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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Quiet Warrior wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I wonder what would happen if women with careers started paying for dick like this.
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Guess the problem is that most women who look half way decent never have to pay for sex.

[/quote]

That is one big fucking problem.[/quote]

Why a problem? I think it’s worse for women. Now only talking about SEX, not love or relationships but “scoring” for lack of a better word. A average looking man will continue to pick up women long after his prime while women will hit a age point and become considered bottom shelf. It’s a crazy game. And one I’m glad I stop playing years ago. [/quote]

Look, I already know we win out overall. A decent looking guy who stays in shape can pull college aged girls and above way into his 40’s especially if he has a decent lifestyle and income.

I already know women get the short end of the stick on that one…or at least they did. I do see a TON more women hitting 40+ lately who still look very nice and carry themselves well.

However, you know where we really fucked up?

We don’t usually get to stay at home, hit the gym all day, eat and sleep while the woman works.

I want that for at least a full year. [/quote]

The lifestyle is not and will never be like that for guys. Don’t get me wrong it has been done but it’s not the rule.

Because Sugardaddies and Sugarmommas want different things.

A Sugardaddy wants a Hot chick to be on call for sex and showing off as arm candy.

A Sugarmomma wants you to be all that plus a friend, date, someone to talk to, it’s a fucking job plus most want you to have a job so they can brag to friends.

Being a Ho for cash the women have the advantage.

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[quote]four60 wrote:

The lifestyle is not and will never be like that for guys. Don’t get me wrong it has been done but it’s not the rule.

Because Sugardaddies and Sugarmommas want different things.
[/quote]

What is screwed up is the guys I knew who got away with living for free off a girl were the types of guys most women say they don’t want…

Bad boys have all the fun.

I should have dropped out of school and started selling crack while I had the chance.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

The lifestyle is not and will never be like that for guys. Don’t get me wrong it has been done but it’s not the rule.

Because Sugardaddies and Sugarmommas want different things.
[/quote]

What is screwed up is the guys I knew who got away with living for free off a girl were the types of guys most women say they don’t want…

Bad boys have all the fun.

I should have dropped out of school and started selling crack while I had the chance.[/quote]

You really do not know him like she does…

He is really not like that, he is gonna change, he is going to get a job, youÃ?´ll see…

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The problem is men. The problem is always men. Women only live by their instinct, so there is no problem. Men don’t understand the value of their sperm. The dumbest thing to do if you are a men is to masturbate and give out your sperm to thin air. After this the next dumbest thing is to give it to a women. Some animals die after they have sex. Blowjob =you lose.

It is very very hard to keep your sperm but that is what being a man is about. When you keep it for a while, all the women will come to you. Some passionate womens will get off only by being close to you and the magnetism of your sperm. But you know they just want your energy. Women don’t really care about men, they want to fill their vacuity with your explosive energy in order to produce more of their own vacuous energy. They have the secret of life, but you have the power. They are not your friend or your enemy.

The goal of a women is to get a man’s energy. They don’t understand it and they don’t try to understand it. Women don’t intellectualize life. Their function is to get the sperm. That is why they try to be pretty, that is why they like to dance, etc. They are equipped for that. It is their function.

Only if you make love without ejaculation you get to keep your energy and balance it with the women’s energy. You need to balance your energy to feel good. You can satisfy her without ejaculating and make her stay with you.

Nothing is free in life and everything balance itself. The pleasure you don’t get when you abstain naturally come back to you in your daily life.

Do not be angry if you don’t get womens. Just don’t ever masturbate.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

The lifestyle is not and will never be like that for guys. Don’t get me wrong it has been done but it’s not the rule.

Because Sugardaddies and Sugarmommas want different things.
[/quote]

What is screwed up is the guys I knew who got away with living for free off a girl were the types of guys most women say they don’t want…

Bad boys have all the fun.

I should have dropped out of school and started selling crack while I had the chance.[/quote]

People who have the sperm have all the fun, bad or good.

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[quote]jasmincar wrote:
The problem is men. The problem is always men. Women only live by their instinct, so there is no problem. Men don’t understand the value of their sperm. The dumbest thing to do if you are a men is to masturbate and give out your sperm to thin air. After this the next dumbest thing is to give it to a women. Some animals die after they have sex. Blowjob =you lose.

