No…let me correct you. You look like you are carrying more fat BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO MUSCLE TO FILL YOU OUT.
Check this…a guy carrying the exact same amount of fat as you right now…the same height…but who weighed 190lbs would look great right now.
The more muscle you carry, the more fat you can carry and still look good.
A man at 15% body fat but who weighs 260lbs will have people wishing they looked like that.
A man 15% body fat at 145lbs will look soft and pasty.
you’re Filipino? you make me ashamed to be one. god, we have enough trouble being small to begin with, not to mention all the gays and trannies overrunning the country… and then when i think it couldnt get worse, you come on here being smaller than a high school 2nd baseman and you want to get smaller.
I also really like how you think you’ll just magically pick up 15 lb of muscle when the season starts. yea, because that’s easy. yup, definitely the easiest thing I’ve ever done is to put muscle on.
I don’t think I mentioned it before but at my heaviest, I was 176lbs bulking up. I played rugby at that level and I wasn’t comfortable playing the position I was playing.
The position I play probably has to be the most mobile since it’s your job to follow the ball wherever the it goes. The difference doing that at 176lbs and 150lbs is immense, you can’t imagine. I’d rather be a bit lighter and be able to move around better to catch up rather than be a more confrontational scrum half who has a harder time moving around.
Trust me, if I could play at 180lbs without losing my mobility, I would but right now that would take me years. Which is why I’m going to cut up now and eventually gain the weight back. I can either do that or go eat like a beast again and gain lean weight while burning the fat. If you guys think that’s a better option for me without losing my mobility, then I’ll give it a try cause to be honest, I’d rather do that cause I fucking love eating.
I know where you guys are coming from and if I didn’t have rugby in mind, I would be gaining weight/strength like crazy cause trust me, I fucking hate being this light. Sometimes being heavy in rugby is benefecial in other positions but in the position I’m in, being smaller and more mobile helps a lot.
[quote]fr0IVIan wrote:
you’re Filipino? you make me ashamed to be one. god, we have enough trouble being small to begin with, not to mention all the gays and trannies overrunning the country… and then when i think it couldnt get worse, you come on here being smaller than a high school 2nd baseman and you want to get smaller.
I also really like how you think you’ll just magically pick up 15 lb of muscle when the season starts. yea, because that’s easy. yup, definitely the easiest thing I’ve ever done is to put muscle on.[/quote]
So you’re Filipino yourself and you’re talking to me like you know more about rugby lol. Gtfo.
I never said I would pick up 15lb but at least I’ll be a little bit heavier than I am now. That 15lb of muscle can wait for another 2-3 years.
[quote]Dreadlift wrote:
I don’t think I mentioned it before but at my heaviest, I was 176lbs bulking up. I played rugby at that level and I wasn’t comfortable playing the position I was playing.
The position I play probably has to be the most mobile since it’s your job to follow the ball wherever the it goes. The difference doing that at 176lbs and 150lbs is immense, you can’t imagine. I’d rather be a bit lighter and be able to move around better to catch up rather than be a more confrontational scrum half who has a harder time moving around.
Trust me, if I could play at 180lbs without losing my mobility, I would but right now that would take me years. Which is why I’m going to cut up now and eventually gain the weight back. I can either do that or go eat like a beast again and gain lean weight while burning the fat. If you guys think that’s a better option for me, then I’ll give it a try cause to be honest, I’d rather do that cause I fucking love eating.
I know where you guys are coming from and if I didn’t have rugby in mind, I would be gaining weight/strength like crazy cause trust me, I fucking hate being this light. Sometimes being heavy in rugby is benefecial in other positions but in the position I’m in, being smaller and more mobile helps a lot.[/quote]
Yeah, making sure that weight is more muscle will help quite a bit. I seriously doubt you lost 30lbs of lean body mass.
