A way you could test the bands is to hang them from something, then put various weights in them and measure how far the band stretches. Within certain limits, the stretched length should be a linear function of the weight being hung.
[quote]Carl Darby wrote:
A way you could test the bands is to hang them from something, then put various weights in them and measure how far the band stretches. Within certain limits, the stretched length should be a linear function of the weight being hung.[/quote]
Well, that’s just…scientific.
[quote]skidmark wrote:
Carl Darby wrote:
A way you could test the bands is to hang them from something, then put various weights in them and measure how far the band stretches. Within certain limits, the stretched length should be a linear function of the weight being hung.
Well, that’s just…scientific.[/quote]
Hmm, maybe you’ve been at a high altitude too long. 
2008-10-29
GPP/Recovery and abs
Butt circuit
BW squats followed by
BW reverse lunges (right and left)
30,10,10
30,10,10
30,10,10
pullovers
70x10,10
Ab wheel rollouts (on knees)
20,15+5 (paused)
Didn’t get to do this until after 11PM what with all the driving around and feeding people plus being husband/daddy/homework Nazi.
Hope I can get to sleep.
[quote]Elaikases wrote:
skidmark wrote:
Carl Darby wrote:
A way you could test the bands is to hang them from something, then put various weights in them and measure how far the band stretches. Within certain limits, the stretched length should be a linear function of the weight being hung.
Well, that’s just…scientific.
Hmm, maybe you’ve been at a high altitude too long.
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Nah, I was this way long before I lived at high altitude.
What do you think of pullovers as an accessory lift? I don’t see them used much in routines but the times I have done them, I really liked the feel. What are you looking to strengthen by adding them in?
[quote]Carl Darby wrote:
A way you could test the bands is to hang them from something, then put various weights in them and measure how far the band stretches. Within certain limits, the stretched length should be a linear function of the weight being hung.[/quote]
You could get some bathroom scales. Anchor the band to a heavy dumbell. Stand on the scales and pull the band up the desired height then subtract your bodyweight from the weight on the scales. It should give you the tension for that length. Might work, might not
It’s might already be dead, but that won’t stop me from playing with it. The problem with that is trying to accurately measure length while pulling on the thing.
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Ab wheel rollouts (on knees)
20,15+5 (paused)
“And in the Circus Maximus, see Skidmark do his death-defying, hernia-inducing Ab-Wheel of Fire. Younger audience members may wish to avert their gaze…”[/b]
Looks like you are still doing them. How are they working for you?
i guess this is where all the old farts hang out:)
wait a minute… I guess i fit in there now.
[quote]Ironmantrw wrote:
Carl Darby wrote:
A way you could test the bands is to hang them from something, then put various weights in them and measure how far the band stretches. Within certain limits, the stretched length should be a linear function of the weight being hung.
You could get some bathroom scales. Anchor the band to a heavy dumbell. Stand on the scales and pull the band up the desired height then subtract your bodyweight from the weight on the scales. It should give you the tension for that length. Might work, might not [/quote]
Could always do this to figger it out:
[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
i guess this is where all the old farts hang out:)
wait a minute… I guess i fit in there now. [/quote]
Quit following me around, kid!
If you’re a new old fart, does that mean you smell fresher?
[quote]Elaikases wrote:
[b]
Ab wheel rollouts (on knees)
20,15+5 (paused)
“And in the Circus Maximus, see Skidmark do his death-defying, hernia-inducing Ab-Wheel of Fire. Younger audience members may wish to avert their gaze…”[/b]
Looks like you are still doing them. How are they working for you?
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They are really painful.
My midsection still hadn’t recovered from the last session of them. So of course I did more. They are doing interesting and lively things for my triceps, teres major/minor, abdomen and hip flexors.
I had the idea to start taking my knees off the floor at full extension, but thought better of it. Maybe later, when I’m younger again.
[quote]skidmark wrote:
maraudermeat wrote:
i guess this is where all the old farts hang out:)
wait a minute… I guess i fit in there now.
Quit following me around, kid!
If you’re a new old fart, does that mean you smell fresher?[/quote]
with all the fish oil and sour cream and onion chips i eat… you decide.
[quote]mday wrote:
What do you think of pullovers as an accessory lift? I don’t see them used much in routines but the times I have done them, I really liked the feel. What are you looking to strengthen by adding them in?[/quote]
Actually - I don’t care for them. They are a risky lift: Shoulder is in an odd position, abs are fully extended and under tension - too much possibility of injury.
I was doing them because I have an imbalance between my right and left sides that I’m trying to correct. The teres of my right side seem to be mainly asleep. I figure by working them lightly I can “wake them up” and maybe improve shoulder health overall and so improve my bench.
I’m taking a lifting day off today.
Been calorically challenged this week and everything feels tight and tired at the same time.
Rather than spring something loose, I’m going to skive off. Might need a couple of high rep days as I haven’t taken a break from heavy lifting for a few months if I recall correctly.
[quote]mday wrote:
What do you think of pullovers as an accessory lift? I don’t see them used much in routines but the times I have done them, I really liked the feel. What are you looking to strengthen by adding them in?[/quote]
Barry jenkins still does them alot. Javelin throwers live by them. In the old days, they were used, among other things, to expand the rib cage. Once you hit early 20’s I don’t think this will happen much.
Depending on your angle of attack you can hit the lats,upper chest, or delts. One of the articles here suggests doing them from the floor rather than elavated to save the shoulders.
edit: here, bottom of page:
[quote]hel320 wrote:
mday wrote:
What do you think of pullovers as an accessory lift? I don’t see them used much in routines but the times I have done them, I really liked the feel. What are you looking to strengthen by adding them in?
Barry jenkins still does them alot. Javelin throwers live by them. In the old days, they were used, among other things, to expand the rib cage. Once you hit early 20’s I don’t think this will happen much.
Depending on your angle of attack you can hit the lats,upper chest, or delts. One of the articles here suggests doing them from the floor rather than elavated to save the shoulders.
edit: here, bottom of page:
Yeah - Barry’s an absolute monster on pullovers. I wish I could as easily bench what he pulls over…
I’m not knocking the exercise in general - it’s has all the benefits you mention above, but people have to be careful not to go too heavy too fast on it. You can pull more weight than muscles other than the prime movers can support.
And…I’m just crappy at them.
I used pullover machines when they were available to avoid injury. But the exercise always felt good. I’d forgotten about them, lacking a machine or space in my routine right now, but darn, they felt good.
2008-10-30
Grip Work
Had a long-ass teleconference today. 2 hours! for which 1 hour and 55 minutes of it I had my phone on mute. So I took the phone out to the garage with me and did the following:
Rotating D handle lifts (no thumbs)
100x 1min
150x1
(thumbs)
200x1
220x0
175x1
Looks like I’ve lost some on my grip. I’ve pulled 220 in the past, but today just couldn’t keep my hand closed. May work that back into the ‘off’ days.