It is very very hard to keep your sperm but that is what being a man is about. When you keep it for a while, all the women will come to you. Some passionate womens will get off only by being close to you and the magnetism of your sperm. But you know they just want your energy. Women don’t really care about men, they want to fill their vacuity with your explosive energy in order to produce more of their own vacuous energy. They have the secret of life, but you have the power. They are not your friend or your enemy.

The goal of a women is to get a man’s energy. They don’t understand it and they don’t try to understand it. Women don’t intellectualize life. Their function is to get the sperm. That is why they try to be pretty, that is why they like to dance, etc. They are equipped for that. It is their function.

Only if you make love without ejaculation you get to keep your energy and balance it with the women’s energy. You need to balance your energy to feel good. You can satisfy her without ejaculating and make her stay with you.

Nothing is free in life and everything balance itself. The pleasure you don’t get when you abstain naturally come back to you in your daily life.

Do not be angry if you don’t get womens. Just don’t ever masturbate.[/quote]

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[quote]jasmincar wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

The lifestyle is not and will never be like that for guys. Don’t get me wrong it has been done but it’s not the rule.

Because Sugardaddies and Sugarmommas want different things.
[/quote]

What is screwed up is the guys I knew who got away with living for free off a girl were the types of guys most women say they don’t want…

Bad boys have all the fun.

I should have dropped out of school and started selling crack while I had the chance.[/quote]

People who have the sperm have all the fun, bad or good.
[/quote]

From 16-20 I had so much excess bodiliy fluids they leaked put of my nostrils and I had hardly any fun at all!

108

[quote]theBeth wrote:
I’m learning alot here. Tonight I’ve got a date after work. I’m devising a plan to skip the preliminary of taking her out and buying her drinks.

Even with a male partner I’d buy the drinks. Sometimes the whole dinner. A) Buying the alcohol meant I could get him wasted and take advantage. B) Buying the dinner and drinks let him know I was in control and he was going to be my bitch for the night. [/quote]

Quite possibly the greatest post I have read. Sexy

Whichever poster above said he pays for dinner just becuae its nice to do it and not expecting sex/opening doors and that jazz is something I have always done and continue to do. I don’t do it for the return. That’s icing on the cake (possible sexual pun there)

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[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:
I’m learning alot here. Tonight I’ve got a date after work. I’m devising a plan to skip the preliminary of taking her out and buying her drinks.

Even with a male partner I’d buy the drinks. Sometimes the whole dinner. A) Buying the alcohol meant I could get him wasted and take advantage. B) Buying the dinner and drinks let him know I was in control and he was going to be my bitch for the night. [/quote]

Quite possibly the greatest post I have read. Sexy

Whichever poster above said he pays for dinner just becuae its nice to do it and not expecting sex/opening doors and that jazz is something I have always done and continue to do. I don’t do it for the return. That’s icing on the cake (possible sexual pun there) [/quote]

Well, as long as she does stuff for you too, no, sex does not count, like buying a gun maybe?

Otherwise you are just a meal ticket, i.e., you are being used.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:
I’m learning alot here. Tonight I’ve got a date after work. I’m devising a plan to skip the preliminary of taking her out and buying her drinks.

Even with a male partner I’d buy the drinks. Sometimes the whole dinner. A) Buying the alcohol meant I could get him wasted and take advantage. B) Buying the dinner and drinks let him know I was in control and he was going to be my bitch for the night. [/quote]

Quite possibly the greatest post I have read. Sexy

Whichever poster above said he pays for dinner just becuae its nice to do it and not expecting sex/opening doors and that jazz is something I have always done and continue to do. I don’t do it for the return. That’s icing on the cake (possible sexual pun there) [/quote]

Well, as long as she does stuff for you too, no, sex does not count, like buying a gun maybe?

Otherwise you are just a meal ticket, i.e., you are being used.[/quote]

Meh I’m happy with my gun collection. And I don’t seem to have to same outlook on relationships as you so discussing the merits of them seems like it will be circles. I have always initiated relationships for more than material exchange ie money and gifts

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[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:
I’m learning alot here. Tonight I’ve got a date after work. I’m devising a plan to skip the preliminary of taking her out and buying her drinks.

Even with a male partner I’d buy the drinks. Sometimes the whole dinner. A) Buying the alcohol meant I could get him wasted and take advantage. B) Buying the dinner and drinks let him know I was in control and he was going to be my bitch for the night. [/quote]

Quite possibly the greatest post I have read. Sexy

Whichever poster above said he pays for dinner just becuae its nice to do it and not expecting sex/opening doors and that jazz is something I have always done and continue to do. I don’t do it for the return. That’s icing on the cake (possible sexual pun there) [/quote]

Well, as long as she does stuff for you too, no, sex does not count, like buying a gun maybe?

