[quote]Dedicated wrote:
If it was something as wildly outlandish as an alien force doing it maybe we are so insignificant they feel no need to vaporize the evidence. [/quote]
Okay, so why hide at all? why not land, take our shit and take off again?
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
Dedicated wrote:
If it was something as wildly outlandish as an alien force doing it maybe we are so insignificant they feel no need to vaporize the evidence.
Okay, so why hide at all? why not land, take our shit and take off again?
[/quote]
Well, if it is an alien doing it maybe they are. The cattle in question have certain organs missing (landing taking our shit and leaving). For whatever their reasons maybe, maybe that’s all they need. Also maybe to them they aren’t hiding anything purposefully but because we don’t understand it we see it that way (hide it).
Again, I don’t make any claims either way and am just expressing my thoughts when hearing about these incidents.
D
[quote]GJA_BOSTON wrote:
If I saw a stealth fighter or bomber 40 years ago, I would of thought wow, cool looking plane.
People try to apply what we know today about science/physics/the universe to the alien topic and interstellar travel. sometimes the more we know makes us realize how much we dont know. 20 years ago i was working on computers that didnt have hard drives. I had to swap out 5 inch floppy disks to load the operating system and then the word processing application. Now I am working on a quad core pc with a gig of ram and a 160 gig hard drive–who would have thought.
check out these links, it is a long interview but it is interesting.
http://www.projectcamelot.org/bob_dean_interview_transcript_1.html
http://www.projectcamelot.org/bob_dean_interview_transcript_2.html
it is an interview with Command Sergeant Major robert dean, ex military for 27 years and he
was assigned to Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe. He claims NATO has known about aliens for 50 years.
-g[/quote]
If you saw a stealth fighter 40 years ago, it would probably be in the night sky, triangular shaped with 3 lights - astonishingly mimicking many ufo reports. And what of our harrier jets that hover? Ever hear about those sightings?
Anyway, please please tell me that you’re not serious about your link. Please tell me that you engage in a bit more critical thinking than to just accept whatever written word is published. Please tell me that. Tell me you’re not serious with that link.
[quote]Richard Smoker wrote:
Vegita wrote:
Richard Smoker wrote:
Vegita wrote:
I do believe that MANY UFO sightings are weather baloons, government craft, or just atmospheric anomolies. That doesn’t mean I DON’t believe the other possibility is possible. I can imagine other entities acting exactly the way they supposedly behave, like what you just wrote, yes I can believe that is a possible reality.
Basically, I don’t assume to know the person next to me and thier intentions, especially if they are a stranger, let alone trying to decide that I KNOW or BELIEVE that I know how an alien race would behave. There very well could be more than one alien race who is interacting with our planet. What if there is some type of league of races who have put a no contact with earth rule in place? What if some races disobey those orders in a mild way by flying into our airspace, Picking up some random nobody, grabbing some animals from the surface including cattle. What if they bend the rules but don’t want the concequences of all out breaking them and landing on the lawn of the white house.
I mean seriously it took me 20 seconds to think up that possible scenario. Open your mind up a little man, you can still dream while being a mostly serious adult. Everything doesn’t have to be inside the fucking box. I kinda feel bad for you now, I mean jesus do you get pleasure out of anything in life except being a pessemistic know it all?
V
Why are you so small that you have to resort to insults? I posed a serious question to you and a serious retort. Do you always talk online in a manner that you wouldn’t dare speak in real life? Because I’m one of the few guys that will give you the opportunity.
Next, I see that my comment about believing in this “prime directive” type behavior has some (or all) underpinnings in our religous constructs that play so well to the way we are wired flew right by you - probably because you were in that 20 second rush to be an unecessary smart ass. It’s not that I don’t believe or that I think inside a box - and it’s not that I haven’t considered the possiblity - it’s that having considered the possibility and weighing that against likely explanations and likely behavior of a far far advanced race, I remain very skeptical. As if you could breach the laws of physics as we know it, and be rendered no more advanced than some privitive hunting party going to the jungle, with a need to seize life forms for study. Ya think they might be able to just scan with all that advanced technology to get what they need? That took me about 5 seconds to refute for the record.
In one breath, you propose otherwordly technology, a league of nations (planets) and then undetected, serripticious fly-bys and abductions committed without this league detecting it. And all the while, you have imposed your current wordly ethics on a race that would have to be eons advanced beyond us. We’re barely out of caves on a cosmological clock scale, and the guys that have advanced so far as to conquer the physics of our universe, are still operating with our ape like brains with all the shortcomings that go along with it - engaging in primitive manner of deceipt and study.