No one on here seems to know a thing about rugby. Kid stop going on about wanting to be small and mobile and never having to run the ball. I dont know what game you play in the states or canada or whatever but halfbacks should be big and strong enough to not disgrace themselves running the ball or defending against massive forwards. The three halfbacks in the all blacks world cup winning squad all weighed around 200 pounds give or take a few. Bulk up kid
[quote]Dreadlift wrote:
[quote]fr0IVIan wrote:
you’re Filipino? you make me ashamed to be one. god, we have enough trouble being small to begin with, not to mention all the gays and trannies overrunning the country… and then when i think it couldnt get worse, you come on here being smaller than a high school 2nd baseman and you want to get smaller.
I also really like how you think you’ll just magically pick up 15 lb of muscle when the season starts. yea, because that’s easy. yup, definitely the easiest thing I’ve ever done is to put muscle on.[/quote]
So you’re Filipino yourself and you’re talking to me like you know more about rugby lol. Gtfo.
I never said I would pick up 15lb but at least I’ll be a little bit heavier than I am now. That 15lb of muscle can wait for another 2-3 years.
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nope, don’t know shit about rugby. never said I did either.
what I did say was that gaining more muscle while you have to do all that conditioning work will be stupid hard and you’d best use your time wisely.
“That 15 lb of muscle can wait another 2-3 years”… you act like that’s a long time given your circumstances, as if you’ve put on 15 lb of muscle before, and that you know how long it will take and how hard it will be.
but hey, do you. diet down to 130 or so, you’ll look hawt with your shirt off.
[quote]fr0IVIan wrote:
[quote]Dreadlift wrote:
[quote]fr0IVIan wrote:
you’re Filipino? you make me ashamed to be one. god, we have enough trouble being small to begin with, not to mention all the gays and trannies overrunning the country… and then when i think it couldnt get worse, you come on here being smaller than a high school 2nd baseman and you want to get smaller.
I also really like how you think you’ll just magically pick up 15 lb of muscle when the season starts. yea, because that’s easy. yup, definitely the easiest thing I’ve ever done is to put muscle on.[/quote]
So you’re Filipino yourself and you’re talking to me like you know more about rugby lol. Gtfo.
I never said I would pick up 15lb but at least I’ll be a little bit heavier than I am now. That 15lb of muscle can wait for another 2-3 years.
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nope, don’t know shit about rugby. never said I did either.
what I did say was that gaining more muscle while you have to do all that conditioning work will be stupid hard and you’d best use your time wisely.
“That 15 lb of muscle can wait another 2-3 years”… you act like that’s a long time given your circumstances, as if you’ve put on 15 lb of muscle before, and that you know how long it will take and how hard it will be.
but hey, do you. diet down to 130 or so, you’ll look hawt with your shirt off.[/quote]
I played rugby, very well and yeah its very hard to put on weight with the practices and constant sprinting for hours everyday
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]fr0IVIan wrote:
[quote]Dreadlift wrote:
[quote]fr0IVIan wrote:
you’re Filipino? you make me ashamed to be one. god, we have enough trouble being small to begin with, not to mention all the gays and trannies overrunning the country… and then when i think it couldnt get worse, you come on here being smaller than a high school 2nd baseman and you want to get smaller.
I also really like how you think you’ll just magically pick up 15 lb of muscle when the season starts. yea, because that’s easy. yup, definitely the easiest thing I’ve ever done is to put muscle on.[/quote]
So you’re Filipino yourself and you’re talking to me like you know more about rugby lol. Gtfo.
I never said I would pick up 15lb but at least I’ll be a little bit heavier than I am now. That 15lb of muscle can wait for another 2-3 years.
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nope, don’t know shit about rugby. never said I did either.
what I did say was that gaining more muscle while you have to do all that conditioning work will be stupid hard and you’d best use your time wisely.
“That 15 lb of muscle can wait another 2-3 years”… you act like that’s a long time given your circumstances, as if you’ve put on 15 lb of muscle before, and that you know how long it will take and how hard it will be.
but hey, do you. diet down to 130 or so, you’ll look hawt with your shirt off.[/quote]
I played rugby, and yeah its very hard to put on weight with the practices and constant sprinting for hours everyday[/quote]
[quote]TomN05 wrote:
No one on here seems to know a thing about rugby. Kid stop going on about wanting to be small and mobile and never having to run the ball. I dont know what game you play in the states or canada or whatever but halfbacks should be big and strong enough to not disgrace themselves running the ball or defending against massive forwards. The three halfbacks in the all blacks world cup winning squad all weighed around 200 pounds give or take a few. Bulk up kid[/quote]
Haha, you make me laugh. I know Piri Weepu, he’s my favourite half back and you’re right, he’s about 200 pounds but were you even watching him throughout the entire tournament? It was difficult for him to play after the 60 minute mark. He was always VERY tired after that point.
