[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
ndiddy85 wrote:
Like I said I stand corrected. I just don’t like the way Biotest is going about hyping these products, like we are missing out on something great, and than claiming they might never be released.
If it’s part of a big marketing plan, kudos on a job well done, but I would rather these supplements remain behind closed doors, than hearing about what we are missing out on and what we cant get.
Thanks. But actually it is ascribing too much credit to think of these things as choreographed-in-every-detail marketing plans.
For example the products or potential products I’ve been involved with that had delays or actually never were marketed despite “hype”, by no means was there a desire to be slow in releasing or not to release. The biggest example I suppose was T-17E, which was expected to be released quite soon after I joined Biotest. (It was an ether of testosterone, which believe it or not in those days oddly enough met the letter of the law.) It’s not that the stuff didn’t exist. It was something worth being enthused about, and when I and others at Biotest said we’d be releasing it soon we certainly thought so. Considering that we’d quite promptly received a sample from the manufacturer and they expressed nothing about this seeming problematic to them, all seemed well.
But it turned out that they could never get the concentration of testosterone itself down to undetectable levels, which would have been required for it to be legal. They kept thinking and saying they could, something like a YEAR went by while I kept saying Real Soon Now, but it never happened and finally we had to say, nope, not happening. And as for myself I said I’d never give a prediction on product release date after all the times I was wrong on that one.
On Anaconda, I can’t remember if it was last summer or the summer before that that I did a fair amount of work on one aspect or rather then-intended aspect of it. (I was not successful – as time went on it became learned that that aspect wasn’t at all called for anyway, or rather the same goal is now being accomplished in a far better way.) The product was real, but the fact is it wasn’t ready.
As for it being ready now – well not in the sense of retail-quantities having been produced but in terms of very limited production having been done and it being possible to produce more if putting the money into it – it is a fact that the manufacturing cost is ridiculous. Ordinarily it would totally rule out launching a product. If I’d designed a product that I found out cost this much to manufacture, I wouldn’t even ever bother mentioning it to Tim. I’d consider it DOA on cost.
The only reason Anaconda I think will be released anyway is because of pricing it in a manner that if done across the line, would leave the overhead unpaid. You know, people’s salaries and things like that. It’s possible to do that on one product in the line, but, though Tim never said this next thing to me in particular, I can certainly see the reluctance to write big checks to make a costly production run and then discover that hey, people won’t pay that. [/quote]
Thanks for your reply and for showing a little insight to what goes on. I enjoy the fact that you are straight forward in letting us know what goes on behind the scenes. I just wish more Biotest employees were as open, I just tire of some author or moderator responding with posts like “I cant live without this supplement” or claiming to have gained “close to 30 pounds of lean weight” while using protocols we are not privileged enough to use or see.
I love Biotest supplements and will continue to buy them cause they are the best quality in my opinion, I just wish EVERYTHING involving the company didnt have to be so secret.
