Anabolic Diet

For the record… AD is NOT designed to be a ketogenic diet. After the initial break in phase and becoming fully fat adapted, you should not be in ketosis.

Prepare to be educated by the Good Doctor DiPasquale:

NM: You’d think that it would make sense to have protein available while under stress, but a lot of people look at protein just for repair when resting. The thinking is that only carbs and fat are used during exercise.

MD: That’s bullshit! The whole business about gluconeogenesis and ketosis is very mixed up. A lot of these so-called “experts” don’t really have their facts straight. They read a couple of studies, do a test or two, and draw a conclusion. I don’t know everything, but when I research something, I like to do as many studies as possible. In my book on proteins and amino acids, I had over 1,700 references. Even that only skims the surface, but at least it narrows down the variables. My new book should have over 2,100 references! This is the way to approach the effectiveness of a product or a diet plan?not to go off halfcocked. I’m working on several formulations that I believe will be effective for several sports-related applications. I may put out my own line of sports supplements called “Coaching Solutions” which will only be products that I believe in. I’m also thinking about putting out an “Anabolic Diet” supplement line. They may not work for everyone, but all I can say is that “this is the best that I can do?this is what I take.”

NM: That was the principle which Tim and TC used when putting together the Biotest line. Tell me, you were one of the first proponents of the high-fat/low-carb diet. What’s the main difference between the Anabolic Diet that you developed and the presently popular Ketogenic Diet?

MD: When I wrote the Anabolic Diet, I wasn’t trying to present an academic hypothesis. I wanted to write about something that would work. These days, there seems to be a lot of emphasis on ketosis, but it’s all pretty useless. Staying in a ketogenic state basically means that you haven’t adapted to the diet. If ketones are being excreted in the urine (which is how you determine ketosis) by using “keto-sticks,” then you’re not utilizing ketones for energy very efficiently. Someone who is optimally using fat for fuel should not have ketones in their urine.

NM: Whoa, let me back this up for a second. So what you’re saying is, if one were efficiently using ketones for energy and lipolysis on a carb depleted diet…it shouldn’t produce a state of ketosis?

MD: That’s correct. If you’ve adapted fully to the diet.

NM: So it’s not preferable to be in ketosis if the objective is fat loss?

MD: That’s right. This is where I differ from everybody else and why the Anabolic Diet is so effective where others are not. Ketosis is very catabolic! First of all, the Anabolic Diet keeps you at 30 grams of carbs a day, five days a week. That keeps you out of ketosis, but the body begins to adapt to using fat for fuel. On the weekend, you can eat as many carbs as you like. That’s the anabolic phase, but the body is still in a fatburning mode. Once there’s a spillover of carb calories to fat storage, after no more than 48 hours, you go back to 30 carbohydrate grams a day. Basically, this is meant to be a diet that can be followed easily. Who wants to wake up at night to eat or spend each hour of the day watching exactly how many calories you eat? What’s interesting is that I’ve found that triglyceride levels rise on the days when high carbs are ingested.

NM: That pretty much takes the theory of only saturated fats being the culprit to increasing triglyceride levels and bites it right in the ass, doesn’t it?

MD: Exactly! Interesting conclusion, isn’t it? It’s made me go back and do some rewrites in my book. It’s fascinating?but I won’t lie to you and tell you that I have an explanation for it. Maybe as you start to carb up, the body will stop burning fat and starts depending on all of those carbs coming in, so it makes sense that if your body is still in a fatburning mode at first, it’s still accumulating intramuscular triglycerides. Then, when you stop using them, they begin to increase. I don’t know. It’s just a theory. Another advantage of the Anabolic Diet is that you don’t have to worry about getting enough essential fatty acids. There’s no need to supplement. You’ll get plenty from the diet itself. I don’t make a distinction between saturated and unsaturated, essential or nonessential fats.

NM: What about saturated fats raising LDL?

