Alex_uk: 40 years in the making

I read this comment before it was deleted, whilst you’ll get push back on it do feel free to post it, I don’t want you to think you can’t express those thoughts. Don’t get me wrong we’ll tell you that they’re incorrect patterns of thought, you absolutely do work hard enough, as you clearly display a lack of recovery. But I don’t want you to feel that you have to hide those thoughts - you’ll suffer in silence. I know that everyone here is rooting for you to fulfil your potential that will mean getting help, that doesn’t mean we want you to be silent in the interim (but we won’t help reinforce those feelings).

For reference you aren’t alone in that particular line of faulty thinking - I do wonder if I’m working hard enough - it usually comes from wanting results faster than my body is willing to give me them, that impatience stems from comparison to others significantly stronger than me. In reality I’m leaving everything I can on my gym floor, and giving focus on the recovery (I will admit not as much as I should be) which means eating to support my goals (gainz!) and resting (not doing stupid amounts of nepa or cardio, and being basically sedentary).

I don’t doubt for a second; you are training hard enough, I know you’re not recovering hard enough.

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Morning weight 208.5 - slightly surprising, my body doesn’t even do want to do water weight or bloat.

You legit have to eat like it’s your job on this program. Same with Deep Water. It’s why when dudes who haven’t run it before ask “can I run it twice in a row” I go “Yeah, good luck with that”.

It’s honestly the dishes that do me in. I am already so sick of washing.

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Should have deep fried it in batter mate for that pizza crunch

Yup, that’s so true - days not out yet but spent the whole day replacing previous garage door with a pvc door and window, stud wall and cladding, great job but both eating and training have taken the backseat today. I’ll be making up for lost eating from now until bed. But training - I’m going to have to try and squeeze Fridays work in Sunday (not 100% sure on this even being an option yet) then bump Monday to Tuesday and skew my next week by a day.

If that doesn’t work then Friday’s work goes Monday and the whole program goes into a weird pattern (Monday on Wednesday, Wednesday on Friday and Friday on Monday) for the rest of the program. Only 3 weeks left!

Also this tells me I’m definitely not eating enough haha - don’t you have a dishwasher?

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If I had a deep fat fryer I’d be tempted - I’d also spend most of my days (my significantly shortened days by deep frying everything) eating fried bread.

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Yup. I am always loading and unloading the damn thing, and all the pre rinsing and putting away.

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Between rinsing, loading and unloading, the time difference between washing by hand (dishwasher effectively a rack) and using a dishwasher properly isn’t that big

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I never rinse, never a problem for me. The big difference is time, no way I can thoroughly wash a dishwasher load in the time it takes to stack and empty a dishwasher.

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I have broken too many dishwashers doing this. Learned my lesson, haha.

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Morning shame - 208 (and looking slightly fatter somehow). Obviously didn’t manage to outdo poor focus by eating big for only the last quarter of the day. Today will be better.

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Love the lessons learned. The truth is that the lifting is the easy part: it only takes an hour. Recovery is always harder.

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What have you eaten so far today?

Fixed that for you

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Today - overnight oats (oats soaked in yogurt with raspberries) and 60g whey. 2 X toast and 80g cheese (with butter) 30g of whey & a scoop (200cals) of a meal replacement shake (purely for flavour and to use it up the Mrs had it and hated the taste, goes well with unflavoured whey for me). To follow is a large roast dinner with potatoes that are drowned in oil and a pudding, then another meal after that, which might just be a repeat of my second meal of the day.

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Honey in the oats would be a quick kill for some extra cals.

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I’ve also heard that chocolate pairs well with raspberries :wink:

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Fixed

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My wife makes these. They look lush. But I cant do milk.
Honey chocolate maple syrup all make it into hers.

I’m going to be fair - I have no other advice on gaining weight. I find that pretty easy. I could eat myself obese on nothing but home made stir fry, chilli, and beans&cheese on toast.