I’ve only done one short cycle about 12yrs ago, so im out of the loop. I was fairly well read on the subject at the time, but now im a bit lost. Im contemplating doing an 8-12 week cycle, but I hate needles (yes, im a wuss.) I’d like to take an all oral cycle if possible. My primary goal is losing bodyfat while gaining some muscle mass. The fat loss drug of choice back in the day was clenbuterol, but what about now? What oral steroids can I take that wont stress my liver too much? Any info will be greatly appreciated…
Here are my vitals: 28yrs old, 5’8, 180, bodyfat: i’d guess around 18%; look fat shirtless, but fairly buff with a shirt on. Ive been working out on and off since I was 15, but for the last few years, its been mostly off.
first start by goin to the steroid newbie thread. then search the archives with the search engine. if it has been mostly off for the last few years i would advise a year or so natural. all orals will stress your liver. if you are afraid of needles stay away from steroids.
First cycle at 16. Sounds like you just wussed out on the hard work.You do not want to use needles because your a wuss.Well you do not need steroids.Find your nuts then stop being a wuss.
I guess I really do not know how to react to this seeing as your knowledge was obtained 12 years ago. That would have made you a whopping adolecent 16 years old at the time that you were using before. I would not recommend stacking orals for 8-12 weeks as it would be too stressfull on you liver. Alot of this will depend on you and your genetic disposition etc. You could possibly get away with a d bol only cycle but seeing as you have goals that are fighting each other you need to pick one or the other. Either cut or bulk. Bottom line is this. Lay off of the steroids until you have a good year of training under your belt again, you have dropped the body fat, you have gained alot more knowledge of todays steroid using practices, and are ready to use injectables with those orals. If you choose not to take any of this advice and decide you are going to use them anyway against all the better advice you are getting then you are then going to be added to those stats that the media so love to rant about.
THIS BITCH SOUNDS LIKE MORE OF A BITCH THAN A BITCH! BOO THIS MAN! BOOOOOOOOOOO! I agree with the junkie, this chumplestiltskin sound like the worst kinda steroid user.
Anavar isn’t all that mild in term of liver damage but either way that whole issue is somewhat over-rated. I think this guy’s safest bet if he where to do anything would be primo and hot-rox with t-dawg 2.0 and maybe some german body comp training then do a cyle or 4 of Mag-10 when he’s lean enough.
Well, judging by your posts, I guess an all oral cycle is out. Thanks for your help Tyler. Your insightful and well articulated reply was invaluable. No doubt comments from a construction worker from New Jersey (the armpit of the U.S.)…
Anyway, I actually wasnt even considering an oral cycle until I read one of the posts in the archives. I’ve been contemplating a cycle of primo & Winstrol and maybe incorporating Deca into the cycle. What dose shedule do you guys recommend? Where is the safest place to inject besides the buttocks? Ive injected into my shoulder before, but its been a while and im hesitant. As for being a wuss, I was just being self-deprecating. I dont feel the need to show my balls on an internet forum, so I wont.I just got laid, so im not in a combative mood. Thank you for your replies though…
Hey jeetbag, if Jersey is the armpit I guess that makes Florida the cock. Furthermore, I guess in addition to be too lazy/stupid to use the search engine to research your cycle, you’re also not bright enough to look at my pprofile and see I’m a student in Stockton’s PT program. Aside from that I do work construction and bartend.
I’ll be completing my masters in IT in march, so I already completed a course in “search engine 101.” BTW, im not a hick from Florida. Im a spic (cuban descent) born in Weehawken,NJ and raised in sofl. I just felt like being a dick after some douchebag repeatedly referred to me as a bitch.
Oh, thanks for your reply ru12nvme. Dont worry, I just posted here for some advice. I wasnt going to go out and shoot myself up without doing the appropriate research first. Im at a point where I just need a physical and mental boost. I used to train like mad when I was a kid, but painful rotator cuffs, job, school, etc. have made me lose some of my enthusiasm for working out. A few months of hard, dedicated, natural training would surely do the trick, but I cant seem to muster up the will anymore. Any supplements that could give me the mental boost im looking for? Im taking stacker2 now, but its not really doing the trick. Thanks for your replies…
Jeet I’ve used PD many times 2 scoops before a workout helps alot when you’re dragging ass. And speaking of ass, Cravell how about the next time I come down to sunny florida to sodomize your sister while you mother applaudes me I let you suck the snotty end of my dick till you choke, puke, and die on my clomid enhance load of cock vomit:-)
I’m starting to think Tyler is just one of the typical shy, quiet, reserved types from the tri-state area. WTF is in the water up there? I got out of there when I was 3, so I guess the brain damage was only minimal
Oh, Tyler, please stop im’ing me naked pictures of yourself. Ive already told you 3 inches is not normal for someone thats 6’2 225…I’m gonna have to cruise by my local supplement store and check out PD. Thanks guys…
