Am I Wrong?

Wow the OP using the word “Hate” is really strong. I wonder OP, what if you spoke with someone over the phone and really got along with the person and found out that they do some really good things in their community and for humanity in general, but then found out that they were obese, you would then hate them, well you are a true douchebag. Lets say someone you love became fat, you would then hate them according to your logic.

Hey I love weight training and staying in as good of shape as I could, but Im not going to force my ideals on someone else. What the fuck is wrong with inner beauty and simply being a good person. Your logic is superficial and mean spirited. It seems like you get off on hurting people.

Quite frankly you are wrong and a piece of shit.

[quote]Airtruth wrote:
jtrinsey wrote:
Lift or die wrote:
I thought it made sense why should someone keep eating when their fat obese and slowing killing themselves and why should someone keep doing drugs when it is killing them?

Have you ever exceeded the speed limit while driving? Ever not put your seat belt on or rode in the bed of a pickup? Texted while you drove? Smoked a cigarette? Got hammered drunk? Jaywalked? Gone swimming in the ocean at night? Played a contact sport? Gone hunting? Climbed a tree?

Ever pet a stray dog? Been in an unsafe neighborhood at night? Been off the strip in Atlantic City at any time of day? Been to South America? Ever dove into a pool less than 5 feet deep?

Ever eat charred meat? Talk on your cell phone? Put your laptop on your lap? Eat artificial sweeteners? Ever have unprotected sex? Do you consistently get less than 6 hours of sleep?

Any of these things can be linked to a greater chance or death or a higher mortality rate. The way we live our lives is just choosing the way we’re most likely to die. If fat people wanna drop dead of a heart attack at 55… fuck it, let them. Who are you to tell them not to be fat?

Nobody said they can’t be fat, what he said was fat models don’t fight aneroxia. Which is a good point in this push to be fat society. America seems to want to fight a small paper fire by throwing an entire ocean of water on it…
Combat homophobia by teaching homosexuality in school?
Combat anarexia by saying hey it’s cool to be fat?
basically the equivelant of
wow we had 10 people die this year from atkins diet, let’s
Teach people to bake and eat cookies and cake all day and tell them this is healthy.
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Thats not all he was saying, that maybe was the only intelligent item he wrote but it certainly wasnt the only thing.

[quote]Airtruth wrote:
xb-C wrote:
chocolate milk

If you think that’s what we’re talking about when we say obese then let me know where you live. [/quote]

Sorry dood I don’t want to MMM with you.

Keep on fighting the good Fight TC. I’m rooting for you.

Your in High school, fuck being Politically correct.

OP You need to read Robert Greene, 48 Laws of Power … here’s one of the laws that applies to your little situation:

Law 38

Think as you like but Behave like others

If you make a show of going against the times, flaunting your unconventional ideas and unorthodox ways, people will think that you only want attention and that you look down upon them. They will find a way to punish you for making them feel inferior. It is far safer to blend in and nurture the common touch. Share your originality only with tolerant friends and those who are sure to appreciate your uniqueness.

How about this OP: let’s put fat people everywhere in concentration camps. Seriously dude, this has to be the dumbest fucking shit I have ever read. I’m guessing you don’t like gays or lesbians either? I have a few fat friends that are cool as shit. So they don’t like to lift weights. So they don’t like to eat right. Who fucking cares.

[quote]Mettahl wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
Mettahl wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
Mettahl wrote:
Stronghold wrote:

By not allowing fat people to use public resources funded partially by their own tax dollars, then you are saying you are ok with a government imposed morality. What if the bus system also didn’t allow large bodybuilders to ride, would you be ok with that too?

Reread his post. He is talking about fat models on the catwalk.

You’re the one who missed something if you think the entirety of his post was about fat models on the catwalk.

Reread all of these posts. My reply was to Stronghold’s comment about fat people not being able to use public resources. It makes sense, but not in this conversation. No one (unless I completely missed something, which hey, is possible) here said that fat people should be barred from using public resources. Modeling shows aren’t government services, and the rest of his post was about hating fat people, and honestly, people are allowed to hate. It isn’t usually socially acceptable to voice honest opinions, but that’s a matter of whether or not he’s okay with being disliked.

It seems you don’t have the ability to read between the lines as Stronghold(and other responding posters) did.

Reading between the lines isn’t the same as putting words in his mouth though.

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Neither is failed sarcasm.

[quote]Paste42 wrote:If everything else is the same? elaborate please… I have yet to come across that scenario in life.
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Well, waitresses in a lot of places tend to lean toward the not-a-gross-fucking-pig side of things. Don’t some places hire “entertainers” as opposed to waitresses so that they can legally discount the fatties?

SOME of what he said might be wrong if not a tad harsh… or maybe his ideas just weren’t fully fleshed out. He is not wrong for thinking that it’s terrible to push the idea that being fat is acceptable. He is also not wrong for saying he hates fat people if what he meant is that he hates the lazy, excuse-making, finger-pointing aspects of their personalities.