Yes sir, you DID think that one up in about 5 minutes didn’t you?
My insulting behavior is truthfully in jest. I’m just messin with ya, even though you are a dickbag. And yes I would say it to your face, because you have demonstrated your strict logical/rational thinking and you would not physically harm me because of any verbal abuse I might unleash upon you. You would then go to jail, and I would file a lawsuit, therefore you would make the logical and rational decision to ignore me. Which is also what I would do.
Back to the topic at hand Richard, Again with your assumptions. For all you know, humans could develop the gravity drive or some similar technology in the next 50 years. Would we as a species be any more evolved socially or emotionally? I tend to doubt it. One cannot assume just because a race discovers a technology, that they use it responsibly, or are somehow more evolved socially because of such a discovery. There that took me 1 second to refute what you just said because you are speculating as much or more than I am. BTW 1 second wins, no using half second intervals for response times.
Now on to another point you tried to make. You mentioned them having technology to “scan” what they would need, so why pick stuff up? More assumptions. If we develop a gravity drive in 50 years, that does not mean we also develop advanced scanning technology in 50 years, 100 years, 1000 years. There is no way to say they have to have one if they have the other. Maybe some alines have it and use it and remain invisible to us and maybe other races who are only slightly ahead of us on a specific technology continuum do not have that technology and break the rules set upon them to gather information and explore, much as I am sure the human race would if some pompus space federation told us not to explore. Eventualy we would probably test the waters.
Anxiously waiting for your next pessimistic reply.
V
You’re just being contrarian and that doesn’t take much effort. Like I said in my first post - mental masturbation. And by the way, I have no problem taking a charge but the way you come off, I’d have thought you’d man up. I tried to appeal to your claimed intellect, and invited you to engage in some critical thought. Somehow that has reduced you to just claiming black when I claim white. And by the way, we’ll be lucky to even understand gravity in the next 50 years.
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Whatever dood, I have no desire to go back and forth with you on this. I have already wasted too much of my time even humoring you with responses when clearly you aren’t interested in hearing anything.
V
[quote]Dedicated wrote:
Well, if it is an alien doing it maybe they are. The cattle in question have certain organs missing (landing taking our shit and leaving). For whatever their reasons maybe, maybe that’s all they need. Also maybe to them they aren’t hiding anything purposefully but because we don’t understand it we see it that way (hide it).
Again, I don’t make any claims either and am just expressing my thoughts when hearing about these incidents.
D[/quote]
Fair enough, but when you do that, you do not feel the mental gymnastics in which you engage yourself to consider it plausible v. the very small amount of critical thinking you must engage in to dismiss it without much serious consideration? And do you see the parallel to religion and the same trap and the mental gymnastics required to have “faith”? Look, I’m not dismissive of the possibility of aliens. I think alien civilizations exist. I think there is intriguing suggestions throughout history that we have been visited but I’m very dismissive of some of the stuff proposed here, like cattle mutilations. I think we are very very far away from conquering very real physical issues confronting any such travel - our very best collider, when it goes online, will still not detect many of the theoretical particles proposed by string theory and other theories. We are some very large technological leaps away from making earth shattering discoveries - one of which is how to duplicate the energy necessary to study particles of the size proposed by theory. I believe one such estimate required a collider the size of the solar system to create the necessary energies. I believe ANYTHING is possible, even permitted. I believe our ability to discover it, is very limited right now. I think the new collider will teach us quite a bit and then I think we’ll hit another wall we cannot pass - and that we will have new theories and math that will beg to be proven. To this day, we still do not have a firm grasp on the very seemingly simple concept of TIME. And as I said before, we understand something called gravity exists - or rather we understand that there is a force that behaves in a certain manner, but we do not know what is responsible and we have not mastered how. We have a theoretical particle is all. We have some very tall hurdles in front of us. I find it all very exciting - I’m not the pessimist at all. I just think great claims require great evidence. And I’m a critical thinker in all that I do and read. I’m a dreamer like many of you, but I’m geared toward critical thought at the same time.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[/quote]
Since when does Kevin Costner know about advanced physics?
Please show me all the studies you’ve conducted and your work published. Because if you don’t have any you have no business being on that mountain of a horse you’re on right now.
Let us “stupid” people discuss this in peace, man.
[quote]Vegita wrote:
Whatever dood, I have no desire to go back and forth with you on this. I have already wasted too much of my time even humoring you with responses when clearly you aren’t interested in hearing anything.
