Anabolic or Androgenic First?

Pharma
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One thing has been bugging me lately.

Anabolic or Androgenic first?

A little background info!!!

In the past my best cycles where I have kept the most muscle mass and strength post cycle have been around 25 days long. I’ve found that changing the AAS combinations and ratios during the cycle gives me greater results that sticking with the same throughout. I know some of you may disagree with changing things with only a short cycle but it does seem to make a difference in my gains.

I used to complete 10 days with a highly anabolic profile and mild androgenic.

Then 5 days transition phase using a balance between androgenic and anabolic.

Finally the last 10 days with high androgenic and milder anabolic.

Example. I would use anti e?s but this is just for demonstration purposes

Days 1-10 High Anabolic
50mg Test Prop / day
100mg NPP / day
50mg Oral Turinabol / day

Days 11-15 Transition
100mg Test Prop / day
50mg NPP / day
25mg Oral Turinabol / day
50mg Winny Caps / day

Days 16-25 High Androgenic
75mg Test Prop / day
75mg Tren Acetate / day
100mg Winny caps / day

This was in an attempt to?

A)Gain quantity mass early on and.

B) Solidify the mass achieved improve on quality of mass.

ANABOLIC BEFORE ANDROGENIC!

I always believed that the best results were achieved this way around. I have recently read a few articles which stated Androgenic before anabolic resulted in greater retention of lean tissue mass post cycle.

This “guru with 20+ years experience” concluded that the best mass gains were achieved with androgenic compounds and that in order to maintain those gains highly anabolic compounds were required (Huh!!).
I thought this must be a typo but he had sample cycles starting with Tren + test and finishing with Nandrolone!

So should I run my next cycle backward or stick with the usual?

Any body like to add their 5 cense or 2 pence worth?

Thanks Spartan.

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Spartan,

I can’t answer your question exactly because my cycles are more “traditional” (i.e. 12 - 16 weeks), but I’ve had the best results with simple combinations of androgens and anabolics used simultaneously. For example, Test (prop, enan, cyp, whatever) with winstrol & tren was a great cycle for me for gaining lean mass. I never seperated androgens from anabolics just because I felt like there was some kind of synergistic effect. I’ve always been told that a cycle of pure anabolics isn’t as effective as one that combines both. Not sure if that’s accurate, just what I’ve heard.

Try it both ways I guess and see which works best for you.

  • TF
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I dont completely seperate anabolics from androgenics, obviously both traits are required for maximum results. I simply lean toward one or the other.

Ill run it backward and see what happens.

Thanks bro