MD: If you’re a bodybuilder trying to achieve a consistently low body fat, I don’t see much of a difference, and I’ve done the tests to prove it. But everyone should be tested for their enzymatic peculiarities. Another advantage of saturated fat is that it’s been shown to increase endogenous levels of testosterone. Red meat is an important part of the Anabolic Diet. Now, people have drawn conclusions between Dan Duchaine’s BodyOpus Diet and the Anabolic Diet. There are similarities, but the Anabolic Diet was written long before Dan’s book. I never read his Ultimate Dieting Handbook.

NM: That had a similar approach. Cut carbs until you enter ketosis and then gorge on Fruit Loops and sugar frosted Alpha-Bits. I believe it was a ten-day diet plan. It made sense, but whether or not Dan actually followed it himself is another story altogether.

MD: Don’t get me wrong, I think that Dan’s had a lot of great ideas. I know that he gets very particular in his applications. You also don’t have to participate in something to be good at it, or at least to know what you’re talking about. But I take less of an “ivory tower” approach. I’m more in the trenches. Everything that I’ve written about, I’ve had firsthand experience with. I’ve gotten down to 3% body fat. That was too light, but it allowed me to win a title in the 132-pound weight class. I’ve set records in five different weight classes.

I suggest you give it a try, quite arguing and test it out for yourself. I am a huge fan of the anabolic diet…Mainly because it increase your testosterone levels.

Plus it give you morning wood

[quote]MikeLThomas wrote:
I suggest you give it a try, quite arguing and test it out for yourself. I am a huge fan of the anabolic diet…Mainly because it increase your testosterone levels.

Plus it give you morning wood[/quote]
Did you not have morning wood before ad??? lol

[quote]James Keeton wrote:
For the record… AD is NOT designed to be a ketogenic diet. After the initial break in phase and becoming fully fat adapted, you should not be in ketosis.

Prepare to be educated by the Good Doctor DiPasquale:
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Where was this interview from?

A little update. I had my body fat done again, after 3 1/2 weeks on the AD. It was 15.1% before and now it is 12.4%. This is despite loosing one single pound on the scale. I do look bigger but probably not 5 pounds bigger, so maybe I will give the body fat a 1% margin of error. But the positive thing is I am loosing fat and seem to be gaining muscle size at the same time.

I was getting frustrated with the scale because it was not budging but I am going to stay on for another month and have it done again. Other than just being a boring way of eating I enjoy the feel of the diet.

[quote]T-bone12 wrote:
A little update. I had my body fat done again, after 3 1/2 weeks on the AD. It was 15.1% before and now it is 12.4%. This is despite loosing one single pound on the scale. I do look bigger but probably not 5 pounds bigger, so maybe I will give the body fat a 1% margin of error. But the positive thing is I am loosing fat and seem to be gaining muscle size at the same time.

I was getting frustrated with the scale because it was not budging but I am going to stay on for another month and have it done again. Other than just being a boring way of eating I enjoy the feel of the diet. [/quote]

good for you man happy to hear your getting good results

I think one of the enjoyment I get from AD is the fact that I get full from eating but I don’t get the “bloat” that usually accompanies high carb meals. I also find myself eating more veggies while on AD to fulfill my satiety as opposed to a high carb diet.

Lately my diet has transitioned into something very simple that I can keep up consistently. Because I am also IF’ing, I don’t eat that many meals.

-Workout fasted (with EAA’s pre and intra)
-Drink whey PWO followed by meal 1
-Meal 1 = steak + veggies (mainly green pepper, cabbage, spinach, chives) cooked in coconut oil
-Meal 2 = Eggs + veggies cooked in coconut oil + sprinkled with palm oil/EVOO
-Meal 3 (pre-bed) = Whey + Heavy cream + PB or Coconut Butter

Strength has been going up…weight remaining the same but getting leaner. AD rocks :wink:

What are your guys thoughts on having too few carbs during weekdays… Say 15 grams or lower per day? Could that be counter productive? Do you think its better to stay around the 25gram mark?