V[/quote]
Is this what I reduced you to? A “whatever dude”. Once I engaged you in a serious discussion, you take your ball and go home? You claim I’m not interested in anything? Or are you only interested in the type of discourse where you say something, and we just accept it - never challenging it for further discussion? Seriously? You wasted time all right - with your attempts at humor and aggression. Now we’re talking serious. Keep up.
[quote]Sick Rick wrote:
TheBodyGuard wrote:
Since when does Kevin Costner know about advanced physics?
Please show me all the studies you’ve conducted and your work published. Because if you don’t have any you have no business being on that mountain of a horse you’re on right now.
Let us “stupid” people discuss this in peace, man.
[/quote]
Well, you are among the stupid. Because I never claimed to be qualified to discuss it. But catching that would require that you have reading comprehension. Great post. The Kevin Costner reference was a real knee slapper - along with your avatar. Kudos to Holland! Don’t you have any culture in Holland by which to inspire your avatar? Or must you borrow ours? What? No hard times in Holland to inspire would be hip hoppers? Shouldn’t you be in school right now or doing homework?
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
And by the way, we’ll be lucky to even understand gravity in the next 50 years.
[/quote]
We won’t have to. The artificially intelligent computers we develop in the next 20 years will handle all that stuff for us.
And give the human race some credit, a lot of discoveries in the past were deemed “impossible” before some bright mind came along and proved otherwise.
[quote]Richard Smoker wrote:
Vegita wrote:
Whatever dood, I have no desire to go back and forth with you on this. I have already wasted too much of my time even humoring you with responses when clearly you aren’t interested in hearing anything.
V
Is this what I reduced you to? A “whatever dude”. Once I engaged you in a serious discussion, you take your ball and go home? You claim I’m not interested in anything? Or are you only interested in the type of discourse where you say something, and we just accept it - never challenging it for further discussion? Seriously? You wasted time all right - with your attempts at humor and aggression. Now we’re talking serious. Keep up.
[/quote]
First of all the only thing I have siad are things I think are possible. I haven’t asked you to accept it. You keep coming in and telling me that those things are unlikley or give your own “more reasonable” ideas. I haven’t asked you or anyone to accept anything I have said, they are only possibilities. The things you wrote are also possibilities. I managed to give some of my ideas without calling anyone stupid (besides you) because your first post on the thread you claimed to KNOW a few things. Then I dismantled that foolish list and got your feathers ruffled because I made YOU look like a pompus fool. Actually, you made yourself look like a pompus fool, I just pointed the sign so everyone could see and enjoy it with me. If you come in and then get run, just fucking leave, we don’t really care about you defending you intelligence. I mean how the fuck can you even defend your intelligence on a thread about THEORIES and POSSIBILITIES. No one can prove anything so your little defensive tantrum is further proving your mental abilities.
I mean was this your train of thought? "Hey here is a thread about aliens, I’m gonna show these guys how smart I am by claiming how much I know. What… I just got bitch slapped! They misunderstand, I’ll show them how smart I am by showing them how stupid they are. What! They are not accepting the more rational possibilities I have demonstrated as facts! I’ll show them, I’ll tell them the topic is over thier head and they should not even be discussing it because they couldn’t understand some of the science behind thier outlandish theories. WHAT! now they are calling me names! Etc… etc…
For real dude, your feathers got ruffled, just admit it and maybe I will think about having a serious conversation with you, Oh and apologise for your know it all enterance into this thread too.
V
[edited because I forgot to change your name to Richard Smoker in the quote part]
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
GJA_BOSTON wrote:
If I saw a stealth fighter or bomber 40 years ago, I would of thought wow, cool looking plane.
People try to apply what we know today about science/physics/the universe to the alien topic and interstellar travel. sometimes the more we know makes us realize how much we dont know. 20 years ago i was working on computers that didnt have hard drives. I had to swap out 5 inch floppy disks to load the operating system and then the word processing application. Now I am working on a quad core pc with a gig of ram and a 160 gig hard drive–who would have thought.
check out these links, it is a long interview but it is interesting.
http://www.projectcamelot.org/bob_dean_interview_transcript_1.html
http://www.projectcamelot.org/bob_dean_interview_transcript_2.html
it is an interview with Command Sergeant Major robert dean, ex military for 27 years and he
was assigned to Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe. He claims NATO has known about aliens for 50 years.
-g
If you saw a stealth fighter 40 years ago, it would probably be in the night sky, triangular shaped with 3 lights - astonishingly mimicking many ufo reports. And what of our harrier jets that hover? Ever hear about those sightings?