Otherwise you are just a meal ticket, i.e., you are being used.[/quote]

Meh I’m happy with my gun collection. And I don’t seem to have to same outlook on relationships as you so discussing the merits of them seems like it will be circles. I have always initiated relationships for more than material exchange ie money and gifts [/quote]

You cannot ignore basic human nature.

You seem to be sugarcoating paying for sex.

You may have noticed that I dont do that.

Be that as it may, if you pay and all she does is put out, I mean, put lipstick on that pig all you want.

Second, if we do stuff for other people we tend to like them more, so, if she does stuff for you, she will like you more, if you constantly do stuff for her you will be seen as a needy bastard.

Finally, you will come to my outlook, either before or after you have been fucked over.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:
I’m learning alot here. Tonight I’ve got a date after work. I’m devising a plan to skip the preliminary of taking her out and buying her drinks.

Even with a male partner I’d buy the drinks. Sometimes the whole dinner. A) Buying the alcohol meant I could get him wasted and take advantage. B) Buying the dinner and drinks let him know I was in control and he was going to be my bitch for the night. [/quote]

Quite possibly the greatest post I have read. Sexy

Whichever poster above said he pays for dinner just becuae its nice to do it and not expecting sex/opening doors and that jazz is something I have always done and continue to do. I don’t do it for the return. That’s icing on the cake (possible sexual pun there) [/quote]

Well, as long as she does stuff for you too, no, sex does not count, like buying a gun maybe?

Otherwise you are just a meal ticket, i.e., you are being used.[/quote]

Meh I’m happy with my gun collection. And I don’t seem to have to same outlook on relationships as you so discussing the merits of them seems like it will be circles. I have always initiated relationships for more than material exchange ie money and gifts [/quote]

You cannot ignore basic human nature.

You seem to be sugarcoating paying for sex.

You may have noticed that I dont do that.

Be that as it may, if you pay and all she does is put out, I mean, put lipstick on that pig all you want.

Second, if we do stuff for other people we tend to like them more, so, if she does stuff for you, she will like you more, if you constantly do stuff for her you will be seen as a needy bastard.

Finally, you will come to my outlook, either before or after you have been fucked over.

[/quote]

You are so cheery I love it.

I’m not sugar costing paying for sex. All I said was my main intention when paying for dinner is not sex.

I do stuff for people I like and my doing something for them does not make me like them more. I am picky about who I spend my time with and only spend time with those that like me. Quality over quantity. Seems to help stay away from these relationship issues :slight_smile:

I also enjoy your thought everyone will be fucked over. Your life experiences have very much tainted your thoughts.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]jasmincar wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

The lifestyle is not and will never be like that for guys. Don’t get me wrong it has been done but it’s not the rule.

Because Sugardaddies and Sugarmommas want different things.
[/quote]

What is screwed up is the guys I knew who got away with living for free off a girl were the types of guys most women say they don’t want…

Bad boys have all the fun.

I should have dropped out of school and started selling crack while I had the chance.[/quote]

People who have the sperm have all the fun, bad or good.
[/quote]

From 16-20 I had so much excess bodiliy fluids they leaked put of my nostrils and I had hardly any fun at all![/quote]

You hardly had any fun at all because it leaked out of your nostrils.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]jasmincar wrote:
The problem is men. The problem is always men. Women only live by their instinct, so there is no problem. Men don’t understand the value of their sperm. The dumbest thing to do if you are a men is to masturbate and give out your sperm to thin air. After this the next dumbest thing is to give it to a women. Some animals die after they have sex. Blowjob =you lose.

It is very very hard to keep your sperm but that is what being a man is about. When you keep it for a while, all the women will come to you. Some passionate womens will get off only by being close to you and the magnetism of your sperm. But you know they just want your energy. Women don’t really care about men, they want to fill their vacuity with your explosive energy in order to produce more of their own vacuous energy. They have the secret of life, but you have the power. They are not your friend or your enemy.

The goal of a women is to get a man’s energy. They don’t understand it and they don’t try to understand it. Women don’t intellectualize life. Their function is to get the sperm. That is why they try to be pretty, that is why they like to dance, etc. They are equipped for that. It is their function.

