I should have little to worry about.
Any and all advice is welcome.
Update:
Most of you probably don’t care, but some of you may be interested!
I’ve taken intrest in WINNY V+ Dbol. Why? “However, D-Bol lacks the c-17th carbon configuration thus making it completely safe with very little hepatoxicity”
and
“Sold under the trade name WINNI V, this new beta-mix is among the safest new orals to hit the market because of the lack of any C17 chemical configuration.”
Seems like a safe choice for me. I just have a few questions.
Would I need a T-booster after I get off of the cycle?
Would M come in handy? If so, when should I use it?
I haven’t found any good cycles for newbs using Winny and Dbol, so if anyone could point me in the right direction or recommend a dosage, that would be nice.
Equidren seems like another good product, but from what I’ve read, WinnyV seems like a better choice.
Masterbolan looks good, but sounds kinda harsh on the body.
I’m not touching Anadrol, I’ve heard too many side effects come with this stuff. If someone DOES know how to use it correctly with other stacks, please let me know.
Deca Nor 50 seems perfect for me. I’d love to use it, but if I can stay safe with other stacks and get better results, then theirs no point in using it. But if I can’t come up with any other low side-effect stack, then I will be using this.
Look up some posts on using steroids. 99.9% of the time the age you’re at already produces some interesting (fucked up) mood swings ie hormone fluctuations. Combine that with the down time (and with drol ALL THE TIME) on whatever steroid you choose no matter how safe it may seem, and you’re a very good candidate for a number of things.
For example, you can be like the number of guys I know who can’t train for shit without steroids because they started to young/too soon, and never learned better. On a real negative note you can be another story on the news we’ve all been shaking our heads at lately. “Teenager dies (commits suicide) from steroid use”. Or you can be the guy who knows he’s been stuck at the same height since he was 18 because he started juicing too soon (this one’s debateable).
I’m sure there’s many other examples. Here’s my advice (not a flame so hear me out), you need to do way more research. I know you said you’ve read alot but if you did I doubt you would have chosen drol for your first cycle, or deca alone ect. Think about the step you are considering taking SERIOUSLY. You can tell yourself whatever you want but once you cross over it’s unlikely you’ll come back. Furthermore, at that age I’d say you’re just not ready for the responsibility that comes with it. So after you finish rolling your eyes a few hundred times and cursing me. Read this a few hundred more times and let it sink in.
Griff…I am only 22 so I am also too young by most peoples standards. I just finished my first injectable cycle recently and will be posting my results soon. But, you should know that I have been researching AAS since I was your age. This means I researched with books, talked to too many people to name, read most of the articles on this site and it took me a little over 3 years before I did my first inject.
Honestly take the advise given on this thread and take the next few years to try and max out your body naturally and learn as much as you can before you ever put a needle into your glute or a toxic oral( like Dbol) into your mouth.
Sorry for the long post but here is more…your info on your orals is a little off. Your kidneys will tell you pretty soon into your cycle that the combo of orals you have proposed is quite toxic. After you experince a back pump from your bloated kidneys for the first time you will be a believer.
Also like someone told you the dose of Deca you suggested will do nothing but shut down your natural T production and then not be providing any exogenus T to replace it.
Start asking more questions and good luck.
DA
Ouch. I hear what your all saying, and I’m taking it into deep concideration. And I thank you for the advice.
So taking any one steroid alone, like deca, would honestly not do me any good?
The more details you guys give me, the more I think about it. I find it hard to listen to someone who just says “train more” or “you’re not ready, go work out”. I like it when people break it down to the point where I have to do more research just to understand what their saying. So by all means, rip my idea up!
What exactly is wrong with taking deca every 4 days for an 8 week cycle? It would be around 100-200mg/ml a week. I’ve found that is a good way for a newbie to start out.
[quote]GriffinC wrote:
Ok.
Here’s what I’ve researched and CAN get my hands on.
EQUIDREN
DECA NOR 50
D-BOL
LIQUID ANODROL
WINNI-V TABS
Are you serious? Don’t waste your money! That’s bogus gear sold by Impact Nutrition or one of their co-brand names.
If you still want to use that expensive crap just do what they say on their website.
Deca by itself is weak to began with but, at 100-200mg ew is pretty useless. It would be enough like I said to shut you down but be too little to actually give you any thing you would notice. Especially since its half life is 16days.
Asuming you don’t quite have a grasp on the half life of these drugs, this means that once you inject 100mg of deca it will be cut in half in 16 days this means only half of each dose is able to be used in your body in those 16days. To break it down even more, in theory only 25mgs of that injection will be aviable for use in your body for the first 8days after that 100mg inject.
So at 100mg every 4 days your body would take pretty close to your entire 8 week cycle just to reach a helpful amount of deca in your system, if it even builds up enough at all to be of any real use.
A 16 day half life also means that after your last inject it will take close to a month for the deca to clear out of your system enough for your body to start recovering.
Hope this super long post helps.
DA