Anyway, please please tell me that you’re not serious about your link. Please tell me that you engage in a bit more critical thinking than to just accept whatever written word is published. Please tell me that. Tell me you’re not serious with that link.
[/quote]
He is well known and has excellent credentials.
I wrote “interesting” I didn’t say I believed it or that it was true, or that he wasn’t a nut. Because of the topic, I thought others might find it thought provoking. I apologize if I insulted your intelligence. Next time I will PM you for guidance.
[quote]GJA_BOSTON wrote:
TheBodyGuard wrote:
GJA_BOSTON wrote:
If I saw a stealth fighter or bomber 40 years ago, I would of thought wow, cool looking plane.
People try to apply what we know today about science/physics/the universe to the alien topic and interstellar travel. sometimes the more we know makes us realize how much we dont know. 20 years ago i was working on computers that didnt have hard drives. I had to swap out 5 inch floppy disks to load the operating system and then the word processing application. Now I am working on a quad core pc with a gig of ram and a 160 gig hard drive–who would have thought.
check out these links, it is a long interview but it is interesting.
http://www.projectcamelot.org/bob_dean_interview_transcript_1.html
http://www.projectcamelot.org/bob_dean_interview_transcript_2.html
it is an interview with Command Sergeant Major robert dean, ex military for 27 years and he
was assigned to Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe. He claims NATO has known about aliens for 50 years.
-g
If you saw a stealth fighter 40 years ago, it would probably be in the night sky, triangular shaped with 3 lights - astonishingly mimicking many ufo reports. And what of our harrier jets that hover? Ever hear about those sightings?
Anyway, please please tell me that you’re not serious about your link. Please tell me that you engage in a bit more critical thinking than to just accept whatever written word is published. Please tell me that. Tell me you’re not serious with that link.
He is well known and has excellent credentials.
I wrote “interesting” I didn’t say I believed it or that it was true, or that he wasn’t a nut. Because of the topic, I thought others might find it thought provoking. I apologize if I insulted your intelligence. Next time I will PM you for guidance.
[/quote]
Clearly a mistake you should have avoided. Now you are one of the “stupid ones” as well. How dare you even post a reply to his almighty. Were you on your knees when you typed your reply?
V
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
Sick Rick wrote:
TheBodyGuard wrote:
Since when does Kevin Costner know about advanced physics?
Please show me all the studies you’ve conducted and your work published. Because if you don’t have any you have no business being on that mountain of a horse you’re on right now.
Let us “stupid” people discuss this in peace, man.
Well, you are among the stupid. Because I never claimed to be qualified to discuss it. But catching that would require that you have reading comprehension. Great post. The Kevin Costner reference was a real knee slapper - along with your avatar. Kudos to Holland! Don’t you have any culture in Holland by which to inspire your avatar? Or must you borrow ours? What? No hard times in Holland to inspire would be hip hoppers? Shouldn’t you be in school right now or doing homework?
[/quote]
Your moral compass is pretty fucked up, isn’t it? Criticising avatars of guys who put up their own pictures, bitching about my nationality?
And I’m the one who’s still in school?
“Well, you are among the stupid. Because I never claimed to be qualified to discuss it.”
You sure talk like you are.
Whatever man, this thread was actually a really nice read until you came rolling in.
[quote]Kruiser wrote:
TheBodyGuard wrote:
And by the way, we’ll be lucky to even understand gravity in the next 50 years.
We won’t have to. The artificially intelligent computers we develop in the next 20 years will handle all that stuff for us.
And give the human race some credit, a lot of discoveries in the past were deemed “impossible” before some bright mind came along and proved otherwise.[/quote]
I’m not implying at all that these things are impossible. Just impossible with our current and in the near future foreseeable technology. That’s all.
[quote]Vegita wrote:
First of all the only thing I have siad are things I think are possible. I haven’t asked you to accept it. You keep coming in and telling me that those things are unlikley or give your own “more reasonable” ideas. I haven’t asked you or anyone to accept anything I have said, they are only possibilities. The things you wrote are also possibilities. I managed to give some of my ideas without calling anyone stupid (besides you) because your first post on the thread you claimed to KNOW a few things. Then I dismantled that foolish list and got your feathers ruffled because I made YOU look like a pompus fool. Actually, you made yourself look like a pompus fool, I just pointed the sign so everyone could see and enjoy it with me. If you come in and then get run, just fucking leave, we don’t really care about you defending you intelligence. I mean how the fuck can you even defend your intelligence on a thread about THEORIES and POSSIBILITIES. No one can prove anything so your little defensive tantrum is further proving your mental abilities.
