Alex_uk: 40 years in the making

I used to minister at a church plant. Because that started at 14.00 and my church’s 11.00 service finished at 12.45-13.15 I used to skip church myself. But one day I didn’t. My wife was away with the boys and I had time.
At the church plant (which was for kids) I must have been different. The leaders and the kids both mentioned to me I was full of energy. Happier. I remember doing the reading and being filled with real passion. Where as normally it was easy to allow your self to be worn down (3 of us ministered to 20+ kids from broken homes with no parental support).
Its no coincidence. I know why. Church is like that. I leaves happy and full up. But I think it’s also a habit to go.

No more “I should”. It time for “I will”

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BtM is bit of mental training just as much as it is physical training. Good for us to be shaken out of our comfort zones, I think.

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100% true - “So this template is not easy but it is very doable” in Jim’s own words, it’s doable just got to keep digging in.

Definitely, I haven’t been comfortable training since I started - I felt that way most of the way through Dark Horse as well, but that program allowed you enough leeway to make your own movement choices and therefore I know towards the end I picked things that I favoured, still not easy ore comfortable but it’s significantly easier if you enjoy the movement. BtM gives you no choice, everything is laid out prescriptively no where to hide, perfect for really making sure you don’t wuss out.

Thanks Carl - very true, was a struggle today but I did every single rep at the weights I was supposed to and honestly the physical side wasn’t that much of a struggle it’s the mental but it’s fine I just keep going, like you say 1 day at a time and I’ll be done before I know it, and feeling at least a little bit accomplished and a few lbs heavier.

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Haha. To be honest, i’m not familiar with terms such as transubstantiation and other very heavy technical terms. I don’t even know what exactly reformed means now lol

The problem that was pointed out to me before was that he was doing a lot of mingling with the catholic church (not that it in itself is wrong), to the point of sacrificing a few important Christian doctrines (which I have a problem with).

But yeah, like I said, I haven’t really followed him close enough to really say. And I agree with you that scripture would be the final say.

Out of curiosity (sincerely not trying to start an argument), are you calvinist?

Yea that would be become potentially problematic for me, I can see wrestling with a doctrine, particularly this issue (transubstantiation - the belief that in communion the wine and bread become the physical body of Jesus) because there is a scripture that is open to that interpretation. But overall the Catholic Church is not something I could endorse, happy to discuss a doctrine/idea but there is just so much wrong with the Catholic church (starting first and foremost with the fact they hold prima scriptura not sola scriptura - those terms basically mean that they hold the Bible in high authority but not total authority, which then allows guidance from other sources and then you end up with an infallible Pope, but only when he’s sitting on the throne, and Mary as a co-redeemer, the perpetual virginity of Mary and other doctrines which run counter to the plain words in scripture).

Honestly there isn’t much need to, it’s so often an excuse to have an intellectual parlay, which really isn’t the point of gaining knowledge. If it doesn’t help you walk closer with Him then it’s superfluous.

I use the term, but first and foremost I’m a Christian, and know that the ways in which I view scripture will always be fallible, so I’ll hold fast to core doctrine and loosely to those things which aren’t always clear cut, Calvinism is at the end of the day is just a man’s attempt to systemtise the Bible, which isn’t itself that systematic, so all theology is bound to have flaws. That said I see it as a fairly accurate theology, but recognise that it doesn’t take primacy over basic humble faith. I always fall back to this: “My thoughts are nothing like your thoughts,” says the LORD. “And my ways are far beyond anything you could imagine.”

In summary I’m very much open to the fact I’m wrong and happy to be pragmatic in my faith and beliefs (my church is very strongly Armenian, but they are so alive, and work out their faith so well, that I am happy to serve alongside them).

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Agreed, agreed, agreed.

What I’ve come to learn regarding the Armenian vs Calvinist argument is that…

I’m neither.

Ok, let’s give the benefit of the doubt. Let’s say these two systems of theologies were created by people who meant well, who just wanted to present those theologies as a tool for people to understand God more. Ok, that’s good, they are lenses by which we can view the picture, but they aren’t the picture itself. Also, what about other lenses?

And yes, anything man-made will have flaws. But it doesn’t also mean they’re worthless

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Yup all very sensible, like you say flawed doesn’t mean worthless, it just means you’ve got to ensure you think and reason through the position to find the value and discard the chaff.

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In other news: morning weight 208.25, fought big time for that quarter of lb, think I pushed over 4k of cals, today will be another day of battle with the food!

@T3hPwnisher Bought double cream last night for my pre-bed shake thanks for that tip.

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Pretty sure I did that at dinner alone. Come on, keep up.

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Dam when did u get so thicc. Wait for me to catch up

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Just ran the numbers on myfitness pal, I was 4k before I even count the salted caramel & banana cupcake and 2 x Tiffin, I was probably closer to 4.5/5k (Tiffin and cupcakes were home made - the Tiffin had walnuts in it as well, but there’s no way to know how many cals were in those things).

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No waiting, you’re too far ahead on the lifts for me to slow down, if I get to 140kg I might catch you on the lifts!

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Bruh are u even tall enough for that to be possible

Height is just an illusion, just need to believe.

I’m 6’2.

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So I am I guess. Give or take an inch

I always thought you were a manlet? Your rom on sumo looks significantly less than mine… Are you just believing that you’re taller?

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No… maybe. Probably

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Piggy’s like 5 foot 5 or something.

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Couple dumb questions, because I cannot believe I am actually considering BtM as a potential next program:

-What % do you use as training max? Wendler talks about 85% as a good starting point. On paper…that looks too easy. I am no doubt wrong about that.

-How long does one run this program usually?

-Aren’t I probably too damn old for this? I feel like I am too old for this.

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Not dumb at all apart from this:

No, you’re not too old, you’ll nail it.

I went 85% TM and can confirm it isn’t too easy (if it is then I can suggest ways to make it harder!)

6 weeks, once through is enough! But if you’re a sadist I think Jim say “If you are smart, run it for 6 weeks with a lower than you think TM (85%). Assess and adjust and run it again if you feel good” I’m not wanting to run it again and I’m only half way through.

Definitely think you should run it, you’ll enjoy it.

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