Appreciate your input. As you know, there is a huge difference between juicing from the competition perspective and TRT, especially if Dr prescribed. If the TRT works for you, more power to you. From what I can glean from it is that it is the same as the Test-cypionate and Test-enanthate that was used back in the day at lower dosages and Dr monitored. Not really into the TRT scene, but never put it in the “juicing” category. Biggest reason why I don’t do TRT, is once on - never off… At least according to my Doctor of 30+ years. Hell, that may change as I hit 70!
As for NO clue, I can care less what you take. If it works for you, Godspeed. Just don’t tell me I am stupid for not. I worked out with many people that were using a variety of stuff from only protein powder to guys going to a mailbox and getting a syringe in an envelope. Really don’t care, more interested in the training and diet/nutrition. To each their own. Even the competitive BB guys I worked out with the diet and training was the same principles. I am more than willing to discuss, research and ask questions. I won’t get offended, if you don’t. I am sure there are aspects of training and nutrition that can help at any stage of lifting. Just looking for a site that does not focus on better bodies through chemistry. I am more interested in the training and nutrition.
Right now, just doing Best Damn Workout, transitioned to that from 531. Neck arthritis limiting the 531 overhead and benching, according to Ortho TRT not helping my arthritis. 60 and still at it 6 days a week, BF at 16% and more interested in learning to surf than move heavy weights any more.
| asmonius
February 27 |
Heya,
Came up on this new forum feed, so I thought I’d ring in.
rmf5630:
I realize the hard-core competitors and chemists really have no interests in these areas, but they aren’t talking to this group anyway. My goal is how to preserve functional muscle and prevent getting soft without having to juice!
I am 62 as of the 19th, former high level competitor in powerlifting (SHW, 350+ lbs), bodybuilding (325 lbs off season), and martial artist, so I think I fit the hard-core, and certainly the chemist part, as I’ve done more gear over the last 44 years than one could imagine.
Transitioned to TRT+ after retiring at 50, still 250 lbs @ well under 10% BF. (There’s some photos somewhere on here) I think I’m about the best built grandpa on here and about anywhere else, and plan on being as active a great grandpa hopefully if all goes right.
I think anyone over the age of 50 is not doing themselves any good by NOT being on TRT, just the benefits for your joints is beyond anything you can do OTC. To those who have NO clue, and somehow look at it as something evil, cheating, or some other delusion, my wife is on HRT, and it has literally changed her/our lives.
Do your homework, live longer, healthier and better, what’s wrong with that? Longevity is nothing without quality of life also, no?
There are a great number nutritional articles on TN, along with workout routines, nowadays I follow our TC’s supplement plan along with Dante Trudell’s (think DC training).
Starting out or intermediate training is hardest, as you don’t KNOW what works for YOU, nutritionally or training-wise. You need to figure these things out, I would say give a number of training/Nutrional methods a 3 month run, than move onto something else, keep logs, take photos and measurements.
I will say, for insulin resistance reasons (important as we age), try to find a way to mix in cardio (be it steady state, HIIT, etc). Find what works best for YOU, we’re all VERY different, what works for me may not work for you.
I would certainly hang out in an over 50 forum, talking to modern day keyboard warriors who haven’t done jack squat is tiring beyond belief, I’d rather talk to those who would take my experience and use it, along with sharing our thoughts from a more mature perspective. 
Take care.