I mean was this your train of thought? "Hey here is a thread about aliens, I’m gonna show these guys how smart I am by claiming how much I know. What… I just got bitch slapped! They misunderstand, I’ll show them how smart I am by showing them how stupid they are. What! They are not accepting the more rational possibilities I have demonstrated as facts! I’ll show them, I’ll tell them the topic is over thier head and they should not even be discussing it because they couldn’t understand some of the science behind thier outlandish theories. WHAT! now they are calling me names! Etc… etc…
For real dude, your feathers got ruffled, just admit it and maybe I will think about having a serious conversation with you, Oh and apologise for your know it all enterance into this thread too.
V
[edited because I forgot to change your name to Richard Smoker in the quote part][/quote]
Are you really over 30? Seriously? You have the maturity of an 18 year old. However you interpreted my initial post is your business. As far as bitch slapping, you’re confined to attempts on the internet. That’s very T-man like. Golf clap to you tough guy. Again, anytime you’re feeling your oats, we’re neighbors. I am not defending my intelligence, I am only discussing the topic. Something you seem uninterested in doing b/c you are more interested in “bitch slapping” lol people on the internet. Man, I’ve watched this place go downhill - been here since the beginning…knew the place was getting younger and younger but really, aren’t you North of 30? And this is the way you express yourself? I know you’re shy of 200 lbs., but I didn’t realize you were shy of the median 5 1/2" as well. Lighten up “dood”. You talk like this b/c you spend enough time on here that you realize you can rile up a daisy chain of like minded 16 year olds to talk meaningless shit on the internet. Tell ya what, I’ll be at the Borgata tonite playing poker. Bring some of them with you and page “Mr. Bodyguard” and introduce yourself and give me all your venom face to face.
[quote]GJA_BOSTON wrote:
He is well known and has excellent credentials.
I wrote “interesting” I didn’t say I believed it or that it was true, or that he wasn’t a nut. Because of the topic, I thought others might find it thought provoking. I apologize if I insulted your intelligence. Next time I will PM you for guidance.
[/quote]
It’s just that I thought it wasn’t worty of serious consideration…unless of course you believe his claims of “cosmic clearance” and that he has revealed secrets and avoided prosecution. That whole thing is laughable on its face. That’s not to say I’m dismissive of the idea of aliens or that they somehow even shaped religion (I find that to be fairly plausible), but of his claims in particular, I think he’s off his meds and his rocker. No offense. The way you posted it, I thought you were cosigning it.
[quote]Sick Rick wrote:
Your moral compass is pretty fucked up, isn’t it? Criticising avatars of guys who put up their own pictures, bitching about my nationality?
And I’m the one who’s still in school?
“Well, you are among the stupid. Because I never claimed to be qualified to discuss it.”
You sure talk like you are.
Whatever man, this thread was actually a really nice read until you came rolling in. [/quote]
God this is like shooting fish in a barrel. My moral compass? Huh? Your avatar is intended to represent you to the online community. You and others chose it for a reason right? So your identify is based upon a play on words for an old school rapper with a bad eye from England and the image of two hip hoppers from the US? I think that’s amusing. When exactly do you plan on making a contribution to the thread instead of being part of V’s daisy chain. Discuss the topic. What do you have to add?
[quote]Richard Smoker wrote:
Vegita wrote:
First of all the only thing I have siad are things I think are possible. I haven’t asked you to accept it. You keep coming in and telling me that those things are unlikley or give your own “more reasonable” ideas. I haven’t asked you or anyone to accept anything I have said, they are only possibilities. The things you wrote are also possibilities. I managed to give some of my ideas without calling anyone stupid (besides you) because your first post on the thread you claimed to KNOW a few things. Then I dismantled that foolish list and got your feathers ruffled because I made YOU look like a pompus fool. Actually, you made yourself look like a pompus fool, I just pointed the sign so everyone could see and enjoy it with me. If you come in and then get run, just fucking leave, we don’t really care about you defending you intelligence. I mean how the fuck can you even defend your intelligence on a thread about THEORIES and POSSIBILITIES. No one can prove anything so your little defensive tantrum is further proving your mental abilities.
