So… an egg roll
This is surprisingly close to Skiploading, except Skip Hill has his guys doing 2.5-3 hours and low fat, high carb.
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His is a more refined and focused method, and probably yields better results.
Mine was just based on the time it takes for food to register as having been eaten and going to pizza buffets with a bunch of big hungry tree cutters. 
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I think it’s actually two different needs.
Skiploading is a refeed opportunity. If I remember right, and I might not, the timing window is to keep you from overdoing It.
@SkyzykS is talking about outrunning your satiety signals so you can cram in more calories.
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Yep. And 2 scoop shakes made with milk & whipping cream throughout the day. 
Side note: why does this give off mob boss vibes
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You have no idea how close to the truth this was in that particular situation. lol
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I am wildly curious now lol
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@QuadQueen, my email is in my profile, would you please send a price for nutrition coaching? 
…if I told you - I’d have to kill you. lol
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I don’t see your email but you can shoot me one at amyk.rd at gmail dot com. I’m looking forward to connecting!
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Thank you and email received! I’ll hit ya back this weekend!
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@QuadQueen how do you know if an individuals gut biome is functioning properly/improperly?
Do you have any diagnostic or triage system for disfunctional gut biomes?
Like if you’ve got a messed up biome, do you address with prebiotics or probiotics, and which ones do you start with?
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Great question!
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@Andrewgen_Receptors I’m going to chime on this later, but am interested to hear QuadQueens response first.
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In most cases there are signs. It might be obvious - digestion, bloating, constipation, diarrhea, stomach pain or more vague - getting sick often, taking/have taken antibiotics now or frequently in the past, general feeling cruddy all the time with no other outside factors in play (diet, sleep, stress, etc.).
I think it’s a fairly safe bet that very few people have an optimally functioning gut microbiome. I was recently at a conference and one of the sessions was a debate about whether the biome is most influenced by nature and or nurture, and wow, EVERYTHING effects what’s going on down there. Birth mode (cesarean vs vaginal), fiber intake (low fiber diets are particularly terrible), foods eaten (processed vs whole foods), history of antibiotic use (it takes over six months, even with optimal diet/lifestyle for the microbiome to return to baseline after a course of antibiotics), stress, sleep - literally EVERYTHING. The overall recs at the end of session were - high fiber diet (especially veggies, minimally processed whole grains), lean proteins, healthy fats; solid sleep; stress management; healthy amount of exercise (not too much/not too little). So yeah, just common sense stuff for the most part.
My recs for anyone taking antibiotics - get on a probiotic STAT. I also recommend a probiotic for anyone having issues with digestion or who suspects they may have some gut issues. I always start with a probiotic because if you’re gut isn’t healthy, it’s not going to be able to convert prebiotics to probiotics with any great efficiency. I don’t however, advise constantly taking a probiotic long-term. Once your gut/digestion feel good/normal again - doing a 30 day on/30 day off cycle gives your gut some good bugs on a regular schedule and then in the 30 days off allows your gut to populate with its natural flora. I also recommend switching up brands of probiotics and bacterial strains to help prevent an overgrowth of any one type which could lead to SIBO (small intestinal bacterial overgrowth).
The TL;DR version of this: If your digestion is wonky or you’re on or have been on an antibiotic recently, taking a probiotic is a good idea. Rotate brands and bacterial strains every 30 days. If taking long term follow a 30 days on/30 days off approach with brand/strain rotation. When I work with someone one on one I tailor things a bit more we may do some pre and synbiotics based on the case.
I hope at least two sentences in all of that made sense! lol
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It was at least 2 sentences that made sense.
Thanks QQ
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I’m glad you mentioned this, because I know antibiotics have significantly affected my gut flora.
So - quick backstory - I never paid much attention to gut health, but have been on contiguous courses of antibiotics to fight a MRSA infection. Besides rounds of multiple oral antibiotics, I had two six week-long courses of vancomycin pick lines, which look like this.
All of the sudden people start saying that my speech sounds slurred, I’m forgetting stuff, they can smell booze on my breath, etc. Now I drank like a fish when I was in my 20’s - I’d buy a fifth after work and it would be empty when I pulled into the driveway, but I got married and had kids and decided sleep is a good thing so I quit the partying.
This was different. I felt absolutely fine - other people were irritating me “by checking in.” I blew it off since I use alcohol in cooking and stuff, so of course I smell like it. I smell like raw vegetables and fry oil also. Finally after one family incident (to shut everyone up) ,I had to pull out the breathalyzer that I used to use for line cooks who were acting squirrely, and I surprisingly blew a .4 . Not a .04.
At 8 am before breakfast.
So this long course of multiple antibiotics effectively wiped out my healthy flora and allowed other things like yeast to take over my biological real estate. My wife was the one who brought it up, because she thought I was a secret high-functioning alcoholic, but I showed her my bank records, location data, grocery receipts, and she saw there was no way I could have been buying booze.
All that to say, your gut flora should be taken seriously. I credit a couple decades of lifting, healthy eating, and Trt to provide a buffer to let me avoid most of the extreme effects. Right now I’m on an elimination diet of meat, fermented dairy like kifir, hard cheese, and yogurt (I ate non-fermented cottage cheese for breakfast one day that amounted to about 24g sugars and blew a .013), fermented vegetables like kimchee and sauerkraut, and toasted nuts and seeds.
It sucks ass, and not in a fun way. I can’t get drunk - if you’re zipping around slamming a bottle of vodka when you’re humming at a .4 already, it’s not going to do shit. Now I blow two hours after I eat to check, but this has forced me to really research and focus on how important gut biomes are.
I’ll add more later, but just know I’m a cheap date at the moment.
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This is SUPER interesting, but yeah, totally sucky for you. If it makes you feel any better, I’ve always been a cheap date. lol
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