Only if you make love without ejaculation you get to keep your energy and balance it with the women’s energy. You need to balance your energy to feel good. You can satisfy her without ejaculating and make her stay with you.

Nothing is free in life and everything balance itself. The pleasure you don’t get when you abstain naturally come back to you in your daily life.

Do not be angry if you don’t get womens. Just don’t ever masturbate.[/quote]

[/quote]

I didn’t watch that video clip because I am sure it’s irrelevant. If you only tried this abstinence thing seriously you would understand and some bitterness would go away.

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[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:
I’m learning alot here. Tonight I’ve got a date after work. I’m devising a plan to skip the preliminary of taking her out and buying her drinks.

Even with a male partner I’d buy the drinks. Sometimes the whole dinner. A) Buying the alcohol meant I could get him wasted and take advantage. B) Buying the dinner and drinks let him know I was in control and he was going to be my bitch for the night. [/quote]

Quite possibly the greatest post I have read. Sexy

Whichever poster above said he pays for dinner just becuae its nice to do it and not expecting sex/opening doors and that jazz is something I have always done and continue to do. I don’t do it for the return. That’s icing on the cake (possible sexual pun there) [/quote]

Well, as long as she does stuff for you too, no, sex does not count, like buying a gun maybe?

Otherwise you are just a meal ticket, i.e., you are being used.[/quote]

Meh I’m happy with my gun collection. And I don’t seem to have to same outlook on relationships as you so discussing the merits of them seems like it will be circles. I have always initiated relationships for more than material exchange ie money and gifts [/quote]

You cannot ignore basic human nature.

You seem to be sugarcoating paying for sex.

You may have noticed that I dont do that.

Be that as it may, if you pay and all she does is put out, I mean, put lipstick on that pig all you want.

Second, if we do stuff for other people we tend to like them more, so, if she does stuff for you, she will like you more, if you constantly do stuff for her you will be seen as a needy bastard.

Finally, you will come to my outlook, either before or after you have been fucked over.

[/quote]

You are so cheery I love it.

I’m not sugar costing paying for sex. All I said was my main intention when paying for dinner is not sex.

I do stuff for people I like and my doing something for them does not make me like them more. I am picky about who I spend my time with and only spend time with those that like me. Quality over quantity. Seems to help stay away from these relationship issues :slight_smile:

I also enjoy your thought everyone will be fucked over. Your life experiences have very much tainted your thoughts. [/quote]

First, you doing anything for anyone WILL make you like them more.

That is basic human nature, you will rationalize why you did it.

Second, if you want to invite someone, do so, but if all she has to offer in return is da poonany, she is a ho.

The problem is that of AC posts that he just enjoys her company I am reading something different than when you do it.

He is going for a quality experience, you might be scavenging for crumps of attention.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:
I’m learning alot here. Tonight I’ve got a date after work. I’m devising a plan to skip the preliminary of taking her out and buying her drinks.

Even with a male partner I’d buy the drinks. Sometimes the whole dinner. A) Buying the alcohol meant I could get him wasted and take advantage. B) Buying the dinner and drinks let him know I was in control and he was going to be my bitch for the night. [/quote]

Quite possibly the greatest post I have read. Sexy

Whichever poster above said he pays for dinner just becuae its nice to do it and not expecting sex/opening doors and that jazz is something I have always done and continue to do. I don’t do it for the return. That’s icing on the cake (possible sexual pun there) [/quote]

Well, as long as she does stuff for you too, no, sex does not count, like buying a gun maybe?

Otherwise you are just a meal ticket, i.e., you are being used.[/quote]

Meh I’m happy with my gun collection. And I don’t seem to have to same outlook on relationships as you so discussing the merits of them seems like it will be circles. I have always initiated relationships for more than material exchange ie money and gifts [/quote]

You cannot ignore basic human nature.

You seem to be sugarcoating paying for sex.

You may have noticed that I dont do that.

Be that as it may, if you pay and all she does is put out, I mean, put lipstick on that pig all you want.

Second, if we do stuff for other people we tend to like them more, so, if she does stuff for you, she will like you more, if you constantly do stuff for her you will be seen as a needy bastard.

Finally, you will come to my outlook, either before or after you have been fucked over.

[/quote]

You are so cheery I love it.

I’m not sugar costing paying for sex. All I said was my main intention when paying for dinner is not sex.