I mean was this your train of thought? "Hey here is a thread about aliens, I’m gonna show these guys how smart I am by claiming how much I know. What… I just got bitch slapped! They misunderstand, I’ll show them how smart I am by showing them how stupid they are. What! They are not accepting the more rational possibilities I have demonstrated as facts! I’ll show them, I’ll tell them the topic is over thier head and they should not even be discussing it because they couldn’t understand some of the science behind thier outlandish theories. WHAT! now they are calling me names! Etc… etc…
For real dude, your feathers got ruffled, just admit it and maybe I will think about having a serious conversation with you, Oh and apologise for your know it all enterance into this thread too.
V
[edited because I forgot to change your name to Richard Smoker in the quote part]
Are you really over 30? Seriously? You have the maturity of an 18 year old. However you interpreted my initial post is your business. As far as bitch slapping, you’re confined to attempts on the internet. That’s very T-man like. Golf clap to you tough guy. Again, anytime you’re feeling your oats, we’re neighbors. I am not defending my intelligence, I am only discussing the topic. Something you seem uninterested in doing b/c you are more interested in “bitch slapping” lol people on the internet. Man, I’ve watched this place go downhill - been here since the beginning…knew the place was getting younger and younger but really, aren’t you North of 30? And this is the way you express yourself? I know you’re shy of 200 lbs., but I didn’t realize you were shy of the median 5 1/2" as well. Lighten up “dood”. You talk like this b/c you spend enough time on here that you realize you can rile up a daisy chain of like minded 16 year olds to talk meaningless shit on the internet. Tell ya what, I’ll be at the Borgata tonite playing poker. Bring some of them with you and page “Mr. Bodyguard” and introduce yourself and give me all your venom face to face.
[/quote]
Let me hit you with some of your own logic. So far in this post I have recieved 2 positive posts from other members of the forum which were of me being critical/ making fun of you in this thread. Add to that the 7 other individual posters who have been critical of you, told you to leave, etc… and no one doing that to me, except you. Now you can believe that you are in the right here and that at least 10 people here are either all 1 person using 10 different screen names. Or they are all separate people and they all got together and decided to come at you in this one specific thread. Or possibly that the 10 people are right, and you are the only offensive element in this thread. I mean by your logic, wouldn’t you accept the most likley scenario?
Also Don’t tell me I act like I’m 18 (even though I take it as a compliment), your the child who is suggesting taking an internet argument to the real world. 99% of the times that happens, the person suggesting it is getting MENTALLY beat down, so they think they can save some face by “winning” a physical altercation in real life. Wow I’m so proud of how secure you are in your own intelligence that a 30 year old who acts like he’s 18 makes you want to fight him in real life because he is shredding you on the interwebz. Keep it up, dipshit of the year is still up for grabs, A few more posts in this thread and you could secure the victory.
V
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
GJA_BOSTON wrote:
He is well known and has excellent credentials.
I wrote “interesting” I didn’t say I believed it or that it was true, or that he wasn’t a nut. Because of the topic, I thought others might find it thought provoking. I apologize if I insulted your intelligence. Next time I will PM you for guidance.
It’s just that I thought it wasn’t worty of serious consideration…unless of course you believe his claims of “cosmic clearance” and that he has revealed secrets and avoided prosecution. That whole thing is laughable on its face. That’s not to say I’m dismissive of the idea of aliens or that they somehow even shaped religion (I find that to be fairly plausible), but of his claims in particular, I think he’s off his meds and his rocker. No offense. The way you posted it, I thought you were cosigning it.
[/quote]
yes, “cosmic clearance” sounds ridiculous doesn’t it?
It is a standard high level of clearance for NATO and sharing of information between governments within the treaty. Look it up, you’ll find it referenced on many government sites.
“When a government agency or group shares information between an agency or group of other countryâ??s government they will generally employ a special classification scheme which both parties have previously agreed to honour. For example, sensitive information shared amongst NATO allies has five levels of security classification; from most to least classified, COSMIC TOP SECRET (CTS), FOCAL TOP SECRET (FTS), NATO SECRET (NS), NATO CONFIDENTIAL (NC), and NATO RESTRICTED (NR).”
as strange as things may seem, sometimes they are true. have an open mind
[quote]Richard Smoker wrote:
Man, I’ve watched this place go downhill - been here since the beginning…knew the place was getting younger and younger but really, aren’t you North of 30? And this is the way you express yourself?
[/quote]
Also I joined the site 6 months later than you did so I too have “been here since the beginning” I’ve been the same me since then and by looking at your post count you don’t post very frequently, so I’m not sure that the recent decline in the forums is my fault, it could just be because you recently decided to start posting. I’ll apply your logic to this one too and see what the rational reason is.
V