[quote]muscleinkorea wrote:
What are your guys thoughts on having too few carbs during weekdays… Say 15 grams or lower per day? Could that be counter productive? Do you think its better to stay around the 25gram mark?[/quote]

having the carbs WILL KEEP YOU OUT OF KETO so it does not turn into a cyclical ketogenic diet

[quote]muscleinkorea wrote:
What are your guys thoughts on having too few carbs during weekdays… Say 15 grams or lower per day? Could that be counter productive? Do you think its better to stay around the 25gram mark?[/quote]

I think that’s a highly individual thing. I get most of my 30g of carbs from my whey (6g each) and PB. Honestly, I really don’t think it even make much of a diff on days I have them or not when they are that little. I guess my point is that the amount of carbs is so low that it doesn’t make a difference at that level…at least to me.

i second that.

Alright, a couple random things.

  1. I lifted today without Surge Workout Fuel again and had a pretty decent workout, not the best but acceptible. I weighed myself today at 212 which was my weekly weigh-out weight on Saturday. On Monday after my carb-up days I weighed in at 219 which would just be glycogen stores right? Is it safe to assume that I’ve cleared out the weekend glycogen stores since I’m back to my weight? I just want to make sure i understand that right.

  2. Has anybody been doing this for a long time, like a year? If so, have you had your cholesterol and stuff checked? Just curious. A discussion was started on another site about this type of diet being no good for your colon and stuff. Ugh… I thought the BS fear about low-carb diets was gone already.

[quote]Jaynick77 wrote:
Alright, a couple random things.

  1. I lifted today without Surge Workout Fuel again and had a pretty decent workout, not the best but acceptible. I weighed myself today at 212 which was my weekly weigh-out weight on Saturday. On Monday after my carb-up days I weighed in at 219 which would just be glycogen stores right? Is it safe to assume that I’ve cleared out the weekend glycogen stores since I’m back to my weight? I just want to make sure i understand that right.

  2. Has anybody been doing this for a long time, like a year? If so, have you had your cholesterol and stuff checked? Just curious. A discussion was started on another site about this type of diet being no good for your colon and stuff. Ugh… I thought the BS fear about low-carb diets was gone already.

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1.) Makes sense. Generally it takes me 3-4 days to drop my weight back to baseline after a day of carb-loading.

2.) Maybe MODOK can chime in on this whenever he drops by. If I recall correctly, he has been doing this for a while. I can just tell you now all these fears are senseless. I really don’t understand where people come up with these things…People still can’t get over the fear of not having carbs…they have to come up with every reason possible to stay on their high carb diet.

Think about it. General population = high carb … general population = obesed in today’s society.

So high carb is safer than AD? Where is the logic.

[quote]Doh wrote:

[quote]muscleinkorea wrote:
What are your guys thoughts on having too few carbs during weekdays… Say 15 grams or lower per day? Could that be counter productive? Do you think its better to stay around the 25gram mark?[/quote]

I think that’s a highly individual thing. I get most of my 30g of carbs from my whey (6g each) and PB. Honestly, I really don’t think it even make much of a diff on days I have them or not when they are that little. I guess my point is that the amount of carbs is so low that it doesn’t make a difference at that level…at least to me.[/quote]

During the week I don’t eat any breads or carb sources - I get my 30 or so from nuts and veggies. I have noticed though that my urine is sweet smelling and really yellow - a sign of ketosis. I’m going to try this week to add some crackers or such early in the morning and see if it makes a difference.

just my 2 cents

cheers,
ben

[quote]Jaynick77 wrote:
Alright, a couple random things.

  1. I lifted today without Surge Workout Fuel again and had a pretty decent workout, not the best but acceptible. I weighed myself today at 212 which was my weekly weigh-out weight on Saturday. On Monday after my carb-up days I weighed in at 219 which would just be glycogen stores right? Is it safe to assume that I’ve cleared out the weekend glycogen stores since I’m back to my weight? I just want to make sure i understand that right.

