Always Good to Hear a Critique

i guess i should have posted my previous thread here instead

so, details on diet, trainings etc is here:
http://www.T-Nation.com/tmagnum/readTopic.do?id=1954144

and i will just post some pics in here, for details best if you switch to other topic

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my recent photos, year 2008:

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update end of feb 2008

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Nice transformation, you look good and as everyone on here should know by now my pet peeve with guys and training is when they don’t train their legs so…good job! Keep it up!

Great job!! Deffinatelly kudos for working legs unlike the majority big arm small leg guys!!

Dude, were you carrying most of your fat around the hips and butt? In the before pictures seems that this was the case…or just the angle. Very nice transformation. Share sopme training and nutrition, supplementation. And 6.3 is a little low in my opinion, given the transformation.

So clen and winny are the missing links in my quest for leanness. Damn.

[quote]Rexer666 wrote:
Dude, were you carrying most of your fat around the hips and butt? In the before pictures seems that this was the case…or just the angle. Very nice transformation. Share sopme training and nutrition, supplementation. And 6.3 is a little low in my opinion, given the transformation.[/quote]

most fat around hips and butt and thighs, yes

i wrote about my training and nutrition in the other topic, here is the link:

http://www.T-Nation.com/tmagnum/readTopic.do?id=1954144

[quote]GetSwole wrote:
So clen and winny are the missing links in my quest for leanness. Damn.[/quote]

regarding clen - while it seems it works (ie i can feel the effects, more strength on training, and when i cut it off i sleep half the day over), i only use very low dosages, such as 2 tablets per day, sometimes 3, and 4 is absolute max. (most people start with 5). combining it with 300-400mg caffeine and 50mg ephedrine gives solid results

as for winny… i really cant tell if it does anything at all. except make me piss every 2 hours. i don’t think i will be using it ever again.

@ venus and spooky :

i actually train legs very rarely

they grew from running, inline skating, ice skating, and bicycling

Yeah, I read that - good stuff. I think you went overboard with carbs and the sweets but who is to argue with results. Did you do anything special to lose the fat around the butt? I am taking an anti-aromatase right now and it seems to be working along with the very strict diet but any tips would be welcome.

[quote]Rexer666 wrote:
Yeah, I read that - good stuff. I think you went overboard with carbs and the sweets but who is to argue with results. Did you do anything special to lose the fat around the butt? I am taking an anti-aromatase right now and it seems to be working along with the very strict diet but any tips would be welcome.[/quote]

i have found that extreme amount of cardio along with very large amount of protein will take care of fat even in that section.

i was inline skating long distances (50-100km) every day for 2-3 months, and that got the fat down…

unfortunately, as soon as i regain my weight (every winter), it goes back where it was… then i must diet again…

only long term solution i can see is packing additional 5 kg of muscle into upper body so two halves would even out once you pack on some fat again…

or, once you get the fat down, try to never put too much of it back (ie, bulk only short periods of time)

Well, I guess I will need to do a lot of cardio. Did you feel like you lost too much muscle doing all that cardio and is it the reason you did clen and winstrol? And where are you from?

over very solid!

At first I was gonna give you an 8 for the transformation, then It dropped 2 points for needing 2 cutting agents. Than another for the ephedrine, than it dropped another point for your Zoolanderish attire. Fuk all that, if this guy was a younger man (18-21) you’d hear so much shit like take your sunglass’s off your inside!!!, What are you modeling jackets for us WTF!!!, pick your pants up homo!!!

You get a 4… homo

I gave you a 6 for your transformation. Good results. I’m not too keen on your methods, but what do I know.

Well aren?t you very self-righteous lildaddydrew. This is isn?t the rate my attire and accessories section of the web site. ITS CALLED RATE MY PHYSIQUE. Yes he does little a little ridiculous in the pictures, but they accomplish the goal; THEY SHOW HIS PHYSIQUE. While this site is a great source of information and has made my much more competent ?bodybuilder? over the past couple of years, people get on here and mimic the same criticism over and over again.

Do you feel like you?ll be more accepted in the community if you echo everyone else?s opinion? It?s getting old and it?s taking away from the usefulness of the site. I?m sure you have no problem admiring the physiques of all the Mr. O?s out there with out chiming in on what AAS Pro-hormones and cutting agents they used to attain those physiques. Give the kid a break and an honest rating without relaying on your personal fashion preferences. Some of the biggest guys in the gym wear the most ridiculous clothing on the planet. I?m sure you would give Ronnie Coleman a 10, but he wears those ridiculous pants, so on your scale he drops to a 7 and then he uses all kinds of GH so now he?s a 5, right? Get over yourself.

P.S. I don?t care what you look like or what I look like, that?s not the point of this thread.

To the OP, really nice job man. You did a better job that 99% of the people who try to undergo your type of transformation.

[quote]LilDaDDyDreW wrote:
At first I was gonna give you an 8 for the transformation, then It dropped 2 points for needing 2 cutting agents. Than another for the ephedrine, than it dropped another point for your Zoolanderish attire. Fuk all that, if this guy was a younger man (18-21) you’d hear so much shit like take your sunglass’s off your inside!!!, What are you modeling jackets for us WTF!!!, pick your pants up homo!!!

You get a 4… homo[/quote]

OMG is that my arch nemesis Hansel !?!?
How will I ever bare the humiliation of a 4 !?

Yes your right, I am self-righteous… Your right again this isn’t rate my attires/accessories so why the fuk is he wearing so many? And again you are right, I have no problem admiring the AAS physiques of Mr. Olympia’s, yet he is not one of them.

BTW I had to read your RETARDED post twice to understand your dumbass… If you weren’t such a dumbass you could have been able to read my post and see that his transformation lost it’s appeal becasue he needed three of the most powerful cutting agents on the planet to achieve it. Also if you weren’t such a dumbass you would have been able to understand that I was pointing out a double standard that young men get bashed big time for pics like his (the last 4) while no one called this older guy out.

“I?m sure you would give Ronnie Coleman a 10, but he wears those ridiculous pants, so on your scale he drops to a 7 and then he uses all kinds of GH so now he?s a 5, right? Get over yourself.”"

The OP lost ONE point for the nature of his pics, not a drop of 3 which is what you say I would do to Ronnie Colemans ridiculous pants… WTF ridiculous pants wtf 3 points… WHAT are you talking about YOUR A DUMBASS. I command you to stop jerking off to this guys pics and hit the gym. Im out!

Good job OP. I was a little surprised you mentioned that you didn’t do work your legs much except through endurance activities.

I suggest that you start squatting more. You’ll never know how huge your legs can get.

Best of luck.

P.S. I’m tired of people acting like monkeys. Chris wrote a short article about this. Monkey see monkey do. There’s clearly a big monkey here. Scratch that. SMALL monkey.

nice job op. ignore that hater. obviously hes jealous at how you achieved a great transformation. hes a bit too sensitive about peoples choice of fashion too…

you know what they say, success always comes with a group of haters, and hes just one of them.

pretty solid just got to ditch thoose clothes