[quote]Paste42 wrote:
Lift or die wrote:
jtrinsey wrote:
Lift or die wrote:

I really doubt that being a your laptop, jaywalking carry that many risks. I just think being fat is a burden on society it also reduces your chances of getting a job the employer nine times out of ten will pick the more attractive person if everything else is the same. The real question is why would you want to be fat?

If everything else is the same? elaborate please… I have yet to come across that scenario in life.
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ok if things are pretty equal they have worked a few jobs here and there but one person is fat and the other is in shape and attractive

[quote]DOHCrazy wrote:
Lol.

Although you are right, and I agree with you, you have to think of it this way:

What have you gained from doing this?

You are in school to get a good grade. You are not in school to make a point or change the world. You have effectively made everyone in the class mad at you, including the sole-decider of what grade you get in this class.

I always hated kids like you in school who tried so hard to ‘be different.’[/quote]

I actually always hate kids who just take shit just for teachers just for some dumb grade. Isn’t the idea of being a T-man speaking your mind and not conforming the society being your own man and not taking shit?

[quote]Ronsauce wrote:
Paste42 wrote:If everything else is the same? elaborate please… I have yet to come across that scenario in life.

Well, waitresses in a lot of places tend to lean toward the not-a-gross-fucking-pig side of things. Don’t some places hire “entertainers” as opposed to waitresses so that they can legally discount the fatties?

MattyXL wrote:Quite frankly you are wrong and a piece of shit.

SOME of what he said might be wrong if not a tad harsh… or maybe his ideas just weren’t fully fleshed out. He is not wrong for thinking that it’s terrible to push the idea that being fat is acceptable. He is also not wrong for saying he hates fat people if what he meant is that he hates the lazy, excuse-making, finger-pointing aspects of their personalities.
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If that is what he meant then he has to say that, he didnt say that all so since he speaks in generalities, I have to take it as if he means all fat people just because their fat, and until he explains himself otherwise that is how I will take it. In no way did I articulate from that post that he was delving into a deeper topic of health and the accceptance of unhealthiness.

Continue to call it like you see it, political correctness is simply a vehicle to reduce our freedom through social pressure, opening the door for laws which inhibit the constitutionally granted right of free speech. I appreciate the fact that people who are fat have the freedom to inflict obesity on themselves. However, I draw the line at society trying to tell us that it is OK, that they are beautiful, or that there is nothing wrong with them. We’re not talking about someone who has a few extra pounds, a medical condition, a big frame, or is a pro powerlifter. We’re talking about disgusting, obese, waddling around, duel wielding cheeseburgers individuals who try to justify, make excuses, or defend their behavior.

If you are a fatass, you are not physically beautiful, it is not normal, and you are not “alright the way you are”. You are neglectful of your health, irresponsible, a drain on the healthcare system, an eyesore, an impediment to the flow of traffic, and a arrogant waste of carbon when you complain about difficulties related to your self-inflicted condition. You’re free to do as you wish, but I don’t have to like it or be nice about it. This society is so sissified that instead of taking the psychologically productive approach of punishing bad behavior, we try to excuse and accept it, which in a form, is rewarding it.

What probably shocked your peers so extensively was not your subject matter alone, but the fact that expressed individual thoughts and ideas rather than regurgitating the group think so common in the education system. Their little minds couldn’t handle the strain of hearing something so against the grain of what they have been taught. Throw on top of it the ridiculous body image that popular media throws at people your age, which probably has half your class of normal sized kids thinking that they are morbidly obese, and you have yourself a full fledged meltdown.

Now, the takeaway is this: Shock is a powerful communicative tool, but to get your point across, you will have to find a way to shock without alienating and making your audience completely tune out. You can smooth out your words without dulling the message, and since grades tend to mean scholarship money, if you are going to continue to go against the grain during the course of your assignments, you will need to learn enough discretion to keep your grades up while not selling out and leaving the status quo unchallenged at the same time. Balance in all things. Next time keep your cool, and rely completely on logic and facts rather than emotions. If your arguments are logical and factual, people will have a much harder time arguing with your or giving you poor grades than if you inject to much emotion, which tends to hide or poorly shade your logic.

This should have been your essay lol

[quote]Nate112 wrote:
Pro-Bulk wrote:

Everyone had a go at me for watching what I eat and obsessing over my body. One girl even said this “how would you feel if I chose to discuss why protein is bad for you?” WTF, I felt like slapping the bitch in the face but didn’t :frowning:

Should have punched her in the gut then you should have thrown protein powder in her face and ran.

I AM SO DISAPPOINTED.
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I am sorry man, maybe next time :frowning:

[quote]John S. wrote:
Keep on fighting the good Fight TC. I’m rooting for you.

