[quote]xfactor3236 wrote:
yeah its kinda in bad taste, but she was selfish, she knew this would happen, people tried to help her, and now her loved ones are left hurting because she couldn’t get her shit together [/quote]
Addiction is more than a matter of getting your shit together, with all respect to your opinion on the matter. Some people can overcome it, and some can’t. Some people are more disposed to addiction as well. I don’t think it’s a phenomenon you can simplify. Saying she needed to get her shit together is like suggesting addiction is the equivalent of not paying your credit card bills on time or something
For my part I enjoyed some of her music. It’s too bad she died. [/quote]
idk man, i believe it was a conscious choice to have taken these drugs, if nothing else it was a choice when she started, and it was undoubtedly her choice to not go to rehab or to get help. Her loved ones are the ones suffering now, its a shame thats this happened but i feel far worse for her family than i do for her
[quote]Think tank fish wrote:
Addiction is not a disease. There I said it.
I have the same sympathy for her as I do people who make themselves fat and die of heart disease or diabetes.[/quote]
i agree. the choice is made with free will to start down that road. we as humans have free will.
the mechanism of addiction is natural, also. meaning there are stages to the process that, if you know yourself, you can reverse or ask for help to get to the real root of your issues.
you can develop addiction to almost anything if you don’t learn your triggers and find the courage to face your fears. it’s simple and complex at the same time.
[quote]Think tank fish wrote:
Addiction is not a disease. There I said it.
I have the same sympathy for her as I do people who make themselves fat and die of heart disease or diabetes.[/quote]
i agree. the choice is made with free will to start down that road. we as humans have free will.
the mechanism of addiction is natural, also. meaning there are stages to the process that, if you know yourself, you can reverse or ask for help to get to the real root of your issues.
you can develop addiction to almost anything if you don’t learn your triggers and find the courage to face your fears. it’s simple and complex at the same time. [/quote]
Exactly. She especially had a lot of opportunities and support to fix the problem.
[quote]Think tank fish wrote:
Addiction is not a disease. There I said it.
I have the same sympathy for her as I do people who make themselves fat and die of heart disease or diabetes.[/quote]
Which I would hope would be a good amount of sympathy. Is it their fault? Yes, it is. Was it Winehouse’s fault? Yes, it was. But to die young is a punishment that fits few crimes.
[quote]Think tank fish wrote:
Addiction is not a disease. There I said it.
I have the same sympathy for her as I do people who make themselves fat and die of heart disease or diabetes.[/quote]
Which I would hope would be a good amount of sympathy. Is it their fault? Yes, it is. Was it Winehouse’s fault? Yes, it was. But to die young is a punishment that fits few crimes.[/quote]
Oh I agree, anyone dying young is horrible. I have sympathy for her family and friends. But she inflicted them with needless pain by abusing her health.
[quote]imhungry wrote:
Addiction sucks, PERIOD. Anyone that has dealt with this in their lives in any way, can tell you that it’s draining to anybody that cares for them.
Like Kurt Cobain and Layne Staley before her, it wasn’t a matter of IF AW would OD… It was WHEN will she OD.
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Courtney Love paid to have Kurt Cobain murdered. Go read “Who killed Kurt Cobain” by Ian Halperin if you doubt this to be fact.
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Love controlled every aspect of her life. Including her husband. If she didn’t have him killed, he took himself out to escape her clutches. She’s a self-serving bitch.
However, she made 2 kick-ass rock albums.
Amy Winehouse? Any death is sad, but her’s was not unexpected. I do hope she’s at peace now.
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2 kick ass rock albums penned by someone else. I’ll believe 'til the day I die she had him killed.