  2. Has anybody been doing this for a long time, like a year? If so, have you had your cholesterol and stuff checked? Just curious. A discussion was started on another site about this type of diet being no good for your colon and stuff. Ugh… I thought the BS fear about low-carb diets was gone already.

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your cholesterol should be fine. the primary cause cholesterol problems and athersclerosis is the consumtion of refined sugars and has something to do with some thingamajig w/ the molecular weight making it more dense than that of fluffy fat molecules.

If you’re eating a mix of healthy fats and some fats from marbled meats and other processed meats such as bacon I’m sure you’ll be fine.Only 15% of the cholesterol in our body actually comes from diet the other 85% is manufactured by the liver. As for the colon stuff never heard of it. Maybe its bc you poop less on this diet…

A question for any of you who counts their calories…when ground beef is cooked I usually drain the grease. I’m not expert in this but I’m assuming that’s a lot of fat being drained away? Or is it not significant enough to worry about.

The reason I’m asking is because ground beef does contain a lot of fat and if a good portion of it is indeed drained away in those grease … then I’m miscalculating a good chunk of my fat and caloric intake.

[quote]Doh wrote:

[quote]James wrote:
For the record… AD is NOT designed to be a ketogenic diet. After the initial break in phase and becoming fully fat adapted, you should not be in ketosis.

Prepare to be educated by the Good Doctor DiPasquale:
[/quote]

Where was this interview from?[/quote]

From back in 99.

Part 1:

Part 2:

J.

[quote]muscleinkorea wrote:
What are your guys thoughts on having too few carbs during weekdays… Say 15 grams or lower per day? Could that be counter productive? Do you think its better to stay around the 25gram mark?[/quote]

MAF14 is right. If you drop below 25-30 carbs a day you’ll probably get into ketosis… Not optimal. It is individual, however, most will fall in that range.

[quote]RyFry wrote:

[quote]Jaynick77 wrote:
Alright, a couple random things.

  1. I lifted today without Surge Workout Fuel again and had a pretty decent workout, not the best but acceptible. I weighed myself today at 212 which was my weekly weigh-out weight on Saturday. On Monday after my carb-up days I weighed in at 219 which would just be glycogen stores right? Is it safe to assume that I’ve cleared out the weekend glycogen stores since I’m back to my weight? I just want to make sure i understand that right.

  2. Has anybody been doing this for a long time, like a year? If so, have you had your cholesterol and stuff checked? Just curious. A discussion was started on another site about this type of diet being no good for your colon and stuff. Ugh… I thought the BS fear about low-carb diets was gone already.

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your cholesterol should be fine. the primary cause cholesterol problems and athersclerosis is the consumtion of refined sugars and has something to do with some thingamajig w/ the molecular weight making it more dense than that of fluffy fat molecules.

If you’re eating a mix of healthy fats and some fats from marbled meats and other processed meats such as bacon I’m sure you’ll be fine.Only 15% of the cholesterol in our body actually comes from diet the other 85% is manufactured by the liver. As for the colon stuff never heard of it. Maybe its bc you poop less on this diet…
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Thanks for the feedback. My primary fat sources are Olive Oil, Ground Beef (80/20 or 73/27), Egg with a little vegetable oil, and cheeses. I also eat Chicken and maybe a small serving of Peanut Butter. Plus I take 2 to 3 Fish Oil capsules daily, so I’m hoping that between my ridiculous consumption of Olive Oil and the Fish Oil I’m getting enough good fats.

[quote]Doh wrote:
A question for any of you who counts their calories…when ground beef is cooked I usually drain the grease. I’m not expert in this but I’m assuming that’s a lot of fat being drained away? Or is it not significant enough to worry about.

The reason I’m asking is because ground beef does contain a lot of fat and if a good portion of it is indeed drained away in those grease … then I’m miscalculating a good chunk of my fat and caloric intake.[/quote]

Bump for a answer to this. I also pan fry 80/20, then strain it and put into containers. Any ideas guys?