I do stuff for people I like and my doing something for them does not make me like them more. I am picky about who I spend my time with and only spend time with those that like me. Quality over quantity. Seems to help stay away from these relationship issues :slight_smile:

I also enjoy your thought everyone will be fucked over. Your life experiences have very much tainted your thoughts. [/quote]

First, you doing anything for anyone WILL make you like them more.

That is basic human nature, you will rationalize why you did it.

Second, if you want to invite someone, do so, but if all she has to offer in return is da poonany, she is a ho.

The problem is that of AC posts that he just enjoys her company I am reading something different than when you do it.

He is going for a quality experience, you might be scavenging for crumps of attention.

[/quote]

Lol at basic human nature

I don’t hangout with anyone who can only offer sex ever no idea where you are getting that idea side I have said multiple,times that’s what I avoid.

And 3rd I just said I go quality over quality why am I scavenging? I’m slowly but surely getting confused

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[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:
I’m learning alot here. Tonight I’ve got a date after work. I’m devising a plan to skip the preliminary of taking her out and buying her drinks.

Even with a male partner I’d buy the drinks. Sometimes the whole dinner. A) Buying the alcohol meant I could get him wasted and take advantage. B) Buying the dinner and drinks let him know I was in control and he was going to be my bitch for the night. [/quote]

Quite possibly the greatest post I have read. Sexy

Whichever poster above said he pays for dinner just becuae its nice to do it and not expecting sex/opening doors and that jazz is something I have always done and continue to do. I don’t do it for the return. That’s icing on the cake (possible sexual pun there) [/quote]

Well, as long as she does stuff for you too, no, sex does not count, like buying a gun maybe?

Otherwise you are just a meal ticket, i.e., you are being used.[/quote]

Meh I’m happy with my gun collection. And I don’t seem to have to same outlook on relationships as you so discussing the merits of them seems like it will be circles. I have always initiated relationships for more than material exchange ie money and gifts [/quote]

You cannot ignore basic human nature.

You seem to be sugarcoating paying for sex.

You may have noticed that I dont do that.

Be that as it may, if you pay and all she does is put out, I mean, put lipstick on that pig all you want.

Second, if we do stuff for other people we tend to like them more, so, if she does stuff for you, she will like you more, if you constantly do stuff for her you will be seen as a needy bastard.

Finally, you will come to my outlook, either before or after you have been fucked over.

[/quote]

You are so cheery I love it.

I’m not sugar costing paying for sex. All I said was my main intention when paying for dinner is not sex.

I do stuff for people I like and my doing something for them does not make me like them more. I am picky about who I spend my time with and only spend time with those that like me. Quality over quantity. Seems to help stay away from these relationship issues :slight_smile:

I also enjoy your thought everyone will be fucked over. Your life experiences have very much tainted your thoughts. [/quote]

First, you doing anything for anyone WILL make you like them more.

That is basic human nature, you will rationalize why you did it.

Second, if you want to invite someone, do so, but if all she has to offer in return is da poonany, she is a ho.

The problem is that of AC posts that he just enjoys her company I am reading something different than when you do it.

He is going for a quality experience, you might be scavenging for crumps of attention.

[/quote]

Lol at basic human nature

I don’t hangout with anyone who can only offer sex ever no idea where you are getting that idea side I have said multiple,times that’s what I avoid.

And 3rd I just said I go quality over quality why am I scavenging? I’m slowly but surely getting confused [/quote]

I do think that you have some inbuilt weaknesses that you simply cannot will your way out of.

Due to your age and relative inexperience, I do not even expect you to have accepted and dealt with too many of them.

In fact, I doubt that you can discern “quality” from “non-quality” when it comes to women.

So what you would or would not do, lets see, shall we?

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Uh quotes are getting stupid long.

I gotta say I am curious of these inbuilt weaknesses you speak of. Will please elaborate I am interested to hear.

Sure I am young but I have had a couple serious relationships. One 5+ where we lived together ect ect but I am also not naive in thinking I have much of anything figured out. All I know is what has worked so far. And building off that.

Quality is subjective. So what I deem quality may or may not matter to someone else.

And yes we will see lol

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[quote]orion wrote:
In fact, I doubt that you can discern “quality” from “non-quality” when it comes to women.

So what you would or would not do, lets see, shall we?

[/quote]

I’d be curious to hear how different guys describe quality.

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[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
In fact, I doubt that you can discern “quality” from “non-quality” when it comes to women.

So what you would or would not do, lets see, shall we?

[/quote]

I’d be curious to hear how different guys describe quality.
[/quote]

Me too.