Difference is, most of the heavy half-backs have a lot of height compared to me so obviously they’ll weigh much heavier.
Since you don’t know much about half backs let alone the game, let me tell you. There are 2 types of half-backs:
The smaller, more mobile half-backs like George Gregan (the best scrum half in the history of rugby) who aren’t very confrontational but rather very tactical and smart about their play. Then there are the bigger half-backs who like to carry the ball every now and then.
Hopefully you know which type I’m aiming to be.
[quote]fr0IVIan wrote:
[quote]Dreadlift wrote:
[quote]fr0IVIan wrote:
you’re Filipino? you make me ashamed to be one. god, we have enough trouble being small to begin with, not to mention all the gays and trannies overrunning the country… and then when i think it couldnt get worse, you come on here being smaller than a high school 2nd baseman and you want to get smaller.
I also really like how you think you’ll just magically pick up 15 lb of muscle when the season starts. yea, because that’s easy. yup, definitely the easiest thing I’ve ever done is to put muscle on.[/quote]
So you’re Filipino yourself and you’re talking to me like you know more about rugby lol. Gtfo.
I never said I would pick up 15lb but at least I’ll be a little bit heavier than I am now. That 15lb of muscle can wait for another 2-3 years.
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nope, don’t know shit about rugby. never said I did either.
what I did say was that gaining more muscle while you have to do all that conditioning work will be stupid hard and you’d best use your time wisely.
“That 15 lb of muscle can wait another 2-3 years”… you act like that’s a long time given your circumstances, as if you’ve put on 15 lb of muscle before, and that you know how long it will take and how hard it will be.
but hey, do you. diet down to 130 or so, you’ll look hawt with your shirt off.[/quote]
You know what, you’re right. I actually fucking hate being light and the only reason I was cutting down was because I thought that if I’d ever see my abs again, the best time would be now while I’m still young but tbh, I’d rather get heavier and stronger while keeping my stamina up.
So now here’s my new question:
Would it be possible to lose the fat around above my waist while gaining weight? When I start hardcore training of cardio 6 days a week (3 days of sprints and 3 days light/long distance cardio) and weights 3-4 days a week (focusing on main lifts so Deads, Squats, Bench and Shoulder press with some assistance exercises), how much calories would I need while trying to shed the fat around my stomach?
Oh yeh, right now for maintenance I’m eating 2k cals with little cardio only.
[quote]Dreadlift wrote:
You know what, you’re right. I actually fucking hate being light and the only reason I was cutting down was because I thought that if I’d ever see my abs again, the best time would be now while I’m still young but tbh, I’d rather get heavier and stronger while keeping my stamina up.
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Your thinking is screwed the hell up. It should be EASIER to lose body fat the more muscle you carry. I just lost several inches off my waist without doing much cardio at all. There is no way in hell that would have happened at only 150lbs.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Dreadlift wrote:
You know what, you’re right. I actually fucking hate being light and the only reason I was cutting down was because I thought that if I’d ever see my abs again, the best time would be now while I’m still young but tbh, I’d rather get heavier and stronger while keeping my stamina up.
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Your thinking is screwed the hell up. It should be EASIER to lose body fat the more muscle you carry. I just lost several inches off my waist without doing much cardio at all. There is no way in hell that would have happened at only 150lbs.[/quote]
Well that’s the thing, I’m inexperienced. Only one guy bothered to explain that and the rest would just go on about how light I am and that I need to gain weight.
[quote]Dreadlift wrote:
I eat about 2000 calories a day trying to get at least 150g of protein with that. My height and weight is 5’6/145lbs, age 19.