Your in High school, fuck being Politically correct.[/quote]

Amen to that!

My essay clearly won’t be so harsh and ye in class I did come across way too harsh and saying 'hate" was a douche bag thing to do but my intentions were to highlight the high health risks involved in glamorizing obesity.

[quote]Lift or die wrote:
I actually always hate kids who just take shit just for teachers just for some dumb grade. Isn’t the idea of being a T-man speaking your mind and not conforming the society being your own man and not taking shit?[/quote]

Part of being a man (not “T-Man”, but an adult) is learning to pick and choose your battles wisely. Pissing off your teacher and embarrassing yourself in front of your classmates is not traditionally considered to be a “wise move” - especially in high school.

Part of being a man means standing up for what you believe in… when it matters. High school English class isn’t the place for you to fight for some ideal you snagged off of a website. It’s about playing the fucking game to get a good grade and make your life a little easier when it comes time to consider higher education. No one in life will EVER give a shit (in a good way, at least) that you made an ass out of yourself by belittling fat people, insulting your teacher and nearly reducing your class to tears, and it certainly won’t help strengthen your character as a person.

I’m not recommending the OP change his stance on issues, or even change his essay topic, but merely suggesting that he smarten the hell up and learn some tact.

Oh, and who the fuck uses the term “T-Man”?

[quote]Pro-Bulk wrote:
Hey guys,

A couple of days back for English class we had to choose a topic and do a 1000 word discussion on it. I chose to discuss “Why fat models should not be allowed on the cat and why it is not an effective method of fighting anorexia” I also said that fat people should not be proud of their body and should not be encouraged and should in fact be looked down upon.

My teacher and the rest of the class were left shocked most of their jaws dropped to the floor and as my teacher picked her jaw up off the floor she tried to convince not to do such a controversial topic because apparently her daughter is also obese. So I told her to stop feeding her daughter shit and toughen up. I told the class I hate fat people and that I would not choose another topic as I live in a democracy and I have the right to express my anger at fat people who think being 10 sizes too big or not being able to see your own toes is beautiful.

Everyone had a go at me for watching what I eat and obsessing over my body. One girl even said this “how would you feel if I chose to discuss why protein is bad for you?” WTF, I felt like slapping the bitch in the face but didn’t :frowning:

Tell me guys, did I do anything wrong?
(btw many people were left almost in tears after my little outburst and no one in my class is fat, that just goes to show how much we accept ‘fatism’ as our norm these days)[/quote]

HAHAHA is this for real? If so, I salute you. I keep seeing commercials for some show where some gay dude dresses fat chicks up and then has her ask people if they think shes sexy on a billboard or some shit. Meanwhile it looks like she just ran the clean-up shift at KFC.

If you’re for real, then no i don’t think you did anything wrong. If anything you proved a point that accepting mediocrity or even less is just unacceptable. I visited a relative’s girl scout ceremony the other day and 6 out of the 12 girls in the troop looked like little fledgling bowling balls. It’s sad, but it is the product of laziness and insecurity, aka stupid high-school bull shit.

As for your grade, who gives a shit? Like a previous poster said, school, esp. public school, is to keep your ass in line, and if you ever disagree with anyone else in the box, you’re a deviant. I’m proud of you boi.

I agree that hate was a bit of a strong word, but there’s plenty of fatties here in America too. Hopefully you’ve convinced some of em to get in the gym or quit gorging at 2 am whilst crying in the bathroom mirror because they cant see their balls anymore.

OP- YOU FUCKING LEGEND.

Just imagine what the world will look like in 20 years, once they let fat people on TV we are all fucked.

[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
Mettahl wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
Mettahl wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
Mettahl wrote:
Stronghold wrote:

By not allowing fat people to use public resources funded partially by their own tax dollars, then you are saying you are ok with a government imposed morality. What if the bus system also didn’t allow large bodybuilders to ride, would you be ok with that too?

Reread his post. He is talking about fat models on the catwalk.

You’re the one who missed something if you think the entirety of his post was about fat models on the catwalk.

Reread all of these posts. My reply was to Stronghold’s comment about fat people not being able to use public resources. It makes sense, but not in this conversation. No one (unless I completely missed something, which hey, is possible) here said that fat people should be barred from using public resources. Modeling shows aren’t government services, and the rest of his post was about hating fat people, and honestly, people are allowed to hate. It isn’t usually socially acceptable to voice honest opinions, but that’s a matter of whether or not he’s okay with being disliked.

It seems you don’t have the ability to read between the lines as Stronghold(and other responding posters) did.

Reading between the lines isn’t the same as putting words in his mouth though.

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Neither is failed sarcasm.[/quote]

I win because- 1. There was no attempt at sarcasm (making failed sarcasm impossible), 2. I put a pair of boobs, and you failed to one up me.

On a side note, not directed to anyone in particular, why are there so many sensitive people on this website?