I’ve lost track of what your primary goal is at the moment. Care to remind me… if you remember?
All I can think of while reading these cardio shenanigans is “What is the goal here?” If it’s general fitness and health then you’re overdoing it. If you want to get into really good shape (insert arbitrary standard here) then make an actual plan.
For some reason, I use my resting HR as a marker for general health and fitness. If I’m doing cardio regularly then my resting HR will be around 50 or below. I’ve achieved this with CrossFit style WODs that sucked horribly and I’ve done it with three 15 minute interval sessions on an elliptical while watching TV. For me, if the goal is general health then I’m going back to the elliptical.
Haha I can, the goals haven’t changed! 250kg deadlift, 17 inch arms (flexed), and keeping a good level of conditioning.
Whether or not I’m using the right methodology or even if the goals are realistic, is all up for debate!
In terms of doing to too much I still think that 20 mins a day 4-6 times per week is reasonable…if I keep it as proper LISS.
In terms of why do it so often, it’s two fold, I’m trying to build it into some sort of daily(ish) habit, secondly my rhr looks to be a legitimate 70-80, and I know from previous experience I can get it lower, so want to try and get it to a regular 60 ASAP.
Managing fatigue is going to be important in order to achieve my top goal (the deadlift) - I’m definitely feeling despite the very short time trying it out, that the deadlift progressive ROM is going to get me moving well towards my target. The arms target is the one I’m not sure on, I’m hoping that adding a specific day will move that on. Cardio - just throwing stuff at it in short!
Alright, well you’re learning that you might need to make a change. The reason I keep mentioning doing less is that I keep seeing you beat yourself up. You miss a session or do 10 minutes so you add to the next day’s session. I see unnecessary stress here and I’m trying to encourage you to squash that.
Conditioning has an accumulative effect (like all training). I kind of view it the same as lifting weights. I’ll use my setup as an example.
Here’s what I did yesterday (done once a week):
bench 5 x 5 @ 75%
OHP 550 Set
Do you think this would be better (done every other week)?:
bench 10 x 5 @ 75%
OHP 10-100 set
You have to allow the adaptations to occur and then stimulate the body again.
Yea that’s a good point, might be a bit overzealous with trying to ingrain good habits. Will hold that in mind and keep my sessions where I can and maybe not accumulate cardio “debts”, thanks J.
On a similar thread to @Frank_C. What habits do you need engrained for those 3 goals? If you were to look at all your training through the lens of “which of my 3 goals is this moving me towards”, it might make decision making easier.
I feel reasonably happy that I’m moving towards the deadlift goal, I am going to keep my eye on the arms goals with the new dedicated arms day, and with my conditioning I havent got a fixed tangible goal, but doing something 4-6 times per week will certainly get me a lot closer to what I would feel was fit and able.
But I’m assuming since you raise the question you have other thoughts? Always open to hear them!
Not specifically, no. I guess my train of thought was have you picked a training program, then picked your goals, then tried to add extra stuff to hit those goals, rather than picking your goals and working backwards?
I picked my goals, 250kg, had picked my program (mag/ort- but then got lured by you and pwn to ROM progression, which I must say in my very brief experience feels like it’ll work.
I also just chose 531 vanilla then threw in accessories that I thought would help toward dead/arms goal and then threw some conditioning on top. Probably a good reason people employ coaches…
For sure! You’ve probably got me beat but I love a good competition, what’s your current 1rm?
Also full disclosure I’m a full on cheaty sumo puller, but I redeem myself by not going to the dark side and using straps like those awful strongman competitors!
I keep forgetting this. I genuinely don’t know if any information I’ve shared with you about ROM progression actually applies at this point. They’re 2 different lifts. I suppose, if nothing else, this can be an experiment on the subject. Not using straps would definitely be a mistake with conventional though.
They are very different movements but my feelings are right now that the ROM-P (fun accronym) will work, and work well - so it’s an interesting experiment for sure. Worst that happens I don’t progress or regress slightly, but I doubt so.