Current stats:
Deadlift - 365x1
Squats - 190x10
Bench - 155x5
(Deadlift is much higher than both cause I’ve only been squatting and benching for a month since I just got a bench/rack then)
My goal is to increase those numbers BUT I’m also trying to get leaner (going on vacation) and fit for rugby so I’m going to start doing cardio 6 days a week (HIIT and light cardio alternating) and lift heavy 3-4 days a week.
How much would I need to eat in order to get leaner but get stronger at the same time? I’ve been on 2k calories the past few months and I’ve only lost about 1-2lbs in about 2 months cause I have been neglecting cardio.[/quote]
@ Dreadlift
a fun thing to do is to calculate your BMR, at your age and activity level, which im guessing is high i dont think (I DONT KNOW)your even eating your maintenance ammount of calories. we did this in my human biology lecture last week and i was shocked to find that i need to eat 2,876 calories for maintenance. i weigh 75.4 kg @ 1.81m, there ae girls heavier than me in my class …
BMR equation
-your weight (kG) x 13.7
-your height (cm) x 5.0
----add these two figures together
-then add 66.5 onto that
the number you get from this process is (A)
then
-your age x 6.8 will = (B)
to find you BMR do (A) subtract (B)
then multiply this by your exercise factor.
seeing as you do weights and play rugby it will be heavy exercise.
so muliply your BMR by 1.725.
They are all giving good advice - If you were hoping to get your wieght up to be a Flanker, Inside or Outside centre, cause then you’d need to be able to pack more of a punch.
but if you gain weight, you are gonna gain fat. and your endurance will probabaly drop right out of the boat.
and thats gonna play havock with your ability to sprint around and follow the ball for the whole 80 minutes.
if your gonna take their advice, i’d make sure you include lots of CV work and lots of anaerobic work like sprinting, else you wouldnt be fit enough to play scrum half. but then you would literally have to eat like a plague of locusts to gain weight.
Also, from what i have heard about American footbal, out of the four 15 minute quarters theres usualy only an average 11 minutes of actual action. ( correct me if im wrong )
rugby on the other hand is two 40 minute halves. rugby is a stop/start game. the pauses in play are brief and when the ball is in play it is very intense like in american football, but a lot more long lasting.
i think what you lot are imagining when you think of rugby is the huge goliaths that look like konan the barbarian or trolls. these are forwards. and these are the people who do the majority of the smashing the fuck up.
watch a game of rugby and you’ll see alot of people of different sizes, and youll see some are actualy pretty “tiny”
p.s. popping your collar bone back in and carrying on playing, that is some crazy stuff!
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Dreadlift wrote:
You know what, you’re right. I actually fucking hate being light and the only reason I was cutting down was because I thought that if I’d ever see my abs again, the best time would be now while I’m still young but tbh, I’d rather get heavier and stronger while keeping my stamina up.
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Your thinking is screwed the hell up. It should be EASIER to lose body fat the more muscle you carry. I just lost several inches off my waist without doing much cardio at all. There is no way in hell that would have happened at only 150lbs.[/quote]
I said that on the first page, but people started to argue about rugby…
First time i saw this post i thought ‘no way’.
My memory of rugby (as a child) was watching grainy black and white tv on a saturday afternoon when it was too wet to be outside !
Oh nostalgia… so we are talking years and years ago.
It always seemed to be clubs like wigan, always big bruisers of blokes brought up on pints and pies !!.
What i do remember is an article in a sunday supplement maybe 15 years ago showing how rugby had changed into a much faster, dynamic and athletic game and how the players had changed from bruisers to ‘warrior athletes’.
I had to do a bit of research to get my head around the many different demands of the modern game and yes i can see that my perception of the game was much more towards the american ‘big guy’ model and this clearly isn’t the case.
Perhaps we should e looking at it from a best body composition point of view : so if where you want to be is 160lbs and that is an ideal weight to play at then surely it would be critical to make sure that the body composition is 160lbs at 10% body fat and not 160 lbs at 25% body fat.!
If so…then you could easily work out from your weight and bf now how much lean mass you need to gain and how much fat to lose–then we just come back to goal setting and training/eating that would support that plan , be that a lose body fat stage or a gain lean mass stage.