Alkaline vs Acidic Diet

So basically, eat yer fruits and veggies.

[quote]NateOrade wrote:
So basically, eat yer fruits and veggies.[/quote]

people these days are so damn braindead that they would require a multi-billion dollar study to conclude this

[quote]The body tightly regulates blood pH. Respiratory or kidney disease can cause acidocis but the quacks at this website want to reverse the cause and effect.

We need to separate the quackery from the discussion.[/quote]

Quotes not working again.

You’re right - blood is a highly buffered solution.

Can anybody tell us if the diet recommended by the ADA (american dietetic association) is flawed with respect to blood pH effects? I mean, don’t they recommend eating a lot of fruits and vegetables and isn’t that good for blood pH? How many of us actually get the recommended number a day?

Much of my skepticism on this topic comes from my perception that the benefits (negatives prevented) of an alkalizing diet are indistinguishable from those of a diet that prevents inflammation. So, the fact that many fruits and vegetables that are alkalizing are also anti-inflammatory tempts me to conclude that alkalinity is more of a coincidence than anything else.

laroyal cites prevention of degenerative diseases as well as optimal recovery. These are also often cited for benefits of fish oil.

Is fish oil alkalizing?

I am trying to figure out if this alkalizing diet idea is just the same thing as anti-inflammation described in different terms.

[quote]laroyal wrote:
The optimum pH for our blood and body tissues is about 7.2. (The use of saliva and urine test strips will show a much lower pH level due to the protein present in the solution. Saliva and urine tests from a healthy body should be about 6.6 to 6.8.)

Acidosis is a condition of over-acidity in the blood and body tissues. When the body loses its alkaline reserve, pleomorphic virus, bacteria, yeast, and fungus take over and cause degenerative diseases such as, diabetes, cancer, aids, arteriosclerosis, arthritis, osteoporosis, chronic fatigue, etc.

Acidosis may be caused by improper diet, kidney, liver, and adrenal disorders, emotional disturbances, fever, and an excess of niacin, vitamin C, and aspirin.

The body heals best when it is slightly alkaline. To keep the blood and body tissue at an optimum pH, avoid acid forming foods. Make sure your food intake is 80% alkaline and drink plenty of water.

Some alkali-forming foods include dark green and yellow vegetables, sprouted grains, legumes, seeds, nuts, essential fats (omega 3 and 6), and low sugar fruits like avocados and lemons.

You can flavor your water with 1-2 drops of lemon or peppermint oil. Lemon has the ability to counteract acidity in the body. The citric acid found in lemons is neutralized during digestion, giving off carbonates and bicarbonates of potassium and calcium, which helps maintain the alkalinity of the system.
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Good post.

But nobody talks about glutamine. As coach Thib says, glutamine in every meal (5-10 grams) can be useful, I using this protocol with my ketogenic diet.

You are fun of Glutamine (me too), what is your thought about it?

Acording to American Journal of Clinical Nutrition:

TC Welbourne
Department of Physiology, Louisiana State University College of Medicine, Shreveport 71130, USA.

An oral glutamine load was administered to nine healthy subjects to determine the effect on plasma glutamine, bicarbonate, and circulating growth hormone concentrations. Two grams glutamine were dissolved in a cola drink and ingested over a 20-min period 45 min after a light breakfast.

Forearm venous blood samples were obtained at zero time and at 30-min intervals for 90 min and compared with time controls obtained 1 wk earlier. Eight of nine subjects responded to the oral glutamine load with an increase in plasma glutamine at 30 and 60 min before returning to the control value at 90 min. Ninety minutes after the glutamine administration load both plasma bicarbonate concentration and circulating plasma growth hormone concentration were elevated.

These findings demonstrate that a surprisingly small oral glutamine load is capable of elevating alkaline reserves as well as plasma growth hormone. "

Thanks in advance

eat whole live foods (water based), fruits and veggies.

[quote]michell wrote:
But nobody talks about glutamine. As coach Thib says, glutamine in every meal (5-10 grams) can be useful, I using this protocol with my ketogenic diet.

You are fun of Glutamine (me too), what is your thought about it?

Acording to American Journal of Clinical Nutrition:

TC Welbourne
Department of Physiology, Louisiana State University College of Medicine, Shreveport 71130, USA.

An oral glutamine load was administered to nine healthy subjects to determine the effect on plasma glutamine, bicarbonate, and circulating growth hormone concentrations. Two grams glutamine were dissolved in a cola drink and ingested over a 20-min period 45 min after a light breakfast.

Forearm venous blood samples were obtained at zero time and at 30-min intervals for 90 min and compared with time controls obtained 1 wk earlier. Eight of nine subjects responded to the oral glutamine load with an increase in plasma glutamine at 30 and 60 min before returning to the control value at 90 min. Ninety minutes after the glutamine administration load both plasma bicarbonate concentration and circulating plasma growth hormone concentration were elevated.

These findings demonstrate that a surprisingly small oral glutamine load is capable of elevating alkaline reserves as well as plasma growth hormone. "

Thanks in advance
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And glutamine is present in . . . ta da! PROTEIN! My problem with the alkaline/acidity concept is that it heavily preaches plant foods instead of animal foods. But we know that the healthiest human cultures that ever existed consumed quite a bit of animal foods (some did so exclusively).

As I said above, I think the body’s pH has a lot to do with protein status and mineral status. If one is consuming adequate calcium, there is more than enough mineral to buffer excess acid. Of course, getting calcium into the blood to buffer acid would require (1) consuming calcium and (2) adequate vitamin D status (which is necessary to assimilate calcium).

Calcium is present in high quantities in dairy as well as bone broths made from boiling animal bones. A major source of vitamin D is the sun (can also supplement with cod liver oil or D3). Not surprisingly, the traditional cultures that were so healthy often ate a lot of dairy and/or bone broths, probably drank high-mineral water, and, obviously, got far more sun exposure than the average modern American.

In conclusion, if you want to maintain an alkaline state, you should:

  1. Consume adequate animal protein
  2. Consume calcium (dairy, bone broths, and/or mineral water)
  3. Get adequate vitamin D (sun exposure and/or supplements of D3